Skeetbird 1,859 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 he was nothing but mouth from the moment they drafted him. Adios chump Rampage 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sidecar Falcon 7,785 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 26 minutes ago, Ergo Proxy said: Nah bro fake news. Real story is no offers but also offers...but we didn’t actually turn any down we couldn’t get him to pass a physical. Source: me Comp pick wasn’t likely but you have no chance of having any return if cut. People are talking about the wrong thing wrt that anyway. If you weren’t going to keep him why not trade? It was a bad situation either way. Best scenario now is he is claimed on waivers to take his salary off us. That would be something back! I doubt anyone would claim him. He is hurt and he doesn’t produce. So we’re out a potential comp pick; or a possible trade pick. Not to mention the salary cap we’re on the hook for. The bigger issue is the mentality of leaving a toxic person inside your locker room for that long. I doubt that this just came up within the last few weeks. Vandy and Ergo Proxy 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tbhawksfan 93 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Spin it any way you want this is another Falcon's fail. Maybe Tak is right to want out That said I am and always will be a Falcon's fan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
etherdome 6,342 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 8 hours ago, BLM said: Are the falcons the new browns now? Bad team, drama all the time, no one wants to be here, bad FO moves. I mean 0 picks in return! Seriously? One guy tweets, gets booted and you think it is drama? Come on, man. This team is poorly coached, but not a calamity. The kid has a bad reputation for being mentally unstable.....Do you remember last year? He considered harming himself. He has mental health issues. I hope he gets help and can make a good life for himself. As for the team, they cut their losses and moved on. There were no trades to be had. 1989Fan 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Xfactor 4,074 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 I was banging the drum hard for Watt but was told he wouldn't be a good fit for our scheme. 2× Pro Bowl (2018, 2019) First-team All-Pro (2019) His 34.5 career sacks are the most by a linebacker over his first 47 career regular-season games since Denver's Von Miller (44.0, 2011-14). /smh Drunken Minotaur Zebra and Rampage 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aleksandr sportolli 46,556 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 17 hours ago, coastiemike said: Good riddance. 17 hours ago, coastiemike said: Good riddance. 17 hours ago, coastiemike said: Good riddance. 17 hours ago, coastiemike said: Good riddance. So is it fair to say you weren't a Takk fan? 1989Fan, Rampage and falconsd56 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thofin21 3,133 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 When Tak was mentally and physically healthy he was good , problem was he was usually hurt or acting immature . Morris did what he had to do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
coastiemike 3,439 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jdrizzle said: So is it fair to say you weren't a Takk fan? I was until he started bad mouthing the team. Same as I was a Vic fan until he abandoned his teammates to stand in the tunnel and watch the end of the game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rampage 27 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 13 minutes ago, Xfactor said: I was banging the drum hard for Watt but was told he wouldn't be a good fit for our scheme. 2× Pro Bowl (2018, 2019) First-team All-Pro (2019) His 34.5 career sacks are the most by a linebacker over his first 47 career regular-season games since Denver's Von Miller (44.0, 2011-14). /smh Dimitroff was really a horrible GM. He couldn't draft defense if his life depended on it. I was just thinking the other day, when was the last time we had a dominant pass rusher? We had Abraham and Kerney and then one year where Vic Beasley got half his sacks unblocked and that was it. It's been a total failure the last eight years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falconsd56 25,916 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 20 minutes ago, Xfactor said: I was banging the drum hard for Watt but was told he wouldn't be a good fit for our scheme. 2× Pro Bowl (2018, 2019) First-team All-Pro (2019) His 34.5 career sacks are the most by a linebacker over his first 47 career regular-season games since Denver's Von Miller (44.0, 2011-14). /smh Playing the what if game works both ways. There is zero guarantee that he would have done the same thing here. Different coaches... different schemes. Pittsburgh is similar to the Pats in that the players that excell for them do not always..... actually usually do not excel for other teams. The number of linebackers who were great in pittsburgh and then went somewhere else and kept that same level of play can be counted on one hand. 1989Fan 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Drunken Minotaur Zebra 7,032 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 35 minutes ago, Xfactor said: I was banging the drum hard for Watt but was told he wouldn't be a good fit for our scheme. 2× Pro Bowl (2018, 2019) First-team All-Pro (2019) His 34.5 career sacks are the most by a linebacker over his first 47 career regular-season games since Denver's Von Miller (44.0, 2011-14). /smh Hindsight and all... but yea I wanted baby Watt too. Peteshweddy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Upstate NY Falcon 572 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 18 hours ago, TheFalcoholic said: Rich McKay is a moron. Now we get nothing for him. My god. Didn’t like the offers you got so keep him. He ****** and moans and you fine him then cut him? Stick him on IR or leave him inactive every week and then maybe you get a comp pick. You just gave him what he wanted and you got nothing in return! I think the Falcons handled this exactly how they should have. The biggest frustration fans had about TD and DQ was their willingness to give “their guys” 3rd, 4th, and 5th chances. Cutting bait now instead of stashing him for a MAYBE 6th round comp pick sends a clear message to everyone on this team. No more golden gooses. As a number of others have also pointed out, a new GM and head coach are more than likely going to turn over the roster a fair bit more, so I don’t realistically see us getting comp picks next year, or at the very least not for a player like Takk. At the end of the day he’s a human being who clearly has some issues. Hope he gets the help he needs Falconcheff 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A Pimp Named Slickback™ 3,404 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 I find it funny only 2 pages into this thread that so many believe the word of Tak that the Falcons was offered anything on him. No source other than the disgruntled player who was released lol. I know a lt of you like to dump on the FO, but c'mon man...you believing Tak!? octoslash 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Friendly Folk 1,480 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 19 hours ago, youngbloodz said: I wouldn’t have waived him. I would have place him inactive for every game for the rest of the season. Just an utter failure by the Front Office Yeah, make him inactive and ban him from the facility. Gotta zap the cancer tumors. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dr_truth189 422 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 3 hours ago, etherdome said: The kid has a bad reputation for being mentally unstable.....Do you remember last year? He considered harming himself. He has mental health issues. I hope he gets help and can make a good life for himself. I'm not typically in the business of rumors, but word was that he had a little salvia trip and went crazy for a minute and then came back down. If anyone here has ever used the drug, sounds about right based on the small amount of details that came out from the incident. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Friendly Folk 1,480 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 10 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said: Hopefully Takk gets some of this on the way out Is that Michael Sam? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
etherdome 6,342 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, Dr_truth189 said: I'm not typically in the business of rumors, but word was that he had a little salvia trip and went crazy for a minute and then came back down. If anyone here has ever used the drug, sounds about right based on the small amount of details that came out from the incident. Not familiar with that drug. Still, the kid has had issues Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Summerhill 1,670 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 2 hours ago, falconsd56 said: Playing the what if game works both ways. There is zero guarantee that he would have done the same thing here. Different coaches... different schemes. Pittsburgh is similar to the Pats in that the players that excell for them do not always..... actually usually do not excel for other teams. The number of linebackers who were great in pittsburgh and then went somewhere else and kept that same level of play can be counted on one hand. Watt may not have been 100% as good in Atlanta as in Pittsburgh, but he is still really good and would have been good here. He is at least as good an athlete as McKinley and produced big time results in college at an earlier age than McKinley. He's also been very healthy whiuch is one of McKinley's biggest problems. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falconsd56 25,916 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Summerhill said: Watt may not have been 100% as good in Atlanta as in Pittsburgh, but he is still really good and would have been good here. He is at least as good an athlete as McKinley and produced big time results in college at an earlier age than McKinley. He's also been very healthy whiuch is one of McKinley's biggest problems. Maybe ..maybe not. There were also big time injury concerns about Watt coming out of the draft....there is a reason he fell to what 27th? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Summerhill 1,670 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, falconsd56 said: Maybe ..maybe not. There were also big time injury concerns about Watt coming out of the draft....there is a reason he fell to what 27th? He did have an injury early in his college career but I don't think it was a concern. He got drafted where he did because he had only been playing defense for two seasons and only actually did something for one season. And while JJ Watt got drafted really high despite slim production, he had elite size to go with his elite athleticism. TJ has pretty average size for his borderline elite athleticism. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Osiruz 10,079 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Rampage said: Dimitroff was really a horrible GM. He couldn't draft defense if his life depended on it. I was just thinking the other day, when was the last time we had a dominant pass rusher? We had Abraham and Kerney and then one year where Vic Beasley got half his sacks unblocked and that was it. It's been a total failure the last eight years. TD absolutely sucked when it came to Dline. I don't even remember him drafting a semi sucessful DE outside maybe Kroy Biermann. However he did stack the roster with Oloukin, Debo, and Jarrett. Rampage 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rampage 27 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Osiruz said: TD absolutely sucked when it came to Dline. I don't even remember him drafting a semi sucessful DE outside maybe Kroy Biermann. However he did stack the roster with Oloukin, Debo, and Jarrett. Jarrett and Foye were late round flyer guys though. Kudos for him drafting them but you gotta hit on those high picks to give yourself a chance. Debo was a great pick. He never had an issue drafting DBs, it's the front seven picks that killed us. Even before him though, Peria Jerry, Jamaal Anderson, maybe it's the scouting department as well that's rotten to the core but we can't draft D-linemen to save ours lives it seems. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vandy 39,436 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Rampage said: Dimitroff was really a horrible GM. He couldn't draft defense if his life depended on it. LOL 6 minutes ago, Rampage said: Jarrett and Foye were late round flyer guys though. To reasonably objective folks that’s way more impressive than getting it right on the consensus 1st rounders. Boise Falcon Fan 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boise Falcon Fan 4,027 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 4 hours ago, Xfactor said: I was banging the drum hard for Watt but was told he wouldn't be a good fit for our scheme. 2× Pro Bowl (2018, 2019) First-team All-Pro (2019) His 34.5 career sacks are the most by a linebacker over his first 47 career regular-season games since Denver's Von Miller (44.0, 2011-14). /smh Yeah, you were the only one. Maybe we should create a trophy for you, or give you a medal... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rampage 27 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Vandy said: To reasonable, objective folks, that’s more impressive than the consensus 1st round hits. The kind of players that they passed up at those first round spots, at the same position doesn't impress me. Rather the opposite. It shows a severe lack of talent evaluation. There's a reason Jarrett and Foye went in the late rounds, otherwise 31 other teams would have been falling over themselves to draft them five rounds earlier. Dimitroff isn't here for a simple reason. He was a complete and total failure as a drafter and the record indicates that. The defense has been garbage his entire tenure and he's spent high pick after high pick on it and it's gone nowhere. A super bowl collapse because of a horrific defensive failure in the second half, and now this year a historically bad pass defense again due to a lack of pass rush and mediocre secondary. The offense has always been superb as far as I'm concerned. The defense, an abomination. Edited November 10, 2020 by Rampage Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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