AUTiger7222 6,238 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Ergo Proxy said: Or maybe all people are wrong at sometimes because we all have been? Besides, Falcons could have IR’d him and said go home and possibly gotten something from comp pick process. Projecting not having him sign for anything possibly leading to a comp pick is the only reason to cut him instead of IR from a pure capital approach; seeing as he was not tradable. I can fully admit I'm wrong and I do it all the time. The problem is the group on here that bash everything the Falcons do because "they're smarter and know better" than the people running things. That's the problem. It's the same group that ***** and moan and complain about every single thing the Falcons do and when they are proven to be absolutely 110% they can't admit that they're wrong and not as smart as they think they are. Like I said before, getting rid of a bad apple that was causing issues in the locker room is MORE IMPORTANT than some lousy 6th round pick. The vast majority of 6th round picks never even play in a real NFL game. People are acting like we could have gotten a 3rd or 4th for Takk when that's clearly not the case. He's gonna sign some 1 year deal somewhere and more than likely get hurt AGAIN and play only a handful of games and not even qualify for a comp pick. They only hand out 32 or so comp picks every year and on field production is a major part of the formula. People are forgetting how bad of a player Takk is when he's actually on the field. Doesn't surprise me since he's rarely ever on the field. gtech1, gkgrimes, vitaman and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vandy 38,879 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 2 hours ago, stizz said: Blank and Quinn have once again deprived the team of competitive football by having the team essentially eliminated from playoff contention by October. Let the fans vent. Draft season is fun, but not so much when you're doing scouting reports before the year ends. You’re a funny one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ergo Proxy 25,243 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 @AUTiger7222Disagree strongly. Takk on the field was still our best DE. Trouble is his injury history as you say. If it weren’t for that, he’d probably have a better market if he were to hit UFA next year if we didn’t cut him. Yeah, Takk sorta forced the Falcons hand and there aren’t many “guaranteed” comp picks necessarily, but they did remove all chance of having a shot. I mean, just look at all the teams trying to get him off waivers; even with his injury history. He was a far more effective player than Vic Beasley and Vic is netting us a comp pick. Injuries could push him to a 1 year prove it deal but even Vic basically got that because pass rushers get paid. And, we are due I believe a 5th if we are awarded for him. So, from a pure capital management standpoint it’s a sacrifice to make the statement. 6th rounders do matter. Takk could have been on IR and sent home. Just saying... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vandy 38,879 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ergo Proxy said: @AUTiger7222Disagree strongly. Takk on the field was still our best DE. He was? 😎 AUTiger7222 and Ergo Proxy 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AUTiger7222 6,238 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 15 minutes ago, Ergo Proxy said: @AUTiger7222Disagree strongly. Takk on the field was still our best DE. Trouble is his injury history as you say. If it weren’t for that, he’d probably have a better market if he were to hit UFA next year if we didn’t cut him. Yeah, Takk sorta forced the Falcons hand and there aren’t many “guaranteed” comp picks necessarily, but they did remove all chance of having a shot. I mean, just look at all the teams trying to get him off waivers; even with his injury history. He was a far more effective player than Vic Beasley and Vic is netting us a comp pick. Injuries could push him to a 1 year prove it deal but even Vic basically got that because pass rushers get paid. And, we are due I believe a 5th if we are awarded for him. So, from a pure capital management standpoint it’s a sacrifice to make the statement. 6th rounders do matter. Takk could have been on IR and sent home. Just saying... Takk has only played in 4 games this year. If he only plays in 4 games next year he won't get the Falcons a comp pick. Also, last time I checked comp picks for the 2021 NFL draft have yet to be announced. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AUTiger7222 6,238 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 13 minutes ago, Vandy said: He was? 😎 He was. For 1 whole game. That Seattle game was fun. Too bad that was it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ergo Proxy 25,243 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 21 minutes ago, Vandy said: He was? 😎 Watch out now! Vandy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ergo Proxy 25,243 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 14 minutes ago, AUTiger7222 said: Takk has only played in 4 games this year. If he only plays in 4 games next year he won't get the Falcons a comp pick. Also, last time I checked comp picks for the 2021 NFL draft have yet to be announced. Projections are usually on the right track; especially now later in the season. You might miss the cut if it looks to be fringe already or a round may change but we pretty much are getting 3 picks unless something happens unexpectedly. Already agreed on his injury trouble. In a handful of plays, Takk made more impact than Fowler as a rusher...who also has injury trouble. The core issue for Takk has been physical health. It’s sad to see it turn his character more sour. I don’t think he came in the league this way but it’s primed to go south with the generation growing up now and it sounds like his background was tough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mescalito 1,691 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 40 minutes ago, Ergo Proxy said: @AUTiger7222Disagree strongly. Takk on the field was still our best DE. Trouble is his injury history as you say. If it weren’t for that, he’d probably have a better market if he were to hit UFA next year if we didn’t cut him. Yeah, Takk sorta forced the Falcons hand and there aren’t many “guaranteed” comp picks necessarily, but they did remove all chance of having a shot. I mean, just look at all the teams trying to get him off waivers; even with his injury history. He was a far more effective player than Vic Beasley and Vic is netting us a comp pick. Injuries could push him to a 1 year prove it deal but even Vic basically got that because pass rushers get paid. And, we are due I believe a 5th if we are awarded for him. So, from a pure capital management standpoint it’s a sacrifice to make the statement. 6th rounders do matter. Takk could have been on IR and sent home. Just saying... We are getting a comp pick for Beasley? Didn't the Titans cut him? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
athell 30,444 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 56 minutes ago, Ergo Proxy said: Or maybe everyone is wrong sometimes because we all have been? That’s a little less harsh to me. Besides, Falcons could have IR’d him and said go home and possibly gotten something from comp pick process. Projecting not having him sign for anything possibly leading to a comp pick is the only reason to cut him instead of IR from a pure capital approach; seeing as he was not tradable. Valuing making a statement over a possible 6th rounder... Yep! Ergo Proxy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
athell 30,444 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, Mescalito said: We are getting a comp pick for Beasley? Didn't the Titans cut him? Yep. 5th. Ergo Proxy and Mescalito 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mescalito 1,691 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Just now, athell said: Yep. 5th. lol. Wow! I'll take it! Not real sure how that works but I'm ok with it. Ergo Proxy and athell 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
athell 30,444 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Just now, Mescalito said: lol. Wow! I'll take it! Not real sure how that works but I'm ok with it. If the players we lose to free agency sign contracts for more than the players we sign in free agency, we get comp picks. The more the outgoing players make than the incoming the higher the comp pick. Mescalito 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mescalito 1,691 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 I have a cold and am on some cold medicine and I think it's messing with me cause I've honestly forgotten how comp picks work now. athell and Ergo Proxy 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mescalito 1,691 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 minute ago, athell said: If the players we lose to free agency sign contracts for more than the players we sign in free agency, we get comp picks. The more the outgoing players make than the incoming the higher the comp pick. Haha. Oh yeah. athell 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
athell 30,444 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Just now, Mescalito said: I have a cold and am on some cold medicine and I think it's messing with me cause I've honestly forgotten how comp picks work now. Here's a good breakdown if you are conscious enough lol https://overthecap.com/the-basics-and-methodology-of-projecting-the-nfls-compensatory-draft-picks/ Mescalito, RING OF HONOR and Ergo Proxy 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Draftnut57 4,024 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Please stop reminding me.. I've been trying to forget that Draft. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1989Fan 15,161 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Bring him home TD?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stizz 5,503 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 5 hours ago, Vandy said: You’re a funny one. Truth hurts man. Vandy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Xyfiel 634 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 5 hours ago, Ergo Proxy said: So, from a pure capital management standpoint it’s a sacrifice to make the statement. 6th rounders do matter. Takk could have been on IR and sent home. Just saying... You are doing exactly what he is talking about from the other Takk threads, speculating. There are rules in place for injuries. Could Takk have been put on IR? None of us know the extent of his injury. Plus no one knows what Takk did or said behind closed doors after he was fined. There are many things in play here that none of us know. Vandy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1989Fan 15,161 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Let’s see if the Browns and Raiders put claims in for him a 3rd time. 😂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vandy 38,879 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 6 hours ago, stizz said: Truth hurts man. 🤪 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Day1 78 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 On 11/17/2020 at 11:04 PM, Black Francis said: You have experience? Navy? Stewart Avenue? FA91 and Andrews_31 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ergo Proxy 25,243 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 12 hours ago, Xyfiel said: You are doing exactly what he is talking about from the other Takk threads, speculating. There are rules in place for injuries. Could Takk have been put on IR? None of us know the extent of his injury. Plus no one knows what Takk did or said behind closed doors after he was fined. There are many things in play here that none of us know. And that’s why the forums exist. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Day1 78 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 20 hours ago, Ergo Proxy said: @AUTiger7222Disagree strongly. Takk on the field was still our best DE. Trouble is his injury history as you say. If it weren’t for that, he’d probably have a better market if he were to hit UFA next year if we didn’t cut him. Yeah, Takk sorta forced the Falcons hand and there aren’t many “guaranteed” comp picks necessarily, but they did remove all chance of having a shot. I mean, just look at all the teams trying to get him off waivers; even with his injury history. He was a far more effective player than Vic Beasley and Vic is netting us a comp pick. Injuries could push him to a 1 year prove it deal but even Vic basically got that because pass rushers get paid. And, we are due I believe a 5th if we are awarded for him. So, from a pure capital management standpoint it’s a sacrifice to make the statement. 6th rounders do matter. Takk could have been on IR and sent home. Just saying... look at all the teams trying to get him off waivers....All 2 of them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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