I never want to hear Ryan is not the problem anymore

[TheTrue7 5,340]

2 minutes ago, TheDirtyWordII said:

If you guys want to bathe yourself in 1st term Obama level Ryan, be my guest.

I’ll be over here in reality corner where the Falcons are on their way to their 2nd 18-30 stretch in the last 8 seasons; 75% of the time.  Where the Falcons make 1+ fewer plays than are necessary to win.

You left off “that I’ll put all blame on the quarterback for”

[Dr Long Shot 3,939]

Just now, Bunchy Carter said:

Gage and Hurst are DEFINITELY players.

Gage is a good slot guy, not a good #2. Hurst is a whatever my dude, you can put almost anyone there and get similar production. 

[caponine 6,586]

32 minutes ago, celtiksage said:

We've gone off on a tangent.

No , u just hate it because it does not fit your narrative 

[PuppyMonster 269]

This is the thread that keeps on giving. 

[TheDirtyWordII 3,394]

1 minute ago, TheTrue7 said:

You left off “that I’ll put all blame on the quarterback for”

We pay him the big $$$ to make plays.  Everyone else loses their job/career when the Falcons perform as such.  Not Ryan...

Culture here is to celebrate goodness.  Winners celebrate greatness.  I’d prefer to be a winner...

[kenn.junior 786]

10 minutes ago, TheDirtyWordII said:

It comes down to making plays.  Ryan didn’t make enough.  Again.

how he took them all the way the field to kick the gwf

[GrimeyKidd 1,305]

1 hour ago, caponine said:

While stats are nice, Mahomes came in clutch.  Thats where you make your money,  those clutch situations. Ryan hasnt been that good thisyear in those situations. 

he sure did score A TD and then put the team in scoring position but i guess. 

[TheDirtyWordII 3,394]

Just now, kenn.junior said:

how he took them all the way the field to kick the gwf

Here you are distorting facts now to prop up Ryan.  Unless FG’s worth 4 points in your world.

[Bunchy Carter 3,243]

2 minutes ago, Dr Long Shot said:

Gage is a good slot guy, not a good #2. Hurst is a whatever my dude, you can put almost anyone there and get similar production. 

😶

[TheTrue7 5,340]

1 minute ago, TheDirtyWordII said:

We pay him the big $$$ to make plays.  Everyone else loses their job/career when the Falcons perform as such.  Not Ryan...

Culture here is to celebrate goodness.  Winners celebrate greatness.  I’d prefer to be a winner...

Id say he made enough plays today to HELP the TEAM goal of a win. There were however other plays that could have been made to HELP the TEAM goal of a win. I’m not saying take a step back.. more just lean back and take it ALL in.

[caponine 6,586]

1 minute ago, GrimeyKidd said:

he sure did score A TD and then put the team in scoring position but i guess. 

And then proceeded to choke in the situation 

[TheDirtyWordII 3,394]

Just now, TheTrue7 said:

Id say he made enough plays today to HELP the TEAM goal of a win. There were however other plays that could have been made to HELP the TEAM goal of a win. I’m not saying take a step back.. more just lean back and take it ALL in.

Chiefs needed a TD to win the game.  Mahomes got them one.

Falcons needed a TD to win the game.  Ryan didn‘t.

That. Simple.

[kenn.junior 786]

13 minutes ago, Dr Long Shot said:

Yea Stafford is a bum. Put Wilson on those Detroit teams and they would have been racking up super bowls. 

thats cap russ has done nothing with the seahawks since they choked their SB they havent been back to the NFCCG since

[Geaux_Falcons 1,173]

8 hours ago, TheDirtyWordII said:

It’s the most recent 8...the time after major playoff collapse #1.

Not arbitrary at all. 

That's very arbitrary and agenda based. What about the shellacking we took from the Packers and Giants in the playoffs the years before 2012?! We seeded higher the year t he Packers blew us out.  

[celtiksage 2,032]

6 minutes ago, caponine said:

No , u just hate it because it does not fit your narrative 

I don't have a narrative DA. I want a new QB as much as anyone.

[caponine 6,586]

1 minute ago, celtiksage said:

I don't have a narrative DA. I want a new QB as much as anyone.

Then why did u try to disprove my post ?? He is 2nd in the nfl in the last 10 years with 300 yard games resulting in L's

[TheTrue7 5,340]

1 minute ago, TheDirtyWordII said:

Chiefs needed a TD to win the game.  Mahomes got them one.

Falcons needed a TD to win the game.  Ryan didn‘t.

That. Simple.

But it’s not though. You’re just stuck. 

[Sidecar Falcon 7,786]

27 minutes ago, Jerz #GurleySZN said:

Yeah thats what happens when emotions get in the mix. You can’t look at anything objectively when you’re not honest with yourself. He’s been here for 13 years so I understand but sheesh we’re supposed to be grown men here lmfao.

You’re level headed post are so refreshing from the hopeless optimism constantly being regurgitated from these boards year after year. But after posting the worst record in a 3 year skid somehow someway we’ll be geared up for a SB run in 2 offseasons..

I simply want the next OC to be able to have a wide array of plays to chose from. Matts archetype just needs too many accommodations for the team to be able to build. 

Good post. Whenever a person’s loyalty to a team is superseded by their loyalty to a player, you have issues. Ryan pulled this team out of the absolute $hit show that Vick/Petrino left in their wake. For that, he’ll always have a special place in my heart and for this city.

Thank you for the compliment. I try to remain balanced when discussing football. In another post I made the statement that Arthur Smith’s scheme may be limited because of Ryan’s mobility. I was met with strawman arguments, false narratives, and apoplectic remarks.

These are the people that are loyal to the players and not the team. We saw it with Roddy White when his time came. We’re seeing it with Ryan, and will see it with Julio.

I somewhat disagree with you on the last statement. I think Ryan just needs a run game to utilize his play action and he can be a good QB. Good like Alex Smith before Mahomes took over. Ryan isn’t elite, he never was, he was always just a good QB. Which is perfectly fine.

Smith’s scheme utilizes the run game to set up play action for intermediate routes. Ryan is money with those routes. Which is why I want Smith to come here. He should be able to squeeze another year or two of good play out of Ryan while we start the rebuild.

If we draft a QB high in the first round, they can sit for a year, maybe two, before getting the start. Ryan can groom him and refine him with pro knowledge. Ryan still has inherit value because of his knowledge of the game. 

[TheDirtyWordII 3,394]

3 minutes ago, Geaux_Falcons said:

That's very arbitrary and agenda based. What about the shellacking we took from the Packers and Giants in the playoffs the years before 2012?! We seeded higher the year t he Packers blew us out.  

We were overmatched in those games...the SF game?  We had.  We were the better team.  But Falcons collapsed and as such began to build a legacy of being the biggest collapsers in pro sports.

[celtiksage 2,032]

Just now, caponine said:

Then why did u try to disprove my post ?? He is 2nd in the nfl in the last 10 years with 300 yard games resulting in L's

Because he did just fine today, and all that stat shows is our D sucks. 

[JD dirtybird21 22,485]

12 minutes ago, Jerz #GurleySZN said:

You have half of the board to kiss your butt so their opinions dont mean much. Drones.

I like how you are discrediting people's opinion's because of supposed friendships or popularity. It's a funny way to deflect. 

[caponine 6,586]

1 minute ago, celtiksage said:

Because he did just fine today, and all that stat shows is our D sucks. 

Not really , shows stats arent everything 

 You can throw for 600 yards but if you arent clutch then it doesn't matter 

[JD dirtybird21 22,485]

2 minutes ago, TheTrue7 said:

But it’s not though. You’re just stuck. 

He isn't stuck. He knows EXACTLY what we're saying and he knows we're right. Bottom line is, he just doesn't like Ryan so he's twisting crap to fit his agenda. 

[JD dirtybird21 22,485]

Just now, caponine said:

Not really , shows stats arent everything 

 You can throw for 600 yards but if you arent clutch then it doesn't matter 

If you throw for 600 yards and lose, the narrative is you're a choker or not "clutch." The reality is, you are probably a good player that plays on a bad team. 

[TheTrue7 5,340]

1 minute ago, caponine said:

Not really , shows stats arent everything 

 You can throw for 60p yards but if you arent clutch then it doesn't matter 

If you have to do more than throw for 600 yards, then the problem isn’t because you’re not clutch.