Atl Falcon 4,133 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 The bottom line with this article = TROFFED Draft your QB who will define the GM HC team’s long term success. Got to move on to the future. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Return of the Gaucho 2,214 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 I just don't get why a rebuild must start immediately with a QB? The benefit of a young QB can be seen around the league, and it is primarily that a good (not even great) young QB on a cost-controlled rookie deal can be one to get you to the Super Bowl or deep in the playoffs. If the cap issues and talent/scheme rebuild will take 2 or 3 years to sort out, why draft a QB now that will learn and spend 3 years on a depleted roster with no hope, then have 2 years to win it all before costing 40 million a year and making it more difficult each and every year after that? I would rather take 2021 and 2022 and sort out the cap-space and begin to rebuild the roster for scheme. Shore up the lines, the LBs and secondary then look to add a QB next year or the year after for the long term success. By then, the cap should be helpful, there should be more talent, and a good young QB in the right system could have Build the lines now, get the scheme set in place and put in the surrounding pieces, then get a QB and RB when you are a bit closer to the window. And lets face it, if this is a rebuild to the level it needs to be, we will be picking at the top of the draft next year to, or Matt Ryan will find his form again and we won't need a QB. Who knows... Herr Doktor 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconsIn2012 35,705 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 1st Off: the fact McKay and Smith are bed buddies is no bueno. Seriously. Not sure why McKay has been given a complete pass Secondly: Our cap situation is the result of several consecutive years of TD restructuring our top 3-4 contracts. We were borrowing from Peter to feed Paul. And Peter is at the front door screaming “the rents due MF’ers.” We were never going to be successful with 78% of our cap going to just 6 players. That’s unheard of. No team has ever made the playoffs when 65% or more of their cap goes to their top 10 contracts Hopefully the new regime will learn from TD’s mistake. wnyfalconfan 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
takeitdown 4,211 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Ryan, at worst, is more like Alex Smith in Kansas City than like Chris Redman of the 07/08 Falcons. You're paying the money anyway. And you have a QB who can put up 4500 yards, 30 TDs, 10-15 INTs any year. So build the line, build the D, build the run game, make clever schemes. Then in 2 years, when you can move on without cap crippling...you see how your team is and move on if needed. JDaveG and wnyfalconfan 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ADAMSVILLE GYM 5,233 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Ok!! Y'all win. Fukc a QB. Daft O Line in this era. After all, we are a QB power house frachise! Joey Harrington Byron Leftwitch Chris Redmond Doug Johnson Mike Vick Billly Joe Tolliver Wade Wilson Tony Graziani Chris Miller Steve Dills Eric Kramer Scott Campbell Jeff Van Raaphorst Dave Archer Turk Schonert Mike Meroski Yeah, just wait around until you find your QB. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kenn.junior 901 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 12 hours ago, FentayeJones said: Picking 4 overall should be easy. Just stack your 1st 4 guys up and whichever one come when your on the clock, that's your pick. ok but what if lets say lawrence, fields and sewell are gone top 3 now you have wilson, parson,and sertain who do you go? what if both parson and sertain are both high on your board for each position but wilson is one the QBs you dont mind taking how do you know which one is the right one to pick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kenn.junior 901 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 7 hours ago, ADAMSVILLE GYM said: Ok!! Y'all win. Fukc a QB. Daft O Line in this era. After all, we are a QB power house frachise! Joey Harrington Byron Leftwitch Chris Redmond Doug Johnson Mike Vick Billly Joe Tolliver Wade Wilson Tony Graziani Chris Miller Steve Dills Eric Kramer Scott Campbell Jeff Van Raaphorst Dave Archer Turk Schonert Mike Meroski Yeah, just wait around until you find your QB. When did we have deadpool as a QB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lju713 1,406 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 13 hours ago, JDaveG said: The annoying thing is the whole "gotta get a QB" thing. It isn't that you can't or shouldn't take one. It's more that if they don't see their guy at 4, why take someone who isn't? That's Dimi-ball. He always reached for perceived need. If the QB isn't there at 4, pass and get a better player or trade down. Get your QB another year when he is there. Because there is always a QB taken somewhere in the middle of the first who ends up being better than some of the guys at the top of the draft. Mahomes being the pre-eminent example, but there are others too. I want a coach and GM who are confident enough to build a complete team with the best players, not guys who think we have to get this or that position to build around. We may not have another year where our QB is there. You gotta get it while the getting is good. It may not be s QB rich draft like this for a while. Its EASIER to find the other skill position...not QB. He gets the ball every offensive play at the beginning of the play so that cant just be anybody Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Killing Floor 1,004 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 (edited) Let’s agree that Ryan is infallible but let’s also agree that he won’t improve year over year. So eventually time will catch up. Only way to pick from a pool of QBs this good is to finish this badly. Right? So it’s time to prepare for the next instead of coasting. I’d rather play Ryan with a next potential starter ‘in tow’ to mature than wait until we’re out of options or worse. We have a rare opportunity now. Our backup situation is thin and wouldn’t sweep a season if God forbid he had to step in. Is that a good option? I guess what I’m saying is don’t Falcon the draft. Who ever is our GM has a once in a career shot at this. Edited January 7 by Killing Floor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Herr Doktor 8,324 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 My guess is the new regime will play it safe. A QB at 4 is not crazy, neither is trading down for more picks and still getting a QB. It depends on how management, and especially the new faces view our roster. In all honesty, we cannot lose at 4. Of course, the butt hurt is going to be nuts here anyway after the draft. Everyone agrees that we need to do two things. Plan for the future while still playing to win. You do that with heady drafts and knowing when to cut bait. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDaveG 43,517 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 1 hour ago, lju713 said: We may not have another year where our QB is there. You gotta get it while the getting is good. It may not be s QB rich draft like this for a while. Its EASIER to find the other skill position...not QB. He gets the ball every offensive play at the beginning of the play so that cant just be anybody QBs are always there. Reaching for a perceived need if he isn't your guy is precisely how we ended up with the depleted roster and cap problems we have today. Herr Doktor 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FentayeJones 23,710 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 1 hour ago, kenn.junior said: ok but what if lets say lawrence, fields and sewell are gone top 3 now you have wilson, parson,and sertain who do you go? what if both parson and sertain are both high on your board for each position but wilson is one the QBs you dont mind taking how do you know which one is the right one to pick You trust your evaluation and pick the highest player on your board. JDaveG and Herr Doktor 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tmodel66 384 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Kind of hard to follow their sage opinions when Schultz thinks Sewell plays for Ohio State. Sewell plays for Oregon and opted out this season. https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29832015/oregon-penei-sewell-espn-no-2-rated-nfl-draft-prospect-opts-season blizzard_falcon 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins 2,034 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 13 hours ago, Return of the Gaucho said: If the cap issues and talent/scheme rebuild will take 2 or 3 years to sort out, why draft a QB now that will learn and spend 3 years on a depleted roster with no hope, then have 2 years to win it all before costing 40 million a year and making it more difficult each and every year after that? Only because it is hard to predict which college player will be a great franchise QB. So you have to allow for the possibility of busts and mediocre choices. Meaning, in order to avoid a decade-long QB famine, you have to invest in a replacement QB early, and you likely need to invest more than one pick there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vandy 39,761 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 15 hours ago, JDaveG said: I’m saying TD reached for need. Very true. It was the main thing TD did which drove me crazy. Instead of letting draft come to him, he would often panic by either trading up or reaching...often both. JDaveG 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blizzard_falcon 2,446 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Michael Lombardi is one of the dumbest NFL pundits there is Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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