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1 minute ago, ya_boi_j said:

I think Vicks biggest downfall as a passer was that they tried to utilize his deep ball too much without realizing the **** wasn't working efficiently. Had they call mostly short passes for him as they do with Lamar and allow the receivers to make plays, he would have had more success

He biggest downfall was he didn't take his craft seriously.  The west coast offensive was a good fit for Vick but he was more interested in off field entertainment than reaching his full potential.  

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Just now, insight said:

He biggest downfall was he didn't take his craft seriously.  The west coast offensive was a good fit for Vick but he was more interested in off field entertainment than reaching his full potential.  

We all know that. But we're talking strictly football

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1 minute ago, AUTiger7222 said:

Remember when people said Matt Ryan took too many sacks and doesn't throw it away enough? You mean like that sack Jackson just took?

Ryan does. Just because Jackson did the same thing there doesn’t mean Ryan doesn’t. 

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Just now, fuego said:

Ryan does. Just because Jackson did the same thing there doesn’t mean Ryan doesn’t. 

Agree. The narrative should have been that having a mobile QB doesn’t mean that sacks like that never happen...because every time Ryan took the sack that’s where the convo went. 

it’s just too bad everything come back to Ryan...good or bad.

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Just now, fuego said:

Ryan does. Just because Jackson did the same thing there doesn’t mean Ryan doesn’t. 

Where did I say Ryan doesn't? The point is Matt Ryan isn't the only QB that does all these things that TATF swears he's the only one that does and having a "mobile" QB doesn't automatically prevent that from happening. That's the point.

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3 minutes ago, Sidecar Falcon said:

Vick would have had to learn how to put some touch on the ball. He used to laser it way too much. 

That was a product of not working on his craft. Brees, Brady, Manning, Rodgers and even Ryan constantly works with their receivers to develop timing etc Vick was the last one in the facility and the first one to leave. 

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1 minute ago, Mr.11 said:

It wasn't a broken play. Dude ran as soon as he finished his drop because he read (correctly so) that he had a lane to run for a lot of yards.

But you can't reliably win games just by doing that, because teams (especially in the playoffs) tighten up on defense. If the Ravens wanna win then Lamar is gonna need to shape up as a passers, and the Ravens need to work a game plan allowing him to do so.

In other words, lots of quick passes. Lamar isn't good enough to challenge a defense down field consistently. He is good enough to work the short to intermediate range and stress a defense horizontally rushing and passing.

We'll see.

The play broke down because no WRs were open. He recognized this and made a play. He had ample enough time to pass. He was able turn nothing into something.

No one is stating whether you can consistently win games like that. The rebuttal was to a comment downplaying mobility. Not to game plan or execution.

Lamar hasn’t grown as a passer. He needs to go through his reads more consistently. Roman needs to work with him and really instill some of those basics into him. 

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Just now, Snafu said:

Dude, I like you, but it's getting old.

How do you think the vast majority of the people on this board feel when Ryan gets trashed consistency for every bad thing that happens and that having a "mobile" QB would prevent all this stuff from happening? Having threads routinely get derailed and numerous new threads pop up during every game. It got old 10 years ago!

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