If it was up to Matt Ryan do you think that he would rather keep Dirk Koetter next season or bring in a new OC?

[Vandy 39,759]

11 minutes ago, Mr.Blank said:

This wasn't a statement to keep DK. Just that I'm sure Matt (or any QB) would prefer to not have to change systems every couple years. And if I was a HC I would prefer my starting QB to be comfortable with the system. Maybe that's just me...

I respect that. But I would say the most uncomfortable Matt’s been in his career was in 2015-16 under Shanny.

I hope our next OC is someone who stays true to WCO and is someone willing to push the QB out of his comfort zone. 

[Mr.Blank 1,087]

Just now, Vandy said:

I respect that. But I would say the most uncomfortable Matt’s been in his career was in 2015-16 under Shanny.

I hope our next OC is someone who stays true to WCO and is someone willing to push the QB out of his comfort zone. 

Just win, baby...

[nomak 4,730]

4 hours ago, Vandy said:

Offense has disappointed the last 2 seasons under DK.

We need to win, not worry about Matt’s comfort level. 
 

Ahhh...numbers say different. We need a defense not another OC. 

[Vandy 39,759]

Just now, nomak said:

Ahhh...numbers say different. We need a defense not another OC. 

Which numbers, these? 
 

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/foplus/dvoa-database/overall-offense

With the capital we’ve invested there, 20th in offense is a travesty.

[Spts1 6,840]

There is nothing wrong with the Falcons offense that a better offensive line in the run game cannot fix. First it was Sarkisian. Now folks want to run off the coordinator that RYAN hand picked. Thats ignored for some reason...

[Sidecar Falcon 8,156]

I think Ryan would want to select a new coordinator. If Ryan had the freedom to select an OC, I doubt he would have selected Koetter. Koetter was never what was best for Ryan. That was a Quinn decision. 

[Atl Falcon 4,127]

1 hour ago, WhenFalconsWin said:

My answer is No, Ice would not want to keep Koetter.

If MR doesn’t want to keep DK I say kick him out the door ASAP but we don’t know that. Imo MR would vote to keep DK.

[falconsd56 26,525]

14 hours ago, slick0ne said:

Koetter blows...our running backs could be eating folks alive in the passing game if schemed right especially Ito. 

Not really.

Gurley is still productive but neither he nor Hill make guys miss on a consistent basis.

There have been plenty of times where both of them just had to make 1 guy miss and they could have picked up more yards.

They are more bake than shake.

We could use some more shake in the running game

[runshoot 1,382]

17 hours ago, Atl Falcon said:

This team scored 90 points 30 per gm average in the first three gms/losses...the losses didn’t have a lot to do with the OC. The defense flat out sucked giving up a 108 points during the same period. 
 

Even against Carolina MR throws a stupid int in the EZ late in the gm. It’s not all on DK. And personally I could care less if DK left tomorrow but he’s not as bad as some of y’all think. Give him a top tier RB and he’d be much better Imo

1) They did have a lot to do with the OC, because his scheme cannot run the ball. With his stupid inside dive, over and over and over, we couldnt take time off the clock. Dirk and Quinn were blasted in the media for something like 3 plays used up 11 secs and punted the ball right back to the other team and they came back and won. OC calls the plays, yeah thats on the OC

2) MR threw an INT. Did you watch the routes? The OC scheme literally did nothing to help a WR come open and thats what happens. No open WRs means balls will be contested. THIS is why having a competent OC matters. If we could scheme to run the ball, we wouldnt be forced to pass just to get a first down and hold the ball late in games. We wouldnt be forced to pass when in the red zone and we could run it in.

2) its I COULDN'T care less. By saying you could, means you actually do care.

 

[Atl Falcon 4,127]

6 minutes ago, runshoot said:

1) They did have a lot to do with the OC, because his scheme cannot run the ball. With his stupid inside dive, over and over and over, we couldnt take time off the clock. Dirk and Quinn were blasted in the media for something like 3 plays used up 11 secs and punted the ball right back to the other team and they came back and won. OC calls the plays, yeah thats on the OC

2) MR threw an INT. Did you watch the routes? The OC scheme literally did nothing to help a WR come open and thats what happens. No open WRs means balls will be contested. THIS is why having a competent OC matters. If we could scheme to run the ball, we wouldnt be forced to pass just to get a first down and hold the ball late in games. We wouldnt be forced to pass when in the red zone and we could run it in.

2) its I COULDN'T care less. By saying you could, means you actually do care.

 

My bad -  I couldn’t care less. But imo it’s not all DK and if he had a top tier RB maybe the run game would be there. Also I was thinking our WRs dropped some easy passes during that 11 secs.

I’m not letting MR off the hook up for that stupid int against the Panthers. He’s got to make better decisions. 

[Boise Falcon Fan 4,107]

1 hour ago, Spts1 said:

There is nothing wrong with the Falcons offense that a better offensive line in the run game cannot fix. First it was Sarkisian. Now folks want to run off the coordinator that RYAN hand picked. Thats ignored for some reason...

Sarkisian wasn't even that bad. Nobody likes our OC's until they leave, and then they are deified.

[Atl Falcon 4,127]

2 hours ago, Vandy said:

Which numbers, these? 
 

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/foplus/dvoa-database/overall-offense

With the capital we’ve invested there, 20th in offense is a travesty.

But the OL sucked last yr and the year before. It seems to be jelling this yr tho and with a top tier RB it would be better. 

[FalconsIn2012 35,705]

In our losses, the offense has played a role each and every time.  We seem to sputter out offensively in the 2nd half when we lose.  The numbers tell the story.

• 2nd Half PPG In Losses: 10.1

• 2nd Half PPG In Wins: 14.6

On the season we have had 29 2nd half possessions in our opponents territory.  Of those 29 drives, just 12 resulted in TD’s (our opponents scored 18TD’s in 2nd half).
 

What’s worse is what happened on the remaining  17 possessions.  On those 17 possessions in opponents territory we scored a staggeringly bad 21 points.  
 

So out of a possible 203 points on those 29 second half drives on our opponents side of the field, we came away with just 105 points.  On 35% of those drives we scored 0 points.  Terrible

[FalconsIn2012 35,705]

BAD 2nd HALF OFFENSE:

• On the season, the Falcons managed 12 TD’s and 7 FG’s on the 29 2nd half drives where they crossed mid field.

• Our opponents scored 18 TD’s and 10 FG’s on 35 2nd half drives where they crossed mid field.

[SipDirtyBird84 328]

I think Matt would want to keep him. It takes time to learn a new system and excel in it. We haven’t had an issue with the offense the last couple of games. The season has been more of an execution issue. 

[dapanch420 571]

Dirk koetter sucks by the simple fact that the offense looks great for 1 quarter then gets completely cold going 3 and out consecutively. Making the defense burn itself out early, and the other team gaining momentum and games having to go to the final possesion.  Koetter maybe was once above average but defenses have become fast, and dirk koetter lacks the creativiy to out smart defenses. Its time for him to retire and bring in a young innovative mind. Mcdaniel or arthur smith!

[Falcons Fan MVP 3,938]

3 hours ago, Atl Falcon said:

But the question by the OP was - do you think MR would want to keep DK or bring in a new OC? 
99% on here would say no lol...

I think there is a possibility Matt wants to go back to the west coast offense as he gets older.

[Falcons Fan MVP 3,938]

28 minutes ago, SipDirtyBird84 said:

I think Matt would want to keep him. It takes time to learn a new system and excel in it. We haven’t had an issue with the offense the last couple of games. The season has been more of an execution issue. 

The pandemic off-season probably has something to do with that. Some teams needs training camp more than others.

[Falcons Fan MVP 3,938]

1 hour ago, Atl Falcon said:

If MR doesn’t want to keep DK I say kick him out the door ASAP but we don’t know that. Imo MR would vote to keep DK.

Rich McKay should ask Matt if what type of offense he prefers before they interview head coaching candidates.

 

[Falcons Fan MVP 3,938]

2 hours ago, Spts1 said:

There is nothing wrong with the Falcons offense that a better offensive line in the run game cannot fix. First it was Sarkisian. Now folks want to run off the coordinator that RYAN hand picked. Thats ignored for some reason...

From what I heard Matt Ryan was not consulted in the decision to hire Dirk Koetter but I could be wrong.

[Mr.Blank 1,087]

44 minutes ago, Falcons Fan MVP said:

From what I heard Matt Ryan was not consulted in the decision to hire Dirk Koetter but I could be wrong.

If this is true it’s another validation that DQ and TD are gone. If I were a GM or HC I would at least get some input from my $30 million QB about an OC

[etherdome 6,486]

3 hours ago, Spts1 said:

There is nothing wrong with the Falcons offense that a better offensive line in the run game cannot fix. First it was Sarkisian. Now folks want to run off the coordinator that RYAN hand picked. Thats ignored for some reason...

It is often an error to let the employees choose their boss.

[Summerhill 1,842]

Ryan may have a nice familiarity with Koetter's passing game, but he has to recognize he needs more out of the running game that is probably never going to come from Koetter. 

[WhenFalconsWin 27,723]

2 hours ago, Atl Falcon said:

If MR doesn’t want to keep DK I say kick him out the door ASAP but we don’t know that. Imo MR would vote to keep DK.

I'm not friends with Matty Ice but if he reads this WFW leaves an open invitation to come fishing at my lake house on my boat. If that happens I will ask him and I'm sure he'll be honest with a 50 + year fan...I will pass along the answer to all. 

[TheTrue7 5,784]

1 hour ago, etherdome said:

It is often an error to let the employees choose their boss.

Now, come on.. do you seriously believe that MR “handpicked” him? Was it strictly his decision? Consider the pot stirred.