FalconsIn2012 35,693 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 The more I dig into Ryan’s numbers this year and how he is getting them, the more impressed I become. I can’t lie, this is impressive for a “game manager” who “needs everything to be perfect in order to succeed.” This is pretty dang impressive. The data below shows we are running a Coryell scheme again. Tons of intended/completed air yards and minimal YAC. Ryan is getting few easy check downs to boost/pad his stats. The fact Ryan has a 67% completion rate and just 4 INT’s despite making longer, more difficult throws than any other quarterback is incredible. You’ll notice Koetter & Arians offense are 1st & 2nd in the NFL intended snd completed air yards by a large number. Another reason I dislike the offense. Requires your QB to be special in order to win Glossary: (IAY) Intended air yards - Air yards on all pass attempts, whether completed or incomplete (CAY) Completed air yards - Total yards completed passes traveled in the air past the line of scrimmage before being caught • Josh A. (9 Games) IAY: 2,569 CAY: 1,540 • Phillip R. (9) IAY: 1,969 CAY: 1,245 • Aaron R. (8): IAY 2,325 CAY: 1,298 • Patrick M. (9): IAY 2,590 CAY: 1,361 • Russell W (8): IAY: 2,654. CAY: 1,511 • Brees (9): IAY: 1,508 CAY: 1,059 • Tom Brady (9): IAY: 3,018. CAY: 1,512 • Matt Ryan (9): IAY: 3,069. CAY: 1,801 Drew4719, Slimm, Rings and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MSalmon 10,998 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Good analysis, my friend. You’re right in a low percentage type offense, he’s making some difficult throws with minimal mistakes there goes the noodle arm argument I still;; hate this offense lol kiwifalcon, Drew4719, FalconsIn2012 and 3 others 5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kiwifalcon 19,400 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Interesting watching Philip Rivers tonight in that same age bracket mobility compromised biggest difference is how quickly the ball is out. Personally I look at what we have WRer wise I would think we could run pretty much run what we liked a multitude of route combos. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconsIn2012 35,693 Posted November 13, 2020 Author Share Posted November 13, 2020 59 minutes ago, FalconsIn2012 said: The more I dig into Ryan’s numbers this year and how he is getting them, the more impressed I become. I can’t lie, this is impressive for a “game manager” who “needs everything to be perfect in order to succeed.” This is pretty dang impressive. The data below shows we are running a Coryell scheme again. Tons of intended/completed air yards and minimal YAC. Ryan is getting few easy check downs to boost/pad his stats. The fact Ryan has a 67% completion rate and just 4 INT’s despite making longer, more difficult throws than any other quarterback is incredible. You’ll notice Koetter & Arians offense are 1st & 2nd in the NFL intended snd completed air yards by a large number. Another reason I dislike the offense. Requires your QB to be special in order to win Glossary: (IAY) Intended air yards - Air yards on all pass attempts, whether completed or incomplete (CAY) Completed air yards - Total yards completed passes traveled in the air past the line of scrimmage before being caught • Josh A. (9 Games) IAY: 2,569 CAY: 1,540 • Phillip R. (9) IAY: 1,969 CAY: 1,245 • Aaron R. (8): IAY 2,325 CAY: 1,298 • Patrick M. (9): IAY 2,590 CAY: 1,361 • Russell W (8): IAY: 2,654. CAY: 1,511 • Brees (9): IAY: 1,508 CAY: 1,059 • Tom Brady (9): IAY: 3,018. CAY: 1,512 • Matt Ryan (9): IAY: 3,069. CAY: 1,801 Pressure, Accuracy & Bad Throw% • Brees: 83% on target; 12.6% bad throws with 13% pressure rate & 31 Hits • Ryan: 78% on target: 14% bad throws l with 23% pressure & 31 Hits • Rivers: 75% on target; 17.7% bad throws with 13% pressure & 15 Hits • Wilson: 81% on target; 14.7% bad throws with 25% pressure & 32 Hits • Rodgers: 77% on target; 19% bad throws with 14% pressure & 14 Hits • Mahomes77% on target; 20% bad throws with 20% pressure & 25 Hits • Brady: 74% on target; 17% bad throws with 18% pressure & 30 hits • Allen: 81% on target; 14.7% bad throws with 21% pressure and 30 hits Ergo Proxy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ergo Proxy 25,926 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 13 hours ago, MSalmon said: Good analysis, my friend. You’re right in a low percentage type offense, he’s making some difficult throws with minimal mistakes there goes the noodle arm argument I still;; hate this offense lol But look how it opens up the run game! /massive S Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pacific_Falcon 4,641 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 14 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said: The more I dig into Ryan’s numbers this year and how he is getting them, the more impressed I become. I can’t lie, this is impressive for a “game manager” who “needs everything to be perfect in order to succeed.” This is pretty dang impressive. The data below shows we are running a Coryell scheme again. Tons of intended/completed air yards and minimal YAC. Ryan is getting few easy check downs to boost/pad his stats. The fact Ryan has a 67% completion rate and just 4 INT’s despite making longer, more difficult throws than any other quarterback is incredible. You’ll notice Koetter & Arians offense are 1st & 2nd in the NFL intended snd completed air yards by a large number. Another reason I dislike the offense. Requires your QB to be special in order to win Glossary: (IAY) Intended air yards - Air yards on all pass attempts, whether completed or incomplete (CAY) Completed air yards - Total yards completed passes traveled in the air past the line of scrimmage before being caught • Josh A. (9 Games) IAY: 2,569 CAY: 1,540 • Phillip R. (9) IAY: 1,969 CAY: 1,245 • Aaron R. (8): IAY 2,325 CAY: 1,298 • Patrick M. (9): IAY 2,590 CAY: 1,361 • Russell W (8): IAY: 2,654. CAY: 1,511 • Brees (9): IAY: 1,508 CAY: 1,059 • Tom Brady (9): IAY: 3,018. CAY: 1,512 • Matt Ryan (9): IAY: 3,069. CAY: 1,801 Drew Brees: king of the shuttle pass. Ergo Proxy and FalconsIn2012 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pacific_Falcon 4,641 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 13 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said: Pressure, Accuracy & Bad Throw% • Brees: 83% on target; 12.6% bad throws with 13% pressure rate & 31 Hits • Ryan: 78% on target: 14% bad throws l with 23% pressure & 31 Hits • Rivers: 75% on target; 17.7% bad throws with 13% pressure & 15 Hits • Wilson: 81% on target; 14.7% bad throws with 25% pressure & 32 Hits • Rodgers: 77% on target; 19% bad throws with 14% pressure & 14 Hits • Mahomes77% on target; 20% bad throws with 20% pressure & 25 Hits • Brady: 74% on target; 17% bad throws with 18% pressure & 30 hits • Allen: 81% on target; 14.7% bad throws with 21% pressure and 30 hits Interesting Ryan has very similar numbers to an MVP candidate in Wilson. We have some good speed, a WCO would be great for guys like Julio who are very physical after the catch. The trick obviously is to hit them in stride consistently. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ergo Proxy 25,926 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, Pacific_Falcon said: Interesting Ryan has very similar numbers to an MVP candidate in Wilson. We have some good speed, a WCO would be great for guys like Julio who are very physical after the catch. The trick obviously is to hit them in stride consistently. We’ve already seen this offense peak in that system and hitting on shots wasn’t a problem. Ryan is deadly in that 10-25 yard range for what Kyle installed here. That’s where YAC come in. We would hit the shots we took because they were more timed and rhythm based as the offense was less clunky. Dirk’s routes aren’t YAC friendly. It’s make the catch and maybe you are already in the endzone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PapaJoe 3,217 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 interesting indeed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconsIn2012 35,693 Posted November 13, 2020 Author Share Posted November 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Pacific_Falcon said: Drew Brees: king of the shuttle pass. LOL..his IAY is less than half of Ryan’s Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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