PuppyMonster 315 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 minute ago, Ergo Proxy said: I’d argue no team wins at all those areas. Maybe Chargers are favorite with Herbert for location. Rest is a crap shoot. JAX sucks. I agree. I think it is a bit of a crap shoot this year. You do hear over and over again that Blank and McKay are super respected in the "circles". I think it also looks good that our coaches and GMs definitely get a fair shake. So I like to think that helps. Ergo Proxy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GrimeyKidd 1,455 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 48 minutes ago, Herr Doktor said: How it should be he never said with which pick. I find it interesting they mentioned they dont like being this high. With 25 spots to fill trading down might be the option Herr Doktor 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A-TowN.- 5,467 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 12 minutes ago, PuppyMonster said: It's been rumored that we are looking for offensive. I wonder how much truth is in that statement. Feels like something they probably wouldn't reveal simply to avoid offending potential hires. They said they were fixated on getting an offensive minded head coach in 2007 and that’s how they ended up with Petrino. JDaveG 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1989Fan 16,169 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 6 minutes ago, A-TowN.- said: Let’s remember though, just because they are touted as the best candidates by the media doesn’t make it true. If we don’t get the “top guys”, we still have a chance to get our match. Frank Reich wasn’t the top choice for the Colts. Only after Josh McDaniels backed out did they go for Reich, and that has turned out well for them. Some of the best coaches come out of no where. Tomlin was the last of 6 or so interviews for the Pittsburgh job and that has been fantastic for them. I think it’s more important we take our time and evaluate these guys rather than rush into it or just go with the hot name. Quinn was the hot name at the time and he turned out horribly. This is the reply to read right here...and on the flip side, Quinn was THE hot coach when we hired him. We interviewed him and let all other candidates go elsewhere because we were zeroed in on the hot coach. How did that work out? It’s a marathon, not a sprint...do the proper due diligence and get it right this time! And leave Korn- Ferry out of this ****...we aren’t hiring a director of sales for a Fortune 500 company. AUTiger7222, wnyfalconfan, Herr Doktor and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ergo Proxy 26,135 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 minute ago, PuppyMonster said: I agree. I think it is a bit of a crap shoot this year. You do hear over and over again that Blank and McKay are super respected in the "circles". I think it also looks good that our coaches and GMs definitely get a fair shake. So I like to think that helps. Great point. PuppyMonster and Herr Doktor 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ergo Proxy 26,135 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Just now, 1989Fan said: This is the reply to read right here...and on the flip side, Quinn was THE hot coach when we hired him. We interviewed him and let all other candidates go elsewhere because we were zeroed in on the hot coach. How did that work out? It’s a marathon, not a sprint. Wasn’t Quinn the most successful of 2015 hires ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Snafu 7,047 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 minute ago, A-TowN.- said: They said they were fixated on getting an offensive minded head coach in 2007 and that’s how they ended up with Petrino. Yea, it was interesting to hear McKay take all the blame on that. Never knew that. Herr Doktor and A-TowN.- 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1989Fan 16,169 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 2 minutes ago, Ergo Proxy said: Wasn’t Quinn the most successful of 2015 hires ? That I do not know. All I know is he wasn’t successful enough, and his success was tethered to Shanahan. The team was never the same without him, and he tried to make every OC after him a clone, which failed miserably. Herr Doktor and Ergo Proxy 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GrimeyKidd 1,455 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 30 minutes ago, Ergo Proxy said: Interesting how priority 1 is defense. Ergo Proxy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PointSwayzee 835 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 (edited) 10 minutes ago, falcons007 said: Right, it’s not as sexy as blowing up the entire team with new QB in Madden. This team is 8-9 win team with right coach.m even with the same team in the 2020. OK then explain what the point of fielding that team? Seriously, your cool with a team that goes 8-8 or 9-7 next year(ceiling). Rather just start over, instead of trying to wedge the window open when it just makes no sense. a .500 team by in large is the worst record in all of football and that what we now aspire to at this point. Matt Ryan or Julio Jones will never win a SB in Atlanta. That ship sailrd now 4 years ago. Edited January 4 by PointSwayzee Godzilla1985 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francis York Morgan 25,634 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 10 minutes ago, A-TowN.- said: Let’s remember though, just because they are touted as the best candidates by the media doesn’t make it true. If we don’t get the “top guys”, we still have a chance to get our match. Frank Reich wasn’t the top choice for the Colts. Only after Josh McDaniels backed out did they go for Reich, and that has turned out well for them. Some of the best coaches come out of no where. Tomlin was the last of 6 or so interviews for the Pittsburgh job and that has been fantastic for them. I think it’s more important we take our time and evaluate these guys rather than rush into it or just go with the hot name. Quinn was the hot name at the time and he turned out horribly. This x100000 JDaveG, A-TowN.-, Godzilla1985 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A-TowN.- 5,467 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 2 minutes ago, 1989Fan said: This is the reply to read right here...and on the flip side, Quinn was THE hot coach when we hired him. We interviewed him and let all other candidates go elsewhere because we were zeroed in on the hot coach. How did that work out? It’s a marathon, not a sprint. Exactly man. I think all of us here were really on the Quinn or nothing train, and it seems the FO was too. They went for the hot name and got burned 100%. I am no expert in hiring head coaches, but we need someone who truly understands X’s and O’s, is a real detail oriented leader, and most importantly, loves football and will make any adjustments necessary to stay on top of the game. 1989Fan, red falcon, DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falconsd56 26,646 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 9 minutes ago, Ergo Proxy said: Wasn’t Quinn the most successful of 2015 hires ? Think so. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 24,956 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 3 minutes ago, PointSwayzee said: OK then explain what the point of fielding that team? Seriously, your cool with a team that goes 8-8 or 9-7 next year(ceiling). Rather just start over, instead of trying to wedge the window open when it just makes no sense. a .500 team by in large is the worst record in all of football and that what we now aspire to at this point. Matt Ryan or Julio Jones will never win a SB in Atlanta. That ship sailrd now 4 years ago. I didn’t say any of it. You made it all up. PuppyMonster 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FentayeJones 23,743 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 7 minutes ago, Ergo Proxy said: Wasn’t Quinn the most successful of 2015 hires ? Kubiak was hired in 2015 and won a SB in his first year. Godzilla1985 and Ergo Proxy 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falconcheff 5,571 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 hour ago, Refried Beans said: Blank- This is not a game of patience this is a game of results. And someone one twitter replied- coming form the owner who has kept a failed GM for 20 years with poor results. Pretty funny. Listening too and watching twitter same time pretty funny. Twitter knows absolutely nothing...that "failed GM" put together a playoff roster in his first year for a team that hadn't been to the playoffs in four years, went to the NFCCG in his fourth year, the Super Bowl in his 8th year, and was NFL Executive of the Year twice... Herr Doktor, RedandBlack4ever, FA91 and 4 others 3 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PointSwayzee 835 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 minute ago, falcons007 said: I didn’t say any of it. You made it all up. You said if we got a good coach in here this is an 8-8 or 9-7 team, even with the same team. About right? You think big roster changes are coming if we are trying to pry this "competition" window open? I did say that Ryan and Julio would not win a SB in Atlanta, so yeah I guess I did make that up(but check back with me on that in a few years) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Monolith2001 5,058 Posted January 4 Author Share Posted January 4 8 minutes ago, Ergo Proxy said: I’d argue no team wins at all those areas. Maybe Chargers are favorite with Herbert for location. Rest is a crap shoot. JAX sucks. Completely agree no team is perfect. I am probably thinking about these jobs in terms of the kind of guys who chase jobs like these. Jax has a ton of cap and a team that more or less needs to be built in the image of the coach...desirable imo. LA has good talent and good amount of cap. Texans job will be a good for an OC coach to build on. I obviously think Atlanta is the spot personally but I think that dispassionate folk might see us 3 or 4 on that list. Ergo Proxy and RedandBlack4ever 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 24,956 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Just now, PointSwayzee said: You said if we got a good coach in here this is an 8-8 or 9-7 team, even with the same team. About right? You think big roster changes are coming if we are trying to pry this "competition" window open? I did say that Ryan and Julio would not win a SB in Atlanta, so yeah I guess I did make that up(but check back with me on that in a few years) Reading comprehension and reading with context is not your friend. You are too emotional about Ryan and Julio. HASHBROWN3, RedandBlack4ever, AUTiger7222 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
coastiemike 3,444 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 minute ago, PointSwayzee said: You said if we got a good coach in here this is an 8-8 or 9-7 team, even with the same team. About right? You think big roster changes are coming if we are trying to pry this "competition" window open? I did say that Ryan and Julio would not win a SB in Atlanta, so yeah I guess I did make that up(but check back with me on that in a few years) Which alt should we check back with? KRUNKuno, AUTiger7222, Herr Doktor and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poutlipper 1,209 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 21 minutes ago, coastiemike said: Which alt should we check back with? That's what I was thinking. Same talk track as 3-4 accounts. Ergo Proxy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fernando C. 1,191 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 hour ago, Knight of God said: He said he was part of the problem First step to correct a problem is identify it... RedandBlack4ever, Ergo Proxy and Knight of God 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fernando C. 1,191 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 hour ago, Ergo Proxy said: Defense and Run GAME... YEAHHHHH just hope they get it done... GrimeyKidd, AUTiger7222, Ergo Proxy and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PHALCONABERNATHY 2,231 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 3 minutes ago, Fernando C. said: Defense and Run GAME... YEAHHHHH just hope they get it done... So...basically no Fields. That’s disappointing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KRUNKuno 9,388 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 35 minutes ago, coastiemike said: Which alt should we check back with? Got ‘eeem RedandBlack4ever 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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