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Saints vs. Falcons - Plan to Have Your Mute Button On - Vilma Coming


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I felt like I was listening to a Raiders announcer for our game last week although analyst Tim Green was not too bad in our win.

This week, though, might be a different story as FOX has assigned Jonathan Vilma to be the analyst along with announcer Kenny Albert.

I understand this might please half the audience in New Orleans and that there are not many analysts available to FOX but this is essentially like having a kid in a toy store.  Vilma is a Payton-loving, all-time New Orleans star.  Even if he knows the rivalry between the Saints and Falcons, the main things he will likely remember are those positive for the Saints.  Can he really be objective or equally knowledgeable of both teams?

How can FOX put this pair to cover a Falcons-Saints game?  Is every other analyst possible just too dumb about the Saints or Falcons to be on this game?

I guess mute or local radio is going to be necessary.

https://saintswire.usatoday.com/2020/12/01/saints-vs-falcons-channel-jonathan-vilma-fox-sports/

https://www.nfl.com/videos/jonathan-vilma-explains-what-separates-sean-payton-from-other-coaches

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I would love to see a TV network really play into the Rivalry that some teams have with each other and do a special broadcast where they each bring on an ex player(s) from each team and let them talk a little trash. Can you imagine if Roddy was in the booth with Vilma?? As a fan, I would love to hear some of their insights and rehashing old stories playing against each other. It's always cool to see the mutual respect these guys have for each other, while also seeing their competitive fires raging for their favorite teams. One can dream.

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I was listening to Aikmen instead of my usual effort to just tune him out.  I became curious why he was so annoying.  He said something like this.

"Well you know, on the other side, sometimes it works, it just doesn't, well, sometimes, he likes that system."

And, comment after comment was like this.  They don't actually pay him do they?

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1 minute ago, DonOfThemBirds said:

 

I think it'll be more competitive this time around.

I fully expect your defense to play better. 

But our defense has been stifling the last 5 games. Absolutely stifling opponents. If your oline doesnt hold up like game 1, its gonna be a really long day for the Falcons. 

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7 minutes ago, marvinthemartian said:

As I recall, and I could be mistaken, but it seems to me he was knee deep in bounty gate. If that’s true, and if memory serves me correctly it is, I bet that subject never gets brought up when he does any game but especially not in Saints games. 

First, bountygate was a sham. It was done for PR vs concussion issue that was rising in the NFL. Thats all that ever was. Every team had a pay for hits program. Furthermore, every team knew to target the QB- if you get him out the game, the game changes. So you can continue to believe that bounty gate was a real thing that only the SAINTS incorporated if thats what you want to do. 

But the veteran NFLers know the real deal. 

 

Second, you said your team would "bounty gate them to death on Sunday" 

 

I replied AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA because, if my memory serves me correct, yall havent "bounty gated" much defensively this year and especially in game 1 of our meetings. 

 

So unless your team found a defensive baller, i suspect you will see much of the same from game 1. Debo to spy Hill effectively removing him from coverage/plays and a pretty stout run game from the Saints. Mix in some throws by Hill to keep yall guessing and we win something like 24-14 or 24-16. 

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18 minutes ago, HASHBROWN3 said:

There are two things I would like to see Sunday.

Attack Taysom Hill with all resources & DO NOT allow he or Kamara to beat you.  

 

It should really be don’t allow Kamara or Thomas to beat the Falcons. We’ve done a good job containing Kamara historically so I’m not that worried about him, but Thomas usually eats against us. 

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54 minutes ago, Glorioso said:

First, bountygate was a sham. It was done for PR vs concussion issue that was rising in the NFL. Thats all that ever was. Every team had a pay for hits program. Furthermore, every team knew to target the QB- if you get him out the game, the game changes. So you can continue to believe that bounty gate was a real thing that only the SAINTS incorporated if thats what you want to do. 

But the veteran NFLers know the real deal. 

 

Second, you said your team would "bounty gate them to death on Sunday" 

 

I replied AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA because, if my memory serves me correct, yall havent "bounty gated" much defensively this year and especially in game 1 of our meetings. 

 

So unless your team found a defensive baller, i suspect you will see much of the same from game 1. Debo to spy Hill effectively removing him from coverage/plays and a pretty stout run game from the Saints. Mix in some throws by Hill to keep yall guessing and we win something like 24-14 or 24-16. 

That is simply delusional. 

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2 hours ago, Snozberies17 said:

I would love to see a TV network really play into the Rivalry that some teams have with each other and do a special broadcast where they each bring on an ex player(s) from each team and let them talk a little trash. Can you imagine if Roddy was in the booth with Vilma?? As a fan, I would love to hear some of their insights and rehashing old stories playing against each other. It's always cool to see the mutual respect these guys have for each other, while also seeing their competitive fires raging for their favorite teams. One can dream.

Lol definitely not. Roddy & Vilma will be fighting in that booth.

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1 hour ago, NaGaBoy said:

That is simply delusional. 

Dont wanna derail this thread with news from 2010-11

 

but here are some links for your reading pleasure. Plenty more out there if you care to dive in.

 

The NFL APPROVED of Reggie Whites "smash for cash" program. The NFL SOLD VHS TAPES OF BIG HITS for DECADES. ( PS google NFL BIG HITS video for sale and see that it all but disappears 2012 ) You cant find a single NFL sold tape of big hits. Wonder why???

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2012/10/18/nflpa-1996-bounty-program-reggie-white/1643073/

 

Delusional is to think the NFL was not trying to CYA with concussion suits pending. 

 

As you get older, what you will learn, is that it is ALWAYS....ALWAYS about MONEY. 

 

always. 

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3 hours ago, Glorioso said:

First, bountygate was a sham. It was done for PR vs concussion issue that was rising in the NFL. Thats all that ever was. Every team had a pay for hits program. Furthermore, every team knew to target the QB- if you get him out the game, the game changes. So you can continue to believe that bounty gate was a real thing that only the SAINTS incorporated if thats what you want to do. 

Here's an idea.  Rent one of those large signs outside of Mercedes Benz stadium and tell the world all about it.

Saints are GUILTY of bountygate and now their superbowl win will forever have an asterisk.  Embrace the suck.

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59 minutes ago, Glorioso said:

Dont wanna derail this thread with news from 2010-11

 

but here are some links for your reading pleasure. Plenty more out there if you care to dive in.

 

The NFL APPROVED of Reggie Whites "smash for cash" program. The NFL SOLD VHS TAPES OF BIG HITS for DECADES. ( PS google NFL BIG HITS video for sale and see that it all but disappears 2012 ) You cant find a single NFL sold tape of big hits. Wonder why???

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2012/10/18/nflpa-1996-bounty-program-reggie-white/1643073/

 

Delusional is to think the NFL was not trying to CYA with concussion suits pending. 

 

As you get older, what you will learn, is that it is ALWAYS....ALWAYS about MONEY. 

 

always. 

I am not saying it does not happen.  As you stated, there is money on the table.  There are people with limited ethics and morals who will find ways to have others give them some of that money.

But, you stated Bountygate was a sham.  It was not.  Payton took it too far for some of his players to deal with.  And, you make it sound like most players are involved with this.  Most are not.  Historically, the players involved wanted to take a player out because they wanted to win or were weary of chasing someone, usually QBs and RBs.  It is difficult to know when a defender wants to take a player out of the game.  It is even difficult to uncover a payout offered by someone to take a player out.  Payton was busted because he opened the offer to his entire team.  There are coaches who will not cross that line.  There are players who will not cross that line.  And, one of those players stepped up and revealed what was happening. 

And, btw, old wise sage, you do not know me.  I played football, fought in a war, succeeded in corporate America for 40+ years, and have watched football for 60+ years old wise sage.  I may have learned a few things about what people can and cannot do in that time.  And, I have learned when, why, and how someone pushes a story that they themselves do not believe.  I laughed at your presumptuous "As you get older". 

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