QBat3 108 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 If he can fix our run game I am all for it. nomak 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CraigSmackDaddy 2,076 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 I responded in the Todd Bowles thread today that I’d rather have Raheem than Todd especially if he brings Mike McDaniels on as his OC and have thought the same thing about someone scooping him up as a HC in a year or two. With that said... I’d be cool with hiring him as a HC. I’d rather have him than than Bienemy... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.11 8,354 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 4 hours ago, Falcons Fan MVP said: You can always promote Mike McDaniel to head coach and demote or fire Raheem Morris like we probably should have done with Kyle and Dan Quinn. Dude that has never happened and probably will never happen in the history of pro sports. Does ethics mean anything to you? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Em_Jae20 275 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 I wouldn't bre opposed to this idea, like any other coach you'd like to know who he'd bring in as his staff and its very hard to discern (as fans) if a guy is head coach material. Can he managed egos, coaching a team and not just calling plays? And again (as fans) we don't know how much of these running games performing very well has to do with him Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Knight of God 53,823 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 I dont care about his playcalling. Can he lead? That's what I need to know. If not then we miss the point of HEAD coach. JDaveG, TheTrue7, etherdome and 4 others 5 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
newa6eoutlw 57 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Agreed 1000% Quote Link to post Share on other sites
etherdome 6,485 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 16 hours ago, marvinthemartian said: If we crucified this guy for the way he looks Then this guy wouldn’t stand a chance OK, it's early January, but this may be the post of the year! marvinthemartian 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marvinthemartian 5,395 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 18 hours ago, Macintez said: Wow I never knew what he looked like lol Lol see what living in San Francisco for a couple of years will do for you? He looked pretty normal when he lived here lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
k-train 8,911 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 14 hours ago, Knight of God said: I dont care about his playcalling. Can he lead? That's what I need to know. If not then we miss the point of HEAD coach. This board's fascination with play calling is so over the top it makes me think that without a doubt, if this decision was taking place 20 years ago the majority would've chosen the hotshot offensive genius of the moment, Mike Martz, over the retread Bill Belichick. AUTiger7222, JDaveG, Kaptain Krazy and 2 others 3 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Knight of God 53,823 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 hour ago, k-train said: This board's fascination with play calling is so over the top it makes me think that without a doubt, if this decision was taking place 20 years ago the majority would've chosen the hotshot offensive genius of the moment, Mike Martz, over the retread Bill Belichick. Facts JDaveG 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PriMeTiiMe 7,899 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 hour ago, k-train said: This board's fascination with play calling is so over the top it makes me think that without a doubt, if this decision was taking place 20 years ago the majority would've chosen the hotshot offensive genius of the moment, Mike Martz, over the retread Bill Belichick. Do I get Brady as a package deal or nah? 👀 k-train 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
k-train 8,911 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 6 minutes ago, PriMeTiiMe said: Do I get Brady as a package deal or nah? 👀 You get the ability to see something in a 6th rounder no one else did Kaptain Krazy and JDaveG 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AUTiger7222 7,664 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 On 1/7/2021 at 12:35 PM, JDaveG said: McDaniel is going to get punched in the locker room when someone says a cliche like "leave it all on the field" and he says "well akshually........" Is that a Elmer Fudd or Lou Holtz reference? JDaveG 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Voice of Reason 761 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 On 1/7/2021 at 8:47 PM, Knight of God said: I dont care about his playcalling. Can he lead? That's what I need to know. If not then we miss the point of HEAD coach. It’s not an “either / or” choice. Yes, the new HC needs to lead. But if it’s an offensive choice, he needs to be able to call a good game too so that we stop with this merry go round of play callers for our offense. Being a leader without the ability to call good plays gets us Dan Quinn. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Knight of God 53,823 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 53 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said: It’s not an “either / or” choice. Yes, the new HC needs to lead. But if it’s an offensive choice, he needs to be able to call a good game too so that we stop with this merry go round of play callers for our offense. Being a leader without the ability to call good plays gets us Dan Quinn. Dan Quinn could call plays, was not a leader. More like a best buddy. PapaJoe 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PapaJoe 3,233 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 3 hours ago, Knight of God said: Dan Quinn could call plays (not that he was good at it mind you), was not a leader. More like a best buddy (aka*wing man). fixed./ marvinthemartian and Knight of God 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Voice of Reason 761 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 7 hours ago, Knight of God said: Dan Quinn could call plays, was not a leader. More like a best buddy. I respectfully disagree. Dan was a pretty good leader. He even rallied the troops last year to ultimately save his and TDs jobs. It was his ineptitude as a coach and lack of fundamentals as a teacher that led to his demise. But his team supported him as they would any good leader. OK, that’s it. I’m done complimenting DQ. Was never and a fan of his from the start. I just don’t think leadership qualities were where he fell short. Smiler11 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Knight of God 53,823 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Just now, Voice of Reason said: I respectfully disagree. Dan was a pretty good leader. He even rallied the troops last year to ultimately save his and TDs jobs. It was his ineptitude as a coach and lack of fundamentals as a teacher that led to his demise. But his team supported him as they would any good leader. OK, that’s it. I’m done complimenting DQ. Was never and a fan of his from the start. I just don’t think leadership qualities were where he fell short. He was a poor leader. Just because people like you and will work for you, it doesnt mean that you can lead. The two are constantly confused in life. People can follow, but can you lead? He was bad at it. Herr Doktor and 1989Fan 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Voice of Reason 761 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 And to my original point, I don’t think those calling for a good play caller are suggesting we do this at the cost of having a good leader. That just gets us back to Petrino. But many feel this team made the mistake in purposely and admittingly made the decision to build its roster around the strengths of its offense, but failed to continue this commitment when it came to the coaching staff. They, too, should have been molded around the offensive strength of this team if that was the decision they were making. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Voice of Reason 761 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 5 minutes ago, Knight of God said: He was a poor leader. Just because people like you and will work for you, it doesnt mean that you can lead. The two are constantly confused in life. People can follow, but can you lead? He was bad at it. I’ll agree to disagree. Not about being liked, but if you can make men work for you, you’re leading them. Now you may not be leading them to where they need to go, but that’s not what we’re discussing. You want a coach that can lead. We all want a coach that can lead, but we want that “leader” to be headed the right way and make the right decisions. DQ could lead. He just didn’t know what he needed to guide us towards. Ugh, again, agree to disagree so I can quit talking good about DQ. 😅 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Knight of God 53,823 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Just now, Voice of Reason said: I’ll agree to disagree. Not about being liked, but if you can make men work for you, you’re leading them. Now you may not be leading them to where they need to go, but that’s not what we’re discussing. You want a coach that can lead. We all want a coach that can lead, but we want that “leader” to be headed the right way and make the right decisions. DQ could lead. He just didn’t know what he needed to guide us towards. Ugh, again, agree to disagree so I can quit talking good about DQ. 😅 If you lead people to failure, you're not a very good leader. You suck at it and they are only following a title at that point. He could call defensive plays...was mediocre...but he could. I've listen to ex Falcons saying he was a nice guy, but all he had was words and quotes. 1989Fan and HASHBROWN3 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Smiler11 6,256 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 34 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said: And to my original point, I don’t think those calling for a good play caller are suggesting we do this at the cost of having a good leader. That just gets us back to Petrino. But many feel this team made the mistake in purposely and admittingly made the decision to build its roster around the strengths of its offense, but failed to continue this commitment when it came to the coaching staff. They, too, should have been molded around the offensive strength of this team if that was the decision they were making. Any guy who has made it to the NFL as a coordinator has leadership qualities. Dan Quinn was a great leader in my opinion, you only have to look at the Brotherhood culture DQ instilled here. Kyle Shanahan raves about DQ's leadership abilities. Raheem is good leader, Ulbrich too, but leadership alone won't guarantee success. You need more than that. Whilst we have a great culture off the field, it hasn't translated to an identity on it and that's on the coaching (X&O's) not due to leadership issues. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HASHBROWN3 17,754 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Thanks for posting this OP. I enjoyed this review by Brian Baldinger as much as anything I’ve watched in some time. Then again, I quite enjoy Baldy most always as it is. I am not as worried about a coach’s personality as much as I am his brilliance at scheming, strategy & ability to think & adjust. We saw how personalities work without the brilliance while DQ was here. Men will follow success & know-how. Dirk Koetter is incapable of implementing what we see in this video & our team suffered because of it. Our team will only be as good as whatever brilliant minds we choose to put in place in Atlanta. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Knight of God 53,823 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Point blank. All coaches know their Xs and Os. You dont want your HC to necessarily be the play caller, but I think...maybe...i understand what you're all saying. I do know that I dont like the same brand of football most of this fanbase seems to enjoy, but we all want to win. I can say that much. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Herr Doktor 8,292 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 For me, leading is motivating people to follow you to a vision you have. Leadership without vision is nothing more than being a bro. That was Quinn's problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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