celtiksage 2,003 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Just now, caponine said: Not really , shows stats arent everything You can throw for 600 yards but if you arent clutch then it doesn't matter I can agree with that, and MR hasn't been clutch in a few years. I won't argue that. Now last week, I was hoping for Schaub. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheTrue7 5,335 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Just now, JD dirtybird21 said: If you throw for 600 yards and lose, the narrative is you're a choker or not "clutch." The reality is, you are probably a good player that plays on a bad team. Jinx JDaveG 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ovie_Lover 29,604 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 16 minutes ago, TheDirtyWordII said: If you guys want to bathe yourself in 1st term Obama level Ryan, be my guest. I’ll be over here in reality corner where the Falcons are on their way to their 2nd 18-30 stretch in the last 8 seasons; 75% of the time. Where the Falcons make 1+ fewer plays than are necessary to win. You’re the one that brought up “track record” are we supposed to only count the bad years so you can feel right? Ergo Proxy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ergo Proxy 25,926 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 For 4 Quarters, Ryan did more than Mahomes overall. Better overall QB play doesn’t = wins. End of regulation at best was undecided if Koo makes his FG. The Chiefs kicker made their Kick. Both teams had 3 drives in the 4th Q. Both QBs threw 4th Q TD on one of those drives. Chiefs Punted on One. Falcons WR fumbled in FG range. Falcons missed a FG on the other drive. Chiefs made theirs on their other drive. What are we missing here? Troll further. Ryan led Falcons to at least 2 FG attempts and we go 0 for 1. Objectively and narratively even if you boil it down to just the 4th Q: The difference this game was turnover by Falcons in FG range one drive and a missed FG on another. The rest is blatant trolling. JohnnyFranchise, RetroRoq, JDaveG and 3 others 3 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheDirtyWordII 3,394 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, JD dirtybird21 said: He isn't stuck. He knows EXACTLY what we're saying and he knows we're right. Bottom line is, he just doesn't like Ryan so he's twisting crap to fit his agenda. You’re right? Please... I have the Falcons performance over the last 8 years on my side. You have hopes and dreams and AFMB comrarderie. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caponine 6,586 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 1 minute ago, JD dirtybird21 said: If you throw for 600 yards and lose, the narrative is you're a choker or not "clutch." The reality is, you are probably a good player that plays on a bad team. Thats Matt Ryan lol thats what im saying Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheTrue7 5,335 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, JD dirtybird21 said: He isn't stuck. He knows EXACTLY what we're saying and he knows we're right. Bottom line is, he just doesn't like Ryan so he's twisting crap to fit his agenda. Nah.. trust me.. he’s stuck.. just hope he’s not buried JD dirtybird21 and JohnnyFranchise 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JD dirtybird21 22,477 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Just now, Ovie_Lover said: You’re the one that brought up “track record” are we supposed to only count the bad years so you can feel right? That's how an agenda works. Variables aren't a thing. Let me demonstrate: Then see this: Agenda: BRADY WON!!! BRADY WON!!! CLUTCHIEST SLICE OF PIE I'VE EVER SEEN!!! OMG OMG OMG Ergo Proxy, Geaux_Falcons, JDaveG and 6 others 2 4 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jerz #GurleySZN 7,168 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, JD dirtybird21 said: I like how you are discrediting people's opinion's because of supposed friendships or popularity. It's a funny way to deflect. Lmao it’s not supposed it’s clearly apparent. When the same circlejerking bunch of cronies continuously misinterpret your words purposely, twist them and then argue with you over clear semantics then the deflection has already been done. Sidecar Falcon and caponine 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caponine 6,586 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, TheTrue7 said: If you have to do more than throw for 600 yards, then the problem isn’t because you’re not clutch. Its an example but ultimately if a team isnt performing than the QB has to pick the team up. For 3 qtrs the offense was awful, and the chiefs defense wasnt even that good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kenn.junior 786 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, caponine said: Not really , shows stats arent everything You can throw for 600 yards but if you arent clutch then it doesn't matter so other people dont bear responsibility only that one person that logic is flawed Ergo Proxy and JDaveG 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JD dirtybird21 22,477 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, TheDirtyWordII said: You’re right? Please... I have the Falcons performance over the last 8 years on my side. You have hopes and dreams and AFMB comrarderie. I am right. You have nothing but people who want a new QB on your side. Nothing more. Ergo Proxy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JD dirtybird21 22,477 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Jerz #GurleySZN said: Lmao it’s not supposed it’s clearly apparent. When the same circlejerking bunch of cronies continuously misinterpret your words purposely, twist them and then argue with you over clear semantics then the deflection has already been done. Awesome, you've just earned yourself a suspension. JohnnyFranchise 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheTrue7 5,335 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 1 minute ago, caponine said: Its an example but ultimately if a team isnt performing than the QB has to pick the team up. For 3 qtrs the offense was awful, and the chiefs defense wasnt even that good. Philosophy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caponine 6,586 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, celtiksage said: I can agree with that, and MR hasn't been clutch in a few years. I won't argue that. Now last week, I was hoping for Schaub. Agreed, he really looks like the pressure gets to him now ever since 2016. Cant finish, seems to always fold when the team needs him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caponine 6,586 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, kenn.junior said: so other people dont bear responsibility only that one person that logic is flawed Well you are the qb , and he has had about 5 to 6 losses that were on him this season Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheDirtyWordII 3,394 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Just now, JD dirtybird21 said: I am right. You have nothing but people who want a new QB on your side. Nothing more. I don’t even have a side... I have Ryan’s and the Falcons performance over the past 8 years at my disposal which at the end of the day is really what matters. I don’t blame everyone else who makes a fraction of what Ryan makes as the source of all the Falcons ills...I go to the most important figure affiliated with the franchise. Most of the football watching world does as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ergo Proxy 25,926 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ovie_Lover said: You’re the one that brought up “track record” are we supposed to only count the bad years so you can feel right? I just can’t believe we had 3 4QC and 2 GWD just last year alone. Ovie_Lover 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheTrue7 5,335 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Just now, TheDirtyWordII said: I don’t even have a side... I have Ryan’s and the Falcons performance over the past 8 years at my disposal which at the end of the day is really what matters. I don’t blame everyone else who makes a fraction of what Ryan makes as the source of all the Falcons ills...I go to the most important figure affiliated with the franchise. Most of the football watching world does as well. Oxymoron? Ergo Proxy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheDirtyWordII 3,394 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 1 minute ago, TheTrue7 said: Oxymoron? Get wrapped up in semantics if you will...record shows the truth. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
celtiksage 2,003 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 1 minute ago, caponine said: Agreed, he really looks like the pressure gets to him now ever since 2016. Cant finish, seems to always fold when the team needs him. He was young when he carried the team. Maybe the first few years but he certainly hasn't done it in a while. I don't think he can do it again. But if Flaco can win a SB, we still have hope with MR. We got to build that D (and probably still find Matt's replacement). His decision making seems to be regressing too, but I'm not mad at him about today. We could have drafted Haskins hahahaha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kenn.junior 786 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, caponine said: Agreed, he really looks like the pressure gets to him now ever since 2016. Cant finish, seems to always fold when the team needs him. so the game vs the cardinals where bryant miss the xp means matt isnt clutch. the game vs the saints where we went into OT cuz the defensive let the saints score 2x at the end of the game and in OT wasnt clutch. vs the lions this year where matt took us all the way down the field scored a TD just for the defense to let the lions march all the way down the field to win thats not clutch by matt cmon now Edited December 27, 2020 by kenn.junior RetroRoq and Ergo Proxy 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheTrue7 5,335 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 1 minute ago, TheDirtyWordII said: Get wrapped up in semantics if you will...record shows the truth. I agree. The team’s record shows the truth. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ovie_Lover 29,604 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 **** Wilson sacked again. Why doesn’t he simply avoid it? Ergo Proxy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RetroRoq 511 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ergo Proxy said: I just can’t believe we had 3 4QC and 2 GWD just last year alone. Not sure if you included Arizona last year when the kicker missed the tying extra point at the end, but if not... well, you know Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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