This is why draft rankings and grades are a joke

[mc 777]

https://www.si.com/nfl/lions/news/is-jeff-okudah-play-concerning

 

While Terrell is the 2nd rated rookie cb right now by profootball.

[The Rock 607]

He has impressed for a rookie. Small sample size. More than half the time teams are running the ball easily down our throats. 

[mc 777]

Falcons are 8th in run defense.

[FalconsIn2012 35,314]

35 minutes ago, mc said:

https://www.si.com/nfl/lions/news/is-jeff-okudah-play-concerning

 

While Terrell is the 2nd rated rookie cb right now by profootball.

Okudah will be a very good pro.  It’s Patricia’s system that is the joke.  Every corner is having their worst season in Detroit.

[NWFALCON 3,950]

1 hour ago, The Rock said:

He has impressed for a rookie. Small sample size. More than half the time teams are running the ball easily down our throats. 

His sample size is larger than his peers even with missing time due to covid. He has not been babied and was thrown into the fire. 

[The Rock 607]

1 hour ago, mc said:

https://www.si.com/nfl/lions/news/is-jeff-okudah-play-concerning

 

While Terrell is the 2nd rated rookie cb right now by profootball.

What are the other rookies rated at? Link?

[FalconFanSince1970 24,181]

2 hours ago, mc said:

https://www.si.com/nfl/lions/news/is-jeff-okudah-play-concerning

 

While Terrell is the 2nd rated rookie cb right now by profootball.

We grading after nine games? In a Covid season? I thought all picks get three years? Bro. You might get exposed in this thread by a post digger in a couple years.

[etherdome 6,247]

I liked Terrell more than Okudah and stated so in the draft season.  
 

Okudah did not face much QB/WR talent.  But, hey, it’s too early to tell

[DirtyBird2 1,043]

3 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said:

Okudah will be a very good pro.  It’s Patricia’s system that is the joke.  Every corner is having their worst season in Detroit.

Darius Slay says otherwise...

[Dr Long Shot 3,797]

4 hours ago, The Rock said:

He has impressed for a rookie. Small sample size. More than half the time teams are running the ball easily down our throats. 

Then why do we rank top five in run defense and second to last in pass defense? 🤔

[Draftnut57 4,053]

We need an unstoppable DT and DE,, of better yet.. a Hybrid ,, Monster DE !

[MoFalconsFan56 4,170]

11 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said:

Okudah will be a very good pro.  It’s Patricia’s system that is the joke.  Every corner is having their worst season in Detroit.

Amazing how these coordinators leave the side of the legendary coaches and all of a sudden are pedestrian asf and year after year everyone gets excited for these “protégés” and think this time it’s gonna be different. Not long ago Patricia was regarded as the best candidate and he’s got a degree in rocket science and studied at the bill bellicheck university of defense and blah blah blah now look at him now

Edited November 21, 2020 by MoFalconsFan56

[BlazerSlayer 412]

2 hours ago, MoFalconsFan56 said:

Amazing how these coordinators leave the side of the legendary coaches and all of a sudden are pedestrian asf and year after year everyone gets excited for these “protégés” and think this time it’s gonna be different. Not long ago Patricia was regarded as the best candidate and he’s got a degree in rocket science and studied at the bill bellicheck university of defense and blah blah blah now look at him now

Exactly. If a team is set on promoting a coordinator, then pick one who has had success continually with different teams in different systems.

[Fleurieu falcon 94]

7 hours ago, Draftnut57 said:

We need an unstoppable DT and DE,, of better yet.. a Hybrid ,, Monster DE !

Who would you take as the big DT if given the choice? . 

[Jerz #GurleySZN 7,016]

15 hours ago, FalconFanSince1970 said:

We grading after nine games? In a Covid season? I thought all picks get three years? Bro. You might get exposed in this thread by a post digger in a couple years.

[Draftnut57 4,053]

8 hours ago, Fleurieu falcon said:

Who would you take as the big DT if given the choice? . 

Marvin Wilson !! Ranked in the first Round.. I think we'll be high enough to get him.. We should trade up to get this once in every 10 year DT.  At 6-5, 311 lbs,  from F.S.  The best DL man in this whole class  and it 's not even close. This player is a game changer.  Better than Derick Brown that was the #1 DT last year.. He will be in the top 15 but sadly we probably will be in that top 15 I'm pretty sure. If so,, a no brainer ! Best DL in the whole draft. Go BIG or go home. 

[Fernando C. 963]

30 minutes ago, Draftnut57 said:

Marvin Wilson !! Ranked in the first Round.. I think we'll be high enough to get him.. We should trade up to get this once in every 10 year DT.  At 6-5, 311 lbs,  from F.S.  The best DL man in this whole class  and it 's not even close. This player is a game changer.  Better than Derick Brown that was the #1 DT last year.. He will be in the top 15 but sadly we probably will be in that top 15 I'm pretty sure. If so,, a no brainer ! Best DL in the whole draft. Go BIG or go home. 

I would like to se what Marlon Davidson has before drafting another DT... think he will be a good one... would rather have someone like Caleb or Surtain to have better Cbs...

[Draftnut57 4,053]

36 minutes ago, Fernando C. said:

I would like to se what Marlon Davidson has before drafting another DT... think he will be a good one... would rather have someone like Caleb or Surtain to have better Cbs...

Yes , but we need two Studs at DT. Get the big Monsters in the first two rounds.. DL , and OL, Then take other players. A team's foundation is Lineman. You can get steals at other positions in the 3rd to 7th rounds. 

 

[Rings 6,066]

2 hours ago, Draftnut57 said:

Marvin Wilson !! Ranked in the first Round.. I think we'll be high enough to get him.. We should trade up to get this once in every 10 year DT.  At 6-5, 311 lbs,  from F.S.  The best DL man in this whole class  and it 's not even close. This player is a game changer.  Better than Derick Brown that was the #1 DT last year.. He will be in the top 15 but sadly we probably will be in that top 15 I'm pretty sure. If so,, a no brainer ! Best DL in the whole draft. Go BIG or go home. 

You realize our team lacks depth because of only trading up under TD and never down, yes?  I agree with building through the lines for the most part, but I would rather invest in our secondary or EDGE at this point. We don’t know what we have in Davidson, we know we are screeds at EDGE and we know what we have in Sheffield and Oliver, and it isn’t great.  

[Draftnut57 4,053]

3 hours ago, Rings said:

You realize our team lacks depth because of only trading up under TD and never down, yes?  I agree with building through the lines for the most part, but I would rather invest in our secondary or EDGE at this point. We don’t know what we have in Davidson, we know we are screeds at EDGE and we know what we have in Sheffield and Oliver, and it isn’t great.  

Maybe, but if the chance to get this player is there.. No way can we pass up on one a DTs like Marvin Wilson. And let me just put it like this,, if he is still on the board when we draft.. No way will we pass on him. But don't fret, He probably will be gone by the time we pick in round one. Because IMO, he'll be a top 5 or higher.

[Tim Mazetti 12,093]

On 11/20/2020 at 7:09 PM, etherdome said:

I liked Terrell more than Okudah and stated so in the draft season.  
 

Okudah did not face much QB/WR talent.  But, hey, it’s too early to tell

Yep. A Big 10 corner has opportunities to look good. But then there is the ACC........where UNC, BC and Miami had decent QBs but so did PSU and......I dunno.

[FalconFanSince1969 13,513]

8 hours ago, Draftnut57 said:

Yes , but we need two Studs at DT. Get the big Monsters in the first two rounds.. DL , and OL, Then take other players. A team's foundation is Lineman. You can get steals at other positions in the 3rd to 7th rounds. 

 

Didn't we get Grady in the 5th?

[red falcon 4,657]

On 11/21/2020 at 3:47 AM, MoFalconsFan56 said:

Amazing how these coordinators leave the side of the legendary coaches and all of a sudden are pedestrian asf and year after year everyone gets excited for these “protégés” and think this time it’s gonna be different. Not long ago Patricia was regarded as the best candidate and he’s got a degree in rocket science and studied at the bill bellicheck university of defense and blah blah blah now look at him now

I think their defense was terrible his final year. Brady and bill got him that job. The guy in miami is starting to flash.

[Summerhill 1,450]

I think the lesson with Terrell is don’t let one highly watched game affect how you view a player’s entire career. It seems way too many people allowed what happened in the national championship game color their entire evaluations of Terrell and that was just not the whole picture. 

[Rings 6,066]

16 hours ago, Draftnut57 said:

Maybe, but if the chance to get this player is there.. No way can we pass up on one a DTs like Marvin Wilson. And let me just put it like this,, if he is still on the board when we draft.. No way will we pass on him. But don't fret, He probably will be gone by the time we pick in round one. Because IMO, he'll be a top 5 or higher.

I’ve never understood your false sense of confidence you have on who we would or wouldn’t draft.  We don’t even know who the GM is, let’s not pretend we know what is going to happen in April.