athell 30,536 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Long thread that tweet is embedded in, but OTC is updating their comp pick expectations and DC went from a 6th to a 5th which is kinda cool. AUTiger7222, FalconsIn2012, Ergo Proxy and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Snozberies17 63 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 I haven't watched any ARZ games yet this year — guessing he is playing pretty good if the comp is moving up a round. Anyone seen him play? Is Arizona using him differently than we were? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
primetime 1,044 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 28 minutes ago, Snozberies17 said: I haven't watched any ARZ games yet this year — guessing he is playing pretty good if the comp is moving up a round. Anyone seen him play? Is Arizona using him differently than we were? Watch the cards v bills game. Great game and amazing finish in an otherwise horrible week of games. Cards use Campbell inside and he is a solid yet unspectacular mlb for them. Pretty much the same as what he was here except we used him outside. Tbh letting him go was a good thing and I’ll credit TD because Foye is a much better difference maker at Olb and like Hurst is a cheaper upgrade with more upside than his predecessor Tim Mazetti, PokerSteve, papachaz and 9 others 11 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
athell 30,536 Posted November 17, 2020 Author Share Posted November 17, 2020 49 minutes ago, Snozberies17 said: I haven't watched any ARZ games yet this year — guessing he is playing pretty good if the comp is moving up a round. Anyone seen him play? Is Arizona using him differently than we were? He seems pretty much the same to me, I live down in Az now and have seen most of their games. He flashes here and there but mostly goes unnoticed. Like primetime said, not sad he was let walk. papachaz, PokerSteve, Snozberies17 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atlantafan21 10,582 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 So does anyone know if Beasley nets us nothing now that he’s been cut? Nice to see Campbell might get us a 5th, but Beasley was the one that was gonna get us a pretty good pick. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fernando C. 949 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 So we would have 2 5th rounders from Vic and Campbell and a 6th from Wes.. that would be a great... now we need a GM that can find talent in those rounds... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
athell 30,536 Posted November 17, 2020 Author Share Posted November 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, Atlantafan21 said: So does anyone know if Beasley nets us nothing now that he’s been cut? Nice to see Campbell might get us a 5th, but Beasley was the one that was gonna get us a pretty good pick. We still get the comp for Vic. Not for Takk. papachaz, PokerSteve and Atlantafan21 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GrimeyKidd 1,211 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 3 hours ago, Snozberies17 said: I haven't watched any ARZ games yet this year — guessing he is playing pretty good if the comp is moving up a round. Anyone seen him play? Is Arizona using him differently than we were? I know not to put too much stock into pff grades but he has a 49.8 grade on the season Quote Link to post Share on other sites
primetime 1,044 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 12 hours ago, GrimeyKidd said: I know not to put too much stock into pff grades but he has a 49.8 grade on the season I hate to say this but he seems to have a classic case of the Brookings - lots of pile on tackles which are good for the stat sheets but not really effective overall. I really didn’t mind Keith overall but I also never got him confused with The Hammer. Foye is easily outplaying him this year and is hands down our most improved player on last year. vitaman, papachaz, PokerSteve and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1989Fan 15,174 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Glad we let him go to make room for Foye. Honestly Walker may also be better. Good decision on all the guys the team didn’t re-sign. Ergo Proxy, AUTiger7222, Osiruz and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
direwolf 1,001 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 4 hours ago, primetime said: I hate to say this but he seems to have a classic case of the Brookings - lots of pile on tackles which are good for the stat sheets but not really effective overall. I really didn’t mind Keith overall but I also never got him confused with The Hammer. Foye is easily outplaying him this year and is hands down our most improved player on last year. Don't mean to derail, but always wondered where that notion about Brooking came from. Per Pro-Football-Reference, for his career he was greater than 3:1 solos:assists in the tackle column and went to five Pro Bowls. He was a very good linebacker. blizzard_falcon, Osiruz and AUTiger7222 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jpg428gggg 1,638 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 26 minutes ago, direwolf said: Don't mean to derail, but always wondered where that notion about Brooking came from. Per Pro-Football-Reference, for his career he was greater than 3:1 solos:assists in the tackle column and went to five Pro Bowls. He was a very good linebacker. People forget how good he was for us because of how he looked towards the end of his career. Everyone remembers the play vs. Arizona in the playoffs and add on the fact that he went to the Cowboys and celebrated after making a big play. The guy was a very good player for us and played his butt off while here. No complaints here. AUTiger7222, mtldirtybird and vitaman 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Xfactor 3,989 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 I'll take Foye all day AUTiger7222, Dr Long Shot, PokerSteve and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vel 32,037 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 I remember people swearing Campbell was a good LB here. He is athletic with very little awareness. Every time Foye stepped in the game, he looked better because he just didn't do stupid stuff. So glad they didn't bring 59 back. AUTiger7222, papachaz, Ergo Proxy and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Snozberies17 63 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 38 minutes ago, Jpg428gggg said: People forget how good he was for us because of how he looked towards the end of his career. Everyone remembers the play vs. Arizona in the playoffs and add on the fact that he went to the Cowboys and celebrated after making a big play. The guy was a very good player for us and played his butt off while here. No complaints here. Guilty as charged! I still wake up with nightmares of Brookings biting on that 3rd down.... I need help. Like Austin Hooper, I really like Campbell and will continue to hope good things come their way. Definitely the right decision to let them walk. primetime and PokerSteve 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jpg428gggg 1,638 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 4 hours ago, vel said: I remember people swearing Campbell was a good LB here. He is athletic with very little awareness. Every time Foye stepped in the game, he looked better because he just didn't do stupid stuff. So glad they didn't bring 59 back. Yeah, it was funny because that was the knock on him coming out of school. I drank the coolaid on him and thought he was way better than he was. With Foye starting now, it is easier to realize how much of a problem Campbell was. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Osiruz 10,079 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 On 11/17/2020 at 1:40 PM, primetime said: Watch the cards v bills game. Great game and amazing finish in an otherwise horrible week of games. Cards use Campbell inside and he is a solid yet unspectacular mlb for them. Pretty much the same as what he was here except we used him outside. Tbh letting him go was a good thing and I’ll credit TD because Foye is a much better difference maker at Olb and like Hurst is a cheaper upgrade with more upside than his predecessor Also the LBer we drafted this year wasn't too shabby either, so I'll take that fifth rounder. One of the better decisions TD made. Thing with Campbell is he made alot of stupid decisions and we had a simple playbook. primetime and PokerSteve 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Osiruz 10,079 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 4 hours ago, vel said: I remember people swearing Campbell was a good LB here. He is athletic with very little awareness. Every time Foye stepped in the game, he looked better because he just didn't do stupid stuff. So glad they didn't bring 59 back. Mostly Athell, Ovie, and FFS1970 lol...he pissed me off with all the blown coverages, and missed tackles. Do not miss. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vel 32,037 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 20 minutes ago, Osiruz said: Mostly Athell, Ovie, and FFS1970 lol...he pissed me off with all the blown coverages, and missed tackles. Do not miss. Yep. He can't read a key to save his life. But loves talking trash on social media... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Long Shot 3,787 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 (edited) On 11/17/2020 at 1:08 PM, Snozberies17 said: I haven't watched any ARZ games yet this year — guessing he is playing pretty good if the comp is moving up a round. Anyone seen him play? Is Arizona using him differently than we were? He's been the same as he was here. Not much of an impact guy IMO, struggles in coverage isn't much of a factor against the run. I've watched like three Cards games and haven't really noticed him at all. Edited November 19, 2020 by Dr Long Shot Vandy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Long Shot 3,787 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 7 hours ago, Jpg428gggg said: People forget how good he was for us because of how he looked towards the end of his career. Everyone remembers the play vs. Arizona in the playoffs and add on the fact that he went to the Cowboys and celebrated after making a big play. The guy was a very good player for us and played his butt off while here. No complaints here. I think even at his peak he was just a tad overrated by the media. Still, super solid LBer for the Falcons for a long time, and yea, he wasn't as good after he turned 30 and a lot of people remember those lesser years and forget dude made so many plays for so many years before that... then the shenanigans after he left just pretty much cemented the poor reputation he had built up the last few years of his career. Still you look at his career objectively and he's basically Jessie Tuggle. Sad that one is loved and the other disregarded or hated. Jpg428gggg 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vel 32,037 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Jpg428gggg said: Yeah, it was funny because that was the knock on him coming out of school. I drank the coolaid on him and thought he was way better than he was. With Foye starting now, it is easier to realize how much of a problem Campbell was. So much of a problem. It's fine as a rookie, because they were rookie mistakes. But when he was a 3rd and 4th year vet making the same mistakes, I cooled on him quickly. Ergo Proxy, AUTiger7222, Rings and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Long Shot 3,787 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 For whatever it's worth PFF has Campbell rated as 49 and Trufant rated at 41. Both should be amongst the very worst grades at their respective positions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jetpac 273 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 On 11/17/2020 at 2:58 PM, athell said: He seems pretty much the same to me, I live down in Az now and have seen most of their games. He flashes here and there but mostly goes unnoticed. Like primetime said, not sad he was let walk. He's been very solid for them. Not a playmaker though Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jpg428gggg 1,638 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 3 hours ago, Dr Long Shot said: I think even at his peak he was just a tad overrated by the media. Still, super solid LBer for the Falcons for a long time, and yea, he wasn't as good after he turned 30 and a lot of people remember those lesser years and forget dude made so many plays for so many years before that... then the shenanigans after he left just pretty much cemented the poor reputation he had built up the last few years of his career. Still you look at his career objectively and he's basically Jessie Tuggle. Sad that one is loved and the other disregarded or hated. Yeah, he probably was. He was a great story though. Local kid who wasn’t really recruited and walked on at GT. Worked his tail off and became a 1st round pick for his home team. He was the type of player that everyone could rally around. His weaknesses were highlighted more because we have never been able to build a defense. No matter the coaching staff our defense has been towards the bottom half of the league. Dr Long Shot 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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