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"Kirby, are you ever gonna start Justin Fields over Jake Fromm?"

Ohio state players should be well rested. They only played 3 games

There are a whole group of people that will never let him live down letting Fields go. I'm one of them. 

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1 hour ago, Spts1 said:

Our secondary has to show up in this game on defense. On offense we need to continue with a balance of the run and pass with more on the running game because our receivers are having a hard time getting seperation.

Someone other than Olave and Fields have to have a great game.  Clemson will scheme to keep them contained.  That is a good Clemson defense.  

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2 minutes ago, usmcdirtybird said:

Someone other than Olave and Fields have to have a great game.  Clemson will scheme to keep them contained.  That is a good Clemson defense.  

The receivers have not been open. This has caused Fields to hold the ball and make bad decisions.  He needs to bail quicker instead of going through  the whole  progression on first and second  down. On third down, Clemson most likely gonna mush rush him like they did Ian Book. Thats the down that's really gonna put pressure on the receivers to get open...

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6 hours ago, Spts1 said:

The receivers have not been open. This has caused Fields to hold the ball and make bad decisions.  He needs to bail quicker instead of going through  the whole  progression on first and second  down. On third down, Clemson most likely gonna mush rush him like they did Ian Book. Thats the down that's really gonna put pressure on the receivers to get open...

That’s the problem.  He’s not going through progressions.  He’s making one read and when it’s not there he looks bad.

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6 hours ago, Spts1 said:

  It only took a few games to see we are playoff caliber...:lol:

“We”?  I would venture to say you don’t even have a university degree...let alone from the Ohio State a university.   You may have an associates degree in trolling where you barely passed, with a minor in being a turducken.  You can act like you care QS much as you like but you are definition of fair weather.

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20 minutes ago, Porter Osborne Jr said:

That’s the problem.  He’s not going through progressions.  He’s making one read and when it’s not there he looks bad.

He has been holding the ball. He is going through his progressions.  The receivers haven't been getting open. 5his is in general. He HAS missed going to open receivers, but thats not the overall problem. He should leave the pocket sooner...

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2 minutes ago, Spts1 said:

He has been holding the ball. He is going through his progressions.  The receivers haven't been getting open. 5his is in general. He HAS missed going to open receivers, but thats not the overall problem. He should leave the pocket sooner...

So should he leave the pocket sooner or hit open receivers while in the pocket?  What are you talking about?  

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18 hours ago, Spts1 said:

The receivers have not been open. This has caused Fields to hold the ball and make bad decisions.  He needs to bail quicker instead of going through  the whole  progression on first and second  down. On third down, Clemson most likely gonna mush rush him like they did Ian Book. Thats the down that's really gonna put pressure on the receivers to get open...

Good to see you won’t be criticizing the Falcons offense and Ryan for exactly the same thing anymore!

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1 hour ago, tl;dr said:

Good to see you won’t be criticizing the Falcons offense and Ryan for exactly the same thing anymore!

Standing in the pocket too long like Ryan IS the problem. He doesn't need to prove anything to anyone about progressions. Its about moving that first down marker.

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12 minutes ago, Porter Osborne Jr said:

Wow.  That’s embarrassing 

It's pretty sad. 

2015: Michigan State lost 38-0 to Alabama
2016: Ohio State lost 31-0 to Clemson
2017: 2 loss Ohio State got bumped for 1 loss Alabama
2018: 1 loss Ohio State got bumped for 1 loss Oklahoma
2019: Ohio State lost 29-23 to Clemson 

And in the 2 years the Big 10 champ didn't make it, I don't think the results would have been much different. Ohio State would have lost in the first round (2017 to Clemson and 2018 to Alabama). 

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On 12/20/2020 at 9:42 PM, Spts1 said:

He has been holding the ball. He is going through his progressions.  The receivers haven't been getting open. 5his is in general. He HAS missed going to open receivers, but thats not the overall problem. He should leave the pocket sooner...

If his first option isn't there he struggles to find open receivers.  That doesn't mean they aren't out there, but that he has a hard time finding them since he struggles with his progressions.  That is what happens when you go up against better defenses like Northwestern.  If he thinks that is hard go to the NFL and be a one read only qb and he will be a huge bust.  Ryan Day's system is perfect for him because Fields does zero presnap reads and usually his 1st option is wide open since the level of competition is pretty poor game in and game out for OSU.  When you have the most talent and it's not even close you can get away with playing qb that way in most games.  

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1 hour ago, SacFalcFan said:

If his first option isn't there he struggles to find open receivers.  That doesn't mean they aren't out there, but that he has a hard time finding them since he struggles with his progressions.  That is what happens when you go up against better defenses like Northwestern.  If he thinks that is hard go to the NFL and be a one read only qb and he will be a huge bust.  Ryan Day's system is perfect for him because Fields does zero presnap reads and usually his 1st option is wide open since the level of competition is pretty poor game in and game out for OSU.  When you have the most talent and it's not even close you can get away with playing qb that way in most games.  

This argument was made last season about Justin before he chewed up the Wisconsin defense.  The entire year it was " wait till he faces a good defense."   Wisconsin finished with the 10th ranked overall defense, 7th ranked passing defense, and Justin chewed them up for 299 yards passing and 3 touchdowns...

The play below is a huge part of whats make quarterbacks like Justin, Zach Wilson, Russell Wilson, Trevor Lawrence, Watson,  etc. very good.  Day has Fields roll to his left in redzone.  The defense HAS to respect his running ability.  Do they come up and leave coverage responsibility?  Do they sit in coverage?  Progression?  Dual threat quarterbacks DICTATE the progression in a lot of situations.

 

 

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6 hours ago, tl;dr said:

I really hope Fields proves me wrong and beats Clemson. So sick of Dabo. 

Last years was a big moment for the Big 10 in the playoffs though. They scored points for the first time in the CFP since 2014! 

Our secondary has to show up.  Our safeties and corners have been having miscommunication problems the entire season.  The run defense is solid. Our linebackers, especially Pete Werner and Tuf Borland, are VERY solid.  We should be able to contain Etienne.  On offense, we may try to pass early and then settle into a solid run game with Sermon to force Clemson's safeties into the box so that we can then exploit them deep.  Thats how I would approach it.

Werner

Ohio State: Pete Werner, Tuf Borland playing key roles for Buckeyes

 

Borland

 

Scarlet Sunrise: Which Buckeyes graded as champions in opening blowout?

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3 minutes ago, Spts1 said:

Our secondary has to show up.  Our safeties and corners have been having miscommunication problems the entire season.  The run defense is solid. Our linebackers, especially Pete Werner and Tuf Borland, are VERY solid.  We should be able to contain Etienne.  On offense, we may try to pass early and then settle into a solid run game with Sermon to force Clemson's safeties into the box so that we can then exploit them deep.  Thats how I would approach it.

Werner

Ohio State: Pete Werner, Tuf Borland playing key roles for Buckeyes

 

Borland

 

Scarlet Sunrise: Which Buckeyes graded as champions in opening blowout?

Well I’m with you this time! Let’s go Buckeyes!! Please shut me up Fields. 

Maybe it’s me, but Dabo and Lawrence give me major “fake church people” vibes. You know the type lol. 

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