athell 31,366 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 30 minutes ago, JD dirtybird21 said: His ONLY experience as a HC is good. He left San Fran because of disagreements with the GM. I know plenty of Niner fans who were soooooo pissed when he left. I just don't want him because he is annoying af as a person. His schtick would get so old here so quick. Then again if he could actually produce, the fanbase would probably love him like the Saints love Payton so I dunno. I just find him incredibly annoying. Like nails on a chalkboard annoying. A Dog Named Brian and JD dirtybird21 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CraigSmackDaddy 2,002 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 10 hours ago, JD dirtybird21 said: If you want to go all in and try and win with Ryan and Julio (which financially makes the most sense) then Harbaugh is actually a good choice. He’s a guy that will be successful early but his window is 2-3 years tops. That’s exactly the Ryan and Julio window right now too. You know I haven’t been on the hire Harbaugh train but I gotta admit that a few of you guys have made pretty good arguments and are swaying my opinion a bit, this is the best one. I will say that I would much rather have a proven NFL head coach, yes one that didn’t do great at a previous stop if necessary, over a first year head coach. The main reason for that is because of the window that I personally feel is still open. A first year HC is gonna have a learning curve that a proven one should already be aware of. Yeah I know you are what your record is but the Falcons really should be 6-3 right now and making a push for the playoffs so I’m not buying that we need to blow the team up. At this point I’d take Harbaugh over some of the other names I’ve heard like Bienemy. Not that EB can’t get it done and won’t get an opportunity, I think he will and probably with the Texans. Vandy, AUTiger7222 and JD dirtybird21 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonOfThemBirds 18,416 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 8 minutes ago, athell said: I just don't want him because he is annoying af as a person. His schtick would get so old here so quick. Then again if he could actually produce, the fanbase would probably love him like the Saints love Payton so I dunno. I just find him incredibly annoying. Like nails on a chalkboard annoying. If Harbaugh can annoy the **** out of Payton, then hire him now lol. athell and VTCrunkler 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JD dirtybird21 22,397 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 3 hours ago, CraigSmackDaddy said: You know I haven’t been on the hire Harbaugh train but I gotta admit that a few of you guys have made pretty good arguments and are swaying my opinion a bit, this is the best one. I will say that I would much rather have a proven NFL head coach, yes one that didn’t do great at a previous stop if necessary, over a first year head coach. The main reason for that is because of the window that I personally feel is still open. A first year HC is gonna have a learning curve that a proven one should already be aware of. Yeah I know you are what your record is but the Falcons really should be 6-3 right now and making a push for the playoffs so I’m not buying that we need to blow the team up. At this point I’d take Harbaugh over some of the other names I’ve heard like Bienemy. Not that EB can’t get it done and won’t get an opportunity, I think he will and probably with the Texans. Exactly. Just look at the track record. Including Michigan. Harbaugh has won immediately everywhere he has gone. His issue is that it wears off over time though. But if the Falcons really want to try and win NOW with Ryan, Harbaugh is a good choice. He would make this team a playoff team next season. AUTiger7222 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
octoslash 18,142 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 12 hours ago, A Dog Named Brian said: We had a derivative of him that was just fired earlier this season after an 0-5 start Not to mention the other derivative we had from 2004 through 2006. NO MORE RAH-RAH MEDIOCRITY! A Dog Named Brian 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JD dirtybird21 22,397 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 19 minutes ago, athell said: I just don't want him because he is annoying af as a person. His schtick would get so old here so quick. Then again if he could actually produce, the fanbase would probably love him like the Saints love Payton so I dunno. I just find him incredibly annoying. Like nails on a chalkboard annoying. AUTiger7222 and athell 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonOfThemBirds 18,416 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 25 minutes ago, UK13 said: Your right , he's not a rah rah guy .... he's the opposite.... i always considered him more along the lines of a tom Coughlin type .... doesnt play games .... He isn't serious and brutal as Coughlin. Players find it very difficult to play for Coughlin. Players like Harbaugh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
athell 31,366 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 1 minute ago, JD dirtybird21 said: I will concede he may be one of those "if he is your guy you love him but otherwise you hate him" personalities. Like I said in our talk, if a brief window for Matt and Julio is the idea it wouldn't be a terrible idea. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JD dirtybird21 22,397 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 1 minute ago, DonOfThemBirds said: He isn't serious and brutal as Coughlin. Players find it very difficult to play for Coughlin. Players like Harbaugh. Yea...Harbaugh seems difficult to work with from an owners and front office perspective, but not a players perspective. DonOfThemBirds 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JD dirtybird21 22,397 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Just now, athell said: I will concede he may be one of those "if he is your guy you love him but otherwise you hate him" personalities. Like I said in our talk, if a brief window for Matt and Julio is the idea it wouldn't be a terrible idea. That's honestly where I'm at with it man. Otherwise, I wouldn't be interested. And my family is all niner fans and they loved Harbaugh...and admitted they HATED him when the team announced they had hired him...lol...so you are spot on with your perception here athell 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Butudontseeme™ 9,929 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 I really don’t understand what people like about this guy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VTCrunkler 9,105 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 42 minutes ago, athell said: His schtick would get so old here so quick. kinda like embrace the suck? and iron sharpens iron athell and RING OF HONOR 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
athell 31,366 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 1 minute ago, VTCrunkler said: kinda like embrace the suck? and iron sharpens iron I threw up a little in my mouth... Plus I can't get behind a guy THAT into khaki's. VTCrunkler 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Halcon-1 2,643 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 13 hours ago, Snafu said: Stick around a while longer, you'll quickly realize that the overwhelming majority of posters on this board have absolutely no idea WTH they are talking about. about 98% of this board wanted to pass on Matt Ryan to draft Glen Dorsey and Brian Brohm. QFT!! The first point is why I stay out of the arguments about GMs and head coaches. . . . armchair GMs and head coaches. I remember it as 99.5%. I thought they were going to show up at Flowery Branch with pitchforks and torches after we drafted Ryan. Where are Dorsey and Brohm now? The same ones now view Ryan as the golden child of the franchise. AUTiger7222 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
celtiksage 1,901 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 11 hours ago, DonOfThemBirds said: Personally, I don't really have a preference of who should be the new Falcons HC. If Harbaugh was hired, I'd support him despite me being on the fence about him. Same here DonOfThemBirds 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
celtiksage 1,901 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 I'd be more inclined to go with Bob Stoops, Brian Kelly or Jimbo Fisher if we could lure them out of the college ranks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonOfThemBirds 18,416 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 1 hour ago, JD dirtybird21 said: Yea...Harbaugh seems difficult to work with from an owners and front office perspective, but not a players perspective. Yep Coughlin is also extremely strict. Doesn't take much to get on his **** list or in his doghouse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JD dirtybird21 22,397 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 51 minutes ago, athell said: I threw up a little in my mouth... Plus I can't get behind a guy THAT into khaki's. athell 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonOfThemBirds 18,416 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 55 minutes ago, athell said: I threw up a little in my mouth... Plus I can't get behind a guy THAT into khaki's. What's wrong with khaki's? My fear is turtlenecks. I get all OCD when something like that is around my entire neck. Can't understand why people like to wear them and be comfortable with it on. athell 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kiwifalcon 19,369 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 4 hours ago, TheUsualStuff said: Rich McKay is going to be involved in the hiring process and Rich McKay is not going to hire Jim Harbaugh. I don't know why the discussion really got beyond that. This. McKay if he has influence in this process do we really think Jim Harbaugh is a realistic option.I just don’t.He seemingly is Arthur’s eyes and ears when it comes to football decisions as big as this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ovie_Lover 29,577 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 13 hours ago, Is This What You Want? said: Keep that milk drinker out of our state.. Weak boned boy JD dirtybird21 and 1989Fan 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ovie_Lover 29,577 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 13 hours ago, Redjack said: Y’all who think Harbaugh is a “cheerleader” are hilarious. Then you turn around and say he’s “grating” and “no one likes him” because he didn’t get along with his owner. Meanwhile a handful of his players up and retired after he was fired. Can’t have it both ways. Jim Harbaugh is the most opposite of a “cheerleader” as you can get. What reality are y’all living in? Who retired because he was fired? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonOfThemBirds 18,416 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 7 minutes ago, kiwifalcon said: This. McKay if he has influence in this process do we really think Jim Harbaugh is a realistic option.I just don’t.He seemingly is Arthur’s eyes and ears when it comes to football decisions as big as this. Also, McKay has friends all over the league. If some of his friends were a part of that FO that ousted Harbaugh in SF, then he may not have a shot at getting a job in Atlanta. kiwifalcon 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ovie_Lover 29,577 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 13 hours ago, DonOfThemBirds said: He's won games as an NFL HC. My biggest worry is his sustainability. Yes he had much success his first few seasons in SF, but it quickly took a turn for the worst after that. I mean his worst season was 8-8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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