DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins 2,002 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 So, we all mostly thought it was crazy to renew Beasley's 5th year option -- but the Falcons did it anyway. Maybe that was due to TD wanting to "be right" about the pick he made? Now, we see Takk actually released. Maybe that should've been done a while ago, but TD wouldn't consider it because he wanted to "be right" about his draft pick? And if so ... that kind of bu11sht can sap a team of energy and drive. ⚡Slumerican⚡ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kiwifalcon 19,093 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Maybe if we had better coaching decisions between the lines we have a couple SB’s on teams that TD and co built. How longs a piece of string. Ergo Proxy, Smiler11, raysnill1 and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atl Falcon 3,779 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 20 minutes ago, DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins said: So, we all mostly thought it was crazy to renew Beasley's 5th year option -- but the Falcons did it anyway. Maybe that was due to TD wanting to "be right" about the pick he made? Now, we see Takk actually released. Maybe that should've been done a while ago, but TD wouldn't consider it because he wanted to "be right" about his draft pick? And if so ... that kind of bu11sht can sap a team of energy and drive. It did DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atl Falcon 3,779 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 14 minutes ago, kiwifalcon said: Maybe if we had better coaching decisions between the lines we have a couple SB’s on teams that TD and co built. How longs a piece of string. Maybe if I’d made that 6 ft putt Saturday I’d shot 69. Maybe if TD would have found a pass rush, defense and OL the falcons and two future HOFs would have multiple Super Bowls. He could not add the final pieces with three decades of being the HMFWIC. Dude how many times do you have to be told...yeah coaching was part of the problem, but if a GM can’t find a pass rush in 13 yrs or a top tier defense and OL from 2008 til now who do you think gets most of the blame? The GM. A couple of decent OLs in 13 yrs and how many top 10- 15 defenses during this time. I’ve told you once and I’ll tell you again...TROFFED!!! Here’s your sign. You’re spiky hair bike rider could not get it done. Hurry_Up_And_Buy, Osiruz and egoprime II 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kiwifalcon 19,093 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 That’s the whole point is maybe either way. The idea he’s judged on certain things but not other is hilarious. BlazerSlayer and Ergo Proxy 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atl Falcon 3,779 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 TD did some great things but he did some not so great things. The bottom line is uncle Author fired his butt because the best TD could do was dangle a freaking carrot in front of a rabbit. Get over it.....Sayonara TD Hurry_Up_And_Buy and egoprime II 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fuego 16,057 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 52 minutes ago, DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins said: So, we all mostly thought it was crazy to renew Beasley's 5th year option -- but the Falcons did it anyway. Maybe that was due to TD wanting to "be right" about the pick he made? Now, we see Takk actually released. Maybe that should've been done a while ago, but TD wouldn't consider it because he wanted to "be right" about his draft pick? And if so ... that kind of bu11sht can sap a team of energy and drive. Also Devonta Freeman. Never should have given him that big contract. It was obvious he wasn't going to get any better. opensource001, Atl Falcon, DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UGABOZ 2,027 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 sad thing is majority of this board loved td and dq egoprime II and Atl Falcon 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kiwifalcon 19,093 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 28 minutes ago, Atl Falcon said: TD did some great things but he did some not so great things. The bottom line is uncle Author fired his butt because the best TD could do was dangle a freaking carrot in front of a rabbit. Get over it.....Sayonara TD If the coaches had done the job between the lines maybe it’s different. Let me guess go back to pre TD live in those years you can have that ****e. I get it live with no expectations that’s about all any other Falcon GM delivered hey but if average is you eat it up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
papachaz 18,242 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, kiwifalcon said: Maybe if we had better coaching decisions between the lines we have a couple SB’s on teams that TD and co built. How longs a piece of string. where does it start and where does it end? the piece of string I mean Ergo Proxy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dukeduke211 643 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 I am pretty sure all of us would want to give guys we picked a chance to develop and succeed. Not give uo to soon. egoprime II, Ergo Proxy and falconsd56 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kiwifalcon 19,093 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, papachaz said: where does it start and where does it end? the piece of string I mean I think we know where it ends. You’ve been around long enough you would have seen the lean years of this franchise. For me when talking TD the previous 40 plus years aren’t taken into account so opinions on him can be slanted. papachaz and Ergo Proxy 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
papachaz 18,242 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, kiwifalcon said: I think we know where it ends. You’ve been around long enough you would have seen the lean years of this franchise. For me when talking TD the previous 40 plus years aren’t taken into account so opinions on him can be slanted. exactly. this was said somewhere a few days or so back, but those that weren't here for the smiths, just don't realize how bad things were before hand. I mean this teams history, includes hiring Marion Campbell as head coach. not once but TWICE.....they really have no clue Ergo Proxy, kiwifalcon and Osiruz 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kiwifalcon 19,093 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 I’m trying to delete alot of those previous years for exactly what you mention @papachaz papachaz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falcons_Frenzy 3,614 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 I think you're right OP about TD. However, I bet Takk did something really dumb when he was talked to about his latest tweets about trading him. The timing has me leaning towards that being the reason he was released. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shockerfalcon 1,890 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 TD isn't innocent but why does everyone continuously discount the influence DQ had on the roster? Definitely Beasly and possibly Takk were 100% DQ guys. It's been reported before that bringing Beasly back was DQ's ego driven choice. Looking at the talent on the roster a lot of it is homegrown all drafted by TD. UnrealfalcoN, Vandy, vitaman and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
supercollider 293 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Looking forward to a new GM that doesn't draft, and then overpay, busts ☺️ Hurry_Up_And_Buy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vandy 38,957 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 13 hours ago, DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins said: So, we all mostly thought it was crazy to renew Beasley's 5th year option -- but the Falcons did it anyway. Maybe that was due to TD wanting to "be right" about the pick he made? Now, we see Takk actually released. Maybe that should've been done a while ago, but TD wouldn't consider it because he wanted to "be right" about his draft pick? And if so ... that kind of bu11sht can sap a team of energy and drive. TD wasn’t the problem. It was Quinn who convinced organization to keep VB. papachaz, HASHBROWN3, kiwifalcon and 3 others 4 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UnrealfalcoN 3,960 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Who had the final say on the 53 man roster again? TD atleast kept Takk under control. A Dog Named Brian and Ergo Proxy 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HASHBROWN3 16,821 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Dadgummit! How dare that man try to be right! My gosh, the nerve of that mother forker! I say we hunt that joker down right now! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malachore 9,100 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 TD has had trouble finding a pass rush for sure but he put together so championship caliber teams that coaching ruined. I don't doubt he kept guys because of draft position but that can be said for most GMs. I also don't believe anyone offered a 2nd for Takk. kiwifalcon, Ergo Proxy and primetime 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CraigSmackDaddy 1,943 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Probably accurate that TD wasn’t gonna give up on high draft picks in hopes they got it together, same could be said for almost every GM. BUT he did learn his lesson and not take the 5th year option on Takk. All in all no GM is gonna hit on every pick and I have a feeling that we’ll look back and think TD did a pretty decent job. Went to a SB that we should have won and an NFCCG, should have won that one and the SB that year too IMO . autigerfan, primetime and Ergo Proxy 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins 2,002 Posted November 11, 2020 Author Share Posted November 11, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Vandy said: TD wasn’t the problem. It was Quinn who convinced organization to keep VB. That is how DQ explained it, that's true. Maybe behind closed doors he knew he didn't have a choice, so he put the best possible spin on it and tried to make it work. Edited November 11, 2020 by DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins Vandy and Ergo Proxy 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
opensource001 1,059 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 C 15 hours ago, papachaz said: exactly. this was said somewhere a few days or so back, but those that weren't here for the smiths, just don't realize how bad things were before hand. I mean this teams history, includes hiring Marion Campbell as head coach. not once but TWICE.....they really have no clue The current Falcons also hired Dirk Koetter twice. Yes, I know he's not Marion Campbell bad but still shows a lack of learning. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
papachaz 18,242 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, opensource001 said: C The current Falcons also hired Dirk Koetter twice. Yes, I know he's not Marion Campbell bad but still shows a lack of learning. my only rebuttal to that is, we had the same GM when that happened, and the second time was the HC who supposedly had complete control over personnel, both staff and roster. the owner doesn't hire an OC, the coach does. the owner DID however hire that pitiful excuse of a HC twice kiwifalcon 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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