rednblack attack 16 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/11/18/mailbag-new-england-patriots-quarterback-cam-newton-future From the article: From Craig M (@Dolfan2334): Eric Bieniemy is expected to be the hot coaching name this offseason. Do you think he ends up in New York, Jacksonville or somewhere else? Craig, the one thing I’ve heard from a handful of people that’s gotten a little harder to ignore is the idea that Atlanta has its eyes on Bieiemy. The Falcons, obviously, are free now (with Dan Quinn gone) to vet candidates through background work and send whatever signals they want to a coach that they’ll be interested when the time comes. It’s also notable that team president Rich McKay is about as connected as it gets to the league office, which has been very out front in trying to motivate teams to hire diverse candidates for GM and coach positions. McKay is chair of the competition committee, serving on that panel with EVP of football operations Troy Vincent, who’s a leader for 345 Park Avenue on the diverse-hiring front. To be clear, I’m not saying that this is a bag job. But if anyone with a team would be sensitive to the issues the league has had and might’ve heard how Bieniemy is deserving of his shot at being a head coach in the league, it would probably be McKay. I also think owner Arthur Blank, if all other things are equal, would like to be part of the NFL’s making progress in that area. So just keep an eye on this one. Falcons Fan MVP and supercollider 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hjerry 25,652 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 "may" "the idea" So basically he knows nothing WhenFalconsWin, fuego, 1989Fan and 11 others 12 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falcons Fan MVP 3,543 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Arthur Blank did kind of hint that there was a good chance that he would bring in a minority at head coach and/or GM. If Raheem Morris wins at least 7 or 8 games I could see McKay keeping Raheem Morris. I think that the 49ers DC needs to be strongly considered as well. I personally don't want Eric Biemeny unless he has plans to keep Matt Ryan 4-5 years. Hurry_Up_And_Buy and Jthomp_26 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tl;dr 9,282 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 If we get on a roll with Morris, I may be okay keeping him. Not a gimme, but I would consider it. Biemeny is an interesting choice, but I have questions with him. Morris has been a HC before and is a lot safer, but may not have the upside of Biemeny. Pretty much I don't know if we can make a decision until we see how the season plays out. If we make a run to the playoffs, I don't see how we don't keep Morris honestly. mtldirtybird, rounz and FalconsIn2012 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atl Falcon 3,734 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Just as soon keep Morris if he finishes the season on a winning a note. Still not convinced EB not riding possibly what could be one of the best QBs of all time and a HOF HC. He should be doing a great job with all that talent. I don’t have a problem with EB and he may end up being a great choice. Just give me the best HC candidate available regardless of skin color.....that should not be a factor one way or the other. If Morris can win 5 of the remaining gms I’d just as soon keep him unless another proven HC becomes available. Jthomp_26 and jeffro2000 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falcons Fan MVP 3,543 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 29 minutes ago, rednblack attack said: https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/11/18/mailbag-new-england-patriots-quarterback-cam-newton-future From the article: From Craig M (@Dolfan2334): Eric Bieniemy is expected to be the hot coaching name this offseason. Do you think he ends up in New York, Jacksonville or somewhere else? Craig, the one thing I’ve heard from a handful of people that’s gotten a little harder to ignore is the idea that Atlanta has its eyes on Bieiemy. The Falcons, obviously, are free now (with Dan Quinn gone) to vet candidates through background work and send whatever signals they want to a coach that they’ll be interested when the time comes. It’s also notable that team president Rich McKay is about as connected as it gets to the league office, which has been very out front in trying to motivate teams to hire diverse candidates for GM and coach positions. McKay is chair of the competition committee, serving on that panel with EVP of football operations Troy Vincent, who’s a leader for 345 Park Avenue on the diverse-hiring front. To be clear, I’m not saying that this is a bag job. But if anyone with a team would be sensitive to the issues the league has had and might’ve heard how Bieniemy is deserving of his shot at being a head coach in the league, it would probably be McKay. I also think owner Arthur Blank, if all other things are equal, would like to be part of the NFL’s making progress in that area. So just keep an eye on this one. Raheem Morris could make a statement when we play KC. Jthomp_26, JDaveG, Atl Falcon and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconFanSince1970 24,076 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 I still say hire a GM first. Preferably someone who has a knack for spotting talent at the college and pro level that won't acquiesce to Blank's explosive lifetime contracts. Someone who knows how to navigate the cap. Let that guy hire his HC. Offensive, Defensive, College, Pro, Black, White, Asian, Hispanic or Native American coach. Hopefully someone adept at pregame plans and in game adjustments. Drew4719, Vandy, PokerSteve and 10 others 13 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconsIn2012 35,173 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Whenever I think of EB, I think of his awful offenses at the University of Colorado in 2011 & 2012. My God they were atrocious PokerSteve and Atl Falcon 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Smart One 309 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 22 minutes ago, tl;dr said: If we get on a roll with Morris, I may be okay keeping him. Not a gimme, but I would consider it. Biemeny is an interesting choice, but I have questions with him. Morris has been a HC before and is a lot safer, but may not have the upside of Biemeny. Pretty much I don't know if we can make a decision until we see how the season plays out. If we make a run to the playoffs, I don't see how we don't keep Morris honestly. Gotta stop going with safe on our coaching hires. Smith was safe. Quinn was pretty safe. We need coaches with big upside. It would also be ideal to not have the offense learning a new playbook every couple of years and just continuing to master one. With the current state of the defense it’s gonna be a long fix so we need to squeeze everything we can from the offense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tl;dr 9,282 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, The Smart One said: Gotta stop going with safe on our coaching hires. Smith was safe. Quinn was pretty safe. We need coaches with big upside. It would also be ideal to not have the offense learning a new playbook every couple of years and just continuing to master one. With the current state of the defense it’s gonna be a long fix so we need to squeeze everything we can from the offense. I would argue Smith and Quinn weren’t safe and were more upside hires. Neither had ever been a HC before and you hire them because you think they can become a good HC, not because they already are Vandy, etherdome, 1989Fan and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Smart One 309 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 16 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1970 said: I still say hire a GM first. Preferably someone who has a knack for spotting talent at the college and pro level that won't acquiesce to Blank's explosive lifetime contracts. Someone who knows how to navigate the cap. Let that guy hire his HC. Offensive, defensive, college, pro, Black, White, Asian or Native American coach. Why not do a coach GM pair like SF did with Shanny and Lynch supercollider 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconFanSince1970 24,076 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Just now, The Smart One said: Why not do a coach GM pair like SF did with Shanny and Lynch Lynch and Shanny are 27-31 as a tandem. 4-6 in 2020 and flaming out. Looking up at their division. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falconfansince66 3,641 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 I think the time come for the Falcons to stop being Head Coach Training Central and get a coach with experience. I've yet to see one that Blank & Company has hired be able to manage the clock and possessions which always seem to come back and bite us. Who knows, maybe we might already have him but we probably won't know that until the end of the season. etherdome 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boise Falcon Fan 3,742 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 39 minutes ago, FalconsIn2012 said: Whenever I think of EB, I think of his awful offenses at the University of Colorado in 2011 & 2012. My God they were atrocious That was a long time ago, will have much more talent to work with, and I've got to think that he has learned something from AR. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PokerSteve 26,750 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 55 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1970 said: Lynch and Shanny are 27-31 as a tandem. 4-6 in 2020 and flaming out. Looking up at their division. Lynched. RedandBlack4ever, Atl Falcon and 4dabirds 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins 1,998 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 1 hour ago, FalconFanSince1970 said: I still say hire a GM first. Preferably someone who has a knack for spotting talent at the college and pro level that won't acquiesce to Blank's explosive lifetime contracts. Someone who knows how to navigate the cap. Let that guy hire his HC. Offensive, Defensive, College, Pro, Black, White, Asian or Native American coach. Hopefully someone adept at pregame plans and in game adjustments. Agreed. I think we need a strong GM that won't be under McKay's thumb. Atl Falcon 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins 1,998 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 58 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1970 said: Lynch and Shanny are 27-31 as a tandem. 4-6 in 2020 and flaming out. Looking up at their division. I don't think they're done. Not sure other than injuries why they're struggling, but I think they'll come out of it, and I think the 49ers will be strong and relevant for years to come. If I'm wrong, here's hoping we hire Shanny should we ever get the chance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconFanSince1970 24,076 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 27 minutes ago, DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins said: I don't think they're done. Not sure other than injuries why they're struggling, but I think they'll come out of it, and I think the 49ers will be strong and relevant for years to come. If I'm wrong, here's hoping we hire Shanny should we ever get the chance. They have a QB problem. Plus a division to deal with that knows how to play Shanny. Could be losing some key pieces on the roster and coaching staff. Good luck. DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ike barn87987 1,577 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 13 minutes ago, DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins said: I don't think they're done. Not sure other than injuries why they're struggling, but I think they'll come out of it, and I think the 49ers will be strong and relevant for years to come. If I'm wrong, here's hoping we hire Shanny should we ever get the chance. Some say that Adam Peters is running the show and not Lynch. Idk. Peters with McDaniel could be a match. He’s also connected to Daboll, Martindale, Kubiak, and even Dennis Allen of the Saints. Atl Falcon and Jthomp_26 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DirtyBird2 1,024 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Atl Falcon said: Just as soon keep Morris if he finishes the season on a winning a note. Still not convinced EB not riding possibly what could be one of the best QBs of all time and a HOF HC. He should be doing a great job with all that talent. I don’t have a problem with EB and he may end up being a great choice. Just give me the best HC candidate available regardless of skin color.....that should not be a factor one way or the other. If Morris can win 5 of the remaining gms I’d just as soon keep him unless another proven HC becomes available. It's not just random people talking out their A's though, people around the league agree that he is going to be a great coach. Just like I think Quinn brought some of our players down, I think EB may bring them up. I've done an awful lot of reading on him and have been swayed (I didn't originally want him for the same reasons you say). I also like the idea of Brady after reading what the league says about him too Atl Falcon and Jthomp_26 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atl Falcon 3,734 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 1 hour ago, DirtyBird2 said: It's not just random people talking out their A's though, people around the league agree that he is going to be a great coach. Just like I think Quinn brought some of our players down, I think EB may bring them up. I've done an awful lot of reading on him and have been swayed (I didn't originally want him for the same reasons you say). I also like the idea of Brady after reading what the league says about him too YeahI like Brady but EB to me is a TUFF read. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KCFalcon22 780 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 As a Falcons Fan 1st and a Chiefs fan 2nd here's my wish list. GM: Mike Borgonzi HC: Eric Bieniemy 2nd GM: Louis Reddick HC: Eric Bieniemy ike barn87987 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ike barn87987 1,577 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 13 minutes ago, KCFalcon22 said: As a Falcons Fan 1st and a Chiefs fan 2nd here's my wish list. GM: Mike Borgonzi HC: Eric Bieniemy 2nd GM: Louis Reddick HC: Eric Bieniemy I’ll take either of the two. But my top choice is Borgonzi with Smith/Sirianni. KCFalcon22 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KCFalcon22 780 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 1 minute ago, ike barn87987 said: I’ll take either of the two. But my top choice is Borgonzi with Smith/Sirianni. I'm being a real homer with both of those picks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ike barn87987 1,577 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Just now, KCFalcon22 said: I'm being a real homer with both of those picks They are good matches tho for real. Another name to look out for as GM is John Spytek. He could pair with Daboll, Eberflus, Martindale, Bieniemy, or Sirianni. KCFalcon22 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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