MilleniumFalcon 3,075 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 1 hour ago, D.B.N. said: A mobile QB can at least escape pressure or extend the play. Didn’t know I had to break it down Barney style for you Koetter is a crap playcaller but it's frustrating to see Matt Ryan not be able to do anything and play scared (falling to the ground) with pressure. You see QB's like Mahomes, Rodgers, Wilson who escape pressure all the time in those same situations and make big plays. That's why I would love to have someone like a Trevor Lawrence. Dirtier Bird 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ezekiel 25:17 16,901 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 1 hour ago, A Dog Named Brian said: Makes me wonder if we’re the only fan base that expects our QB to magically overcome bad coaching? Judging from the title of this thread, that would be a yes. Sure Matt had a bad game today, but who could Anyone honestly said DID have a good game? I’ll sit here Barney style and wait for them to answer. rounz, JohnnyFranchise, Ergo Proxy and 3 others 3 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SkerFalcon8710 18,790 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Justin fields woulda tossed 3 picks today Ezekiel 25:17 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ezekiel 25:17 16,901 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 1 minute ago, SkerFalcon8710 said: Justin fields woulda tossed 3 picks today Easily. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyFranchise 1,438 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, SkerFalcon8710 said: Justin fields woulda tossed 3 picks today but he's a "dual threat" qb, he would've just run for 350 yards and 4 tds today. don't you know, that's the way the nfl is trending these days. Ezekiel 25:17 and Ergo Proxy 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
D.B.N. 5,328 Posted November 22, 2020 Author Share Posted November 22, 2020 14 minutes ago, Ezekiel 25:17 said: Judging from the title of this thread, that would be a yes. Sure Matt had a bad game today, but who could Anyone honestly said DID have a good game? I’ll sit here Barney style and wait for them to answer. A QB who can escape pressure and extend plays would have given us a better chance than a statue back there. There’s your Barney style explanation Jerz #GurleySZN 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyFranchise 1,438 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, D.B.N. said: A QB who can escape pressure and extend plays would have given us a better chance than a statue back there. There’s your Barney style explanation or NO would've adjusted their defense and line scheme to compensate for a running qb and DK still wouldn't have been able to scheme recievers open. rounz, marvinthemartian and Ezekiel 25:17 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ezekiel 25:17 16,901 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, D.B.N. said: A QB who can escape pressure and extend plays would have given us a better chance than a statue back there. There’s your Barney style explanation And like I asked,WHO PLAYED WELL today? I’ll take that as you don’t know or as a nobody, Barney. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ezekiel 25:17 16,901 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 1 minute ago, JohnnyFranchise said: or NO would've adjusted their defense and line scheme to compensate for a running qb and DK still wouldn't have been able to scheme recievers open. Thank you. Sometimes you have to explain things like Barney to Barney. JohnnyFranchise 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Blank 994 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 1 hour ago, D.B.N. said: Didn’t Matt publicly endorse signing Koetter? What is he supposed to say? “Oh no! Not him again?” rounz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lornoth 11,606 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Can you imagine if we had Hill at QB today? He'd have retired halfway through the first quarter. JohnnyFranchise 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
D.B.N. 5,328 Posted November 22, 2020 Author Share Posted November 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, Ezekiel 25:17 said: And like I asked,WHO PLAYED WELL today? I’ll take that as you don’t know or as a nobody, Barney. Admit Ryan is washed and played like ****. I know you can do it. Dig deep! Spts1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ezekiel 25:17 16,901 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 26 minutes ago, JohnnyFranchise said: but he's a "dual threat" qb, he would've just run for 350 yards and 4 tds today. don't you know, that's the way the nfl is trending these days. Yeah, that one guy would have made up for the bad blocking, play calling and route running by just simply running around long enough for our team figure it out. Oh and because he can run around that would automatically make him a great decision maker and accurate. I’m sure the other team wouldn’t have adjusted for that any point like we don’t. JohnnyFranchise 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wnyfalconfan 254 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 2 hours ago, D.B.N. said: Matty Melt sacked 8 times and 2 picks. But it isn’t his fault, nothing is ever Ryan’s fault /s If you need a mobile QB to win then explain how the Steelers are 10-0 with Ben Roethlisberger. He's a statue in the pocket. So how did they do it JohnnyFranchise, Ghosts of Glanville, rounz and 2 others 3 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ezekiel 25:17 16,901 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, wnyfalconfan said: If you need a mobile QB to win then explain how the Steelers are 10-0 with Ben Roethlisberger. He's a statue in the pocket. So how did they do it Like I said earlier, did Matt suck today? Yes. Was he alone in suckiness??? He!! Nah! Today was as complete a team loss as you could have. NO ONE deserved to win today, including the ball boys and trainers! And just simply having a mobile QB today would not have fixed that. Rings, wnyfalconfan and JohnnyFranchise 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Intellectually Honest 996 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 2 hours ago, D.B.N. said: Matty Melt sacked 8 times and 2 picks. But it isn’t his fault, nothing is ever Ryan’s fault /s It must be the defense's fault for allowing 24 points. Must be the Oline's and WR's fault for not getting open and buying time. Must be the Rb's fault for not blocking, running and catching well enough. Matt Ryan is the greatest Falcon QB ever . . . . We need new coaching . . . You aren't a real fan! . . . . It's your fault we lost. You didn't cheer loud enough! Jerz #GurleySZN and D.B.N. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falcons_Frenzy 3,587 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Yes bring in a mobile QB. I don't care if he has accuracy, a noodle arm, or even brain cells just make sure he's mobile..... Ezekiel 25:17 and rounz 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
D.B.N. 5,328 Posted November 23, 2020 Author Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Intellectually Honest said: It must be the defense's fault for allowing 24 points. Must be the Oline's and WR's fault for not getting open and buying time. Must be the Rb's fault for not blocking, running and catching well enough. Matt Ryan is the greatest Falcon QB ever . . . . We need new coaching . . . You aren't a real fan! . . . . It's your fault we lost. You didn't cheer loud enough! I should’ve known better, Matt’s untouchable round these parts lol Spts1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyFranchise 1,438 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 hour ago, wnyfalconfan said: If you need a mobile QB to win then explain how the Steelers are 10-0 with Ben Roethlisberger. He's a statue in the pocket. So how did they do it wnyfalconfan and Ezekiel 25:17 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JD dirtybird21 21,648 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 4 hours ago, A Dog Named Brian said: Makes me wonder if we’re the only fan base that expects our QB to magically overcome bad coaching? It doesn’t matter who is back there when your OC is Dirk “Pre-snap motion is overrated” Koetter It's called not understanding the game of football. It's like an arcade game to some of these fans... Ergo Proxy and Rings 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JD dirtybird21 21,648 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 3 hours ago, octoslash said: Eight sacks. Some were Ryan's fault but the rest of the offense was horrible today and any qb in the league would've had a bad game in NO today. That's a fact, not an excuse. When the ENTIRE offense isn't good...you should look at the play calling and the coordinators. The receivers couldn't get open to save their lives today. Every single play, the Saints took away Ryan's 1st and 2nd reads. Ryan didn't suddenly lose his ability to read a defense. His reads weren't there, and he was sacked several times as a result. That's called poor play design. rounz, Sterling, A Dog Named Brian and 3 others 4 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ghosts of Glanville 3,130 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 3 hours ago, JohnnyFranchise said: but he's a "dual threat" qb, he would've just run for 350 yards and 4 tds today. don't you know, that's the way the nfl is trending these days. Between Koetter’s coloring book of a game plan and the OL deciding to take the day off, the only difference a “dual threat” QB would have made today is adding 2 fumbles to the 2 INTs Rings, Ergo Proxy, rounz and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marvinthemartian 4,404 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 3 hours ago, JohnnyFranchise said: or NO would've adjusted their defense and line scheme to compensate for a running qb and DK still wouldn't have been able to scheme recievers open. Lol....Barney returns serve nicely! JohnnyFranchise 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rings 5,821 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 4 hours ago, D.B.N. said: sacked 8 times is not extending plays He made it to his fourth read multiple times, how long you want him to extend plays for? #84, Lornoth and Ergo Proxy 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rings 5,821 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 The two most over rated traits for a QB is mobility and arm strength. You need to meet the basic threshold in both and you are good. Can you step up in the pocket or move around in it to avoid pressure? Ryan can. Can you make throws outside the hashes and 20+ yards down field? Ryan can. Is he the best scrambler? No. Is he the best deep ball thrower? Nope. He wasn’t in 16 either. Super Bowl Winning QBs this Century 2019: Mahomes 2018: Brady 2017: Foles 2016: Brady 2015: Peyton Manning 2014: Brady 2013: Wilson 2012: Flacco 2011: Eli Manning 2010: Rodgers 2009: Drew Brees 2008: Big Ben 2007: Eli Manning 2006: Peyton Manning 2005: Big Ben 2004: Brady 2003: Brady 2002: Brad Johnson 2001: Brady 2000: Trent Dilfer Very few mobile guys, very few guys with cannons for an arm. But yes, Ryan’s lack of mobility is why the Falcons can’t win games.../p Ergo Proxy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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