Atlanta Trades up to the #1 Pick & Selects Trevor Lawrence

[Boise Falcon Fan 4,116]

12 minutes ago, Run 'n' Shoot said:

This would be the dumbest thing a new GM could possibly do and lead to him promptly getting fired.

I wish we could fast forward in time past the draft just to not have to see 5 of these ridiculous posts every day.

Says the guy with a Jerry Glanville profile pic...

[Godzilla1985 6,707]

Unless Lawrence does an Elway or Manning we ain’t getting him.

[coastiemike 3,444]

2 hours ago, Boise Falcon Fan said:

My Madden Trade, and I can honestly see it happening. Small chance I know, but if I was GM this is the direction I would probably go. 37 year old MR, and a recently oft injured JJ, it's probably time to move on. 

New Falcon's GM Rick Smith, hires EB, and then promptly shocks the world by pulling off the Falcon's second "Michael Vick" trade. 

RS has looked over the Falcon's roster and determined that it makes more sense to burn it down, and rebuild. He jettison's MR & JJ, adding a 2 late 1sts this year, and a 2nd rounder next year.  

In order to get Lawrence, he sends the Jaguars the #4 pick, & the 2 late firsts. 

Jags = 3,000

Falcons #4 = 1,800

2 late 1sts = 1,200 +

Future will look bright, because Falcons take the cap hits in 2021, and they don't have to give up future draft capital to get TL. Guys like TL don't come along every year. Go get him TD...I mean RS! 

 

 

So we are going to start TL and let him get killed behind this OL also he can think about retiring in 4-5 years?

[JohnnyFranchise 2,666]

2 hours ago, Bobby.Digital said:

It would probably take:

2021 1st, 2nd, 3rd 

2022 1st, 2nd, 3rd

2023 1st, 2nd, 3rd

To get the Jags interested. Lawrence is as close to perfect for a QB prospect as you will get. Jags are not passing that up unless it's for something insane.

 

that about sums it up, and if the falcons did that i'd throw my tv through the front window.

[Knight of God 54,020]

10 minutes ago, coastiemike said:

So we are going to start TL and let him get killed behind this OL also he can think about retiring in 4-5 years?

Hes mobile and walks on water. Hes immune to sacks 

[fuego 16,335]

2 hours ago, PokerSteve said:

And I'm reasonably sure they want Lawrence. Their new HC and GM would be slobbering all  over themselves to have Trevor to begin their regime.

 

2 hours ago, celtiksage said:

Yes the availability to get Lawrence is what makes them the most desired GM/HC landing spot at the moment. That's long term job security right there.

Bingo.

[falconsd56 26,660]

 

 

[Herr Doktor 8,704]

In all honesty, this is a suicide mission to trade up.  There is no way to do it without crippling your franchise for years.  TL would **** near have to score 30 points himself and make ten tackles a game for several years.

[falconsd56 26,660]

Just now, Herr Doktor said:

In all honesty, this is a suicide mission to trade up.  There is no way to do it without crippling your franchise for years.  TL would **** near have to score 30 points himself and make ten tackles a game for several years.

Yeah....no need to trade up.

While getting the qb of the future is tempting....it is not needed.

Ryan needs to play better at times and not miss some of the plays that he has missed but overall he does not need to be replaced.... especially with a rookie.

I would much much rather see us bluff and get some poor schmuck of a gm to give up the farm for a qb.

 

 

[Malachore 9,514]

I don't think "rebuild" and trade an entire draft for a player coincide. 

[autigerfan 946]

I have a feeling Lawrence is going to disappoint.  Look at what happened to Luck as he was similarly hyped.  

[youngbloodz 16,405]

1 minute ago, autigerfan said:

I have a feeling Lawrence is going to disappoint.  Look at what happened to Luck as he was similarly hyped.  

Luck wasn’t bad. He just couldn’t stay healthy. 

[Herr Doktor 8,704]

1 minute ago, youngbloodz said:

Luck wasn’t bad. He just couldn’t stay healthy. 

Luck literally had no luck in the health department.  

[PuppyMonster 324]

4 hours ago, Boise Falcon Fan said:

37 year old MR,

Matt just keeps getting older and older on TATF. By this time next year, my boy is going to be 42. 

[youngbloodz 16,405]

2 minutes ago, Herr Doktor said:

Luck literally had no luck in the health department.  

So true. 

[grandcanyonaz 218]

It would cost the Falcons way to much more than the chart says. I hope the Falcons get the third pick and trade back. They need more players and they can't get them through FA.

TL is going to QB Skid Row (either Jags or Jets). I guess we'll see how good he is.

[Ergo Proxy 26,135]

Don’t we; like, have to get under the 2021 salary cap as well?

I don’t see increasing the cap charge of Ryan by $3.5M as helping get under.

We have to get our top Top 51 contracts under the cap by March when the new league year begins. Or whenever the official offseason date hits; even if they were to move it due to Covid.

It’s more financially feasible to restructure Matt and kick the can another year than increase his cap charge and move him; making it harder to comply with cap rules to start next league year; in less than 3 months from now.

Julio isn’t necessarily as off limits but trading him before June increases his cap charge for 2021 by $200K.

[caponine 6,586]

If you throw in Matt Ryan or Julio they definitely make that trade, which is possible 

[falconidae 21,327]

Here's a list of QBs taken number 1 overall in the 2000s:

Vick, Carr, Palmer, Eli Manning, J Russell, Stafford, Bradford, Newton, Luck, Winston, Goff, [Mayfield, Murray, Burrow].

Only one to win a Super Bowl was Eli, and he was a thoroughly mediocre QB who had a couple of good postseason runs.

 

Leaving out the 3 who got drafted last 3 years, leaves 11

4 of them you wouldn't want- J Russell, Bradford, Goff, Winston.

5 got beat up so bad their careers were cut short- Vick, Carr, Palmer, Newton, Luck

Stafford has never won a postseason game.

Teams made some serious trades to get some of these players. If you have the number one pick, yeah, go for it. Trading up to get  THE QB hasn't worked out in the 2000's
 

[Ergo Proxy 26,135]

18 minutes ago, PuppyMonster said:

Matt just keeps getting older and older on TATF. By this time next year, my boy is going to be 42. 

It’s 2020. You wouldn’t understand yet, But...time travel.  Yep. It’s Matt’s evil future washed up self. Legend says he keeps aging to this day. Dirt is jealous.

[Ergo Proxy 26,135]

Honestly, and it pains me to say this, if you are desperate for a QB you need to let him fall. I’d rather roll dice with ONE draft pick than destroy all hope of a rookie having a decent team around him in the near future.

[marvinthemartian 5,456]

10 minutes ago, falconidae said:

Here's a list of QBs taken number 1 overall in the 2000s:

Vick, Carr, Palmer, Eli Manning, J Russell, Stafford, Bradford, Newton, Luck, Winston, Goff, [Mayfield, Murray, Burrow].

Only one to win a Super Bowl was Eli, and he was a thoroughly mediocre QB who had a couple of good postseason runs.

 

Leaving out the 3 who got drafted last 3 years, leaves 11

4 of them you wouldn't want- J Russell, Bradford, Goff, Winston.

5 got beat up so bad their careers were cut short- Vick, Carr, Palmer, Newton, Luck

Stafford has never won a postseason game.

Teams made some serious trades to get some of these players. If you have the number one pick, yeah, go for it. Trading up to get  THE QB hasn't worked out in the 2000's
 

And don’t forget the Bears trading up to get Trubisky at #2 and passing on Mahomes. Yep, the higher they are drafted the better they are/purple

[Ergo Proxy 26,135]

I mean, how often do teams give up their future for a QB at #1 overall?

Even our Julio trade was a more logical gambit on an older roster. Either push a playoff roster to SB status (“all in”)...or keep your boatload of picks and hope you nail them & turn the roster over; creating a sustained excellence.

[coastiemike 3,444]

3 hours ago, Knight of God said:

Hes mobile and walks on water. Hes immune to sacks 

He might have Jesus hair but he is going to be crucified behind this line.

[putnam6 5,006]

It's as likely to happen as this nugget, which I hate as well,though I assume the thought is he could get the most out of Justin Fields

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Former Ohio State coach Urban Meyer could make his return to the sidelines, but this time at the next level.

According to ESPN’s Adam Schefter, at least two NFL teams are interested in interviewing Urban Meyer including the Detroit Lions and Jacksonville Jaguars, however, the Atlanta Falcons are now in the mix though it hasn’t been confirmed.

Schefter also reported that Meyer did not dismiss the idea of taking his talents to the next level. Additional sources added that Meyer is expected to make up his mind within a week or two and take interviews from there.