Ergo Proxy 25,088 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 1 minute ago, ATLFalcons11 said: True we can't challenge but we can call timeout and put it in the refs ear to challenge it because it's under 2 minutes and there was a clear recovery by one of the teams (us in this case) I don’t know if the refs call a look or is that not simply a NY decision? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thanat0s 3,467 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Ergo Proxy said: Dude. What game did you watch? We stopped running the clock! Rofl. And, after it should’ve been over a penalty stops the clock when we “finally” “committed” to running the ball... They had no strategical way; without Falcon turnovers and incomplete passes, to have a SHOT to tie the game at any point after 34-13. They did. Coaching. Sure... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ATLFalcons11 4,600 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ergo Proxy said: I don’t know if the refs call a look or is that not simply a NY decision? There's communication between the refs on the field and ones looking in NY. It's two way, not one way. You have to, as a coach, play that to your advantage in a game of inches. Ergo Proxy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ergo Proxy 25,088 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 1 minute ago, thanat0s said: Sure... What part of 2 passes in a series of downs is you stuck to the run? 2 drives back to back did this btw. I’ll hang up and listen! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kenn.junior 671 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, AUTiger7222 said: Facts? When I watch the games and I watch the defense I see #26 making more good plays than bad ones. I see #20 making more bad plays than good ones. I'm sorry that my OPINION isn't a FACT in your eyes. I am only telling what my EYES tell me. I don't know how you can call something a FACT when there are no STATS available to back up either of our opinions. What STAT backs up your opinion and makes it a FACT? i see both making bad plays coverage wise oliver only tackles well which is not the most important thing you need for a CB. All they need to do is start Aj and wreh-wilson and let Aj travel against the #1 WR and let dennard guard the slot simple Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ergo Proxy 25,088 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 1 minute ago, ATLFalcons11 said: There's communication between the refs on the field and ones looking in NY. It's two way, not one way. You have to, as a coach, play that to your advantage in a game of inches. If that’s a thing given the situation? Sure. Call a To. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Scott 1,295 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ergo Proxy said: 6-3 easily. Cowboys one recovery not even attempted...win given away. 16 point lead half way through 4th vs Bears; Gurley 6 yards per carry and almost 150 rushing as a team... kept throwing and gave away the win. Just kneel and kick a FG to win vs Lions...scored a TD because we ran instead of kneeled...gave away a better win condition. Basically: If a decision is allowing more drives with time remaining for your defense to have to stop a score? It’s a bad decision. But then again, if we had won the Bears and Cowboy games we’d have been 2-3 and Quinn would still be coaching so we may still he 3-6 with Quinn still here. Call it a wash Ergo Proxy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
youngbloodz 15,385 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 15 minutes ago, AUTiger7222 said: Facts? When I watch the games and I watch the defense I see #26 making more good plays than bad ones. I see #20 making more bad plays than good ones. I'm sorry that my OPINION isn't a FACT in your eyes. I am only telling what my EYES tell me. I don't know how you can call something a FACT when there are no STATS available to back up either of our opinions. What STAT backs up your opinion and makes it a FACT? First of all stop yelling. And when it comes to football there are still FACTS. Like technique, playing the ball, turning your head. Oliver has yet to show any of those on a consistent basis. And Sheff has. You mentioned last year. Perhaps your eyes are deceiving you because Oliver isn’t close to being the corner that Sheffield is. But maybe your OPINION suggests otherwise because my OPINION does🤷🏾♂️ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fiercefalcon 498 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 I understand player safety but they gotta roll it back on the QBs. Only reason Lock didn't fumble was because apparently QBs get the same protection as a fair catch returner. MoFalconsFan56 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ergo Proxy 25,088 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Screaming Brave said: But then again, if we had won the Bears and Cowboy games we’d have been 2-3 and Quinn would still be coaching so we may still he 3-6 with Quinn still here. Call it a wash Sadly true... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AUTiger7222 6,044 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 10 minutes ago, ATLFalcons11 said: True we can't challenge but we can call timeout and put it in the refs ear to challenge it because it's under 2 minutes and there was a clear recovery by one of the teams (us in this case) But can you even review that after they blew it dead and ruled it an incomplete pass? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Ergo Proxy 25,088 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 1 minute ago, AUTiger7222 said: But can you even review that after they blew it dead and ruled it an incomplete pass? Good point. This was an issue a year or 2 ago on that New Orleans play vs the Rams...did they change the rule? I forget if they did or not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ATLFalcons11 4,600 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Just now, AUTiger7222 said: But can you even review that after they blew it dead and ruled it an incomplete pass? Yes they can because it was a clear recovery. If it wasn't a clear recovery, then no they couldn't. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Scott 1,295 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Ergo Proxy said: Sadly true... Like Parcells said, “You are what your record says you are” Edited November 8, 2020 by Screaming Brave Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ATLFalcons11 4,600 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Just now, Ergo Proxy said: This was an issue a few years ago on that New Orleans play vs the Rams...did they change the rule? Pass interference is different from a forward or a fumble. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ergo Proxy 25,088 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 1 minute ago, ATLFalcons11 said: Pass interference is different from a forward or a fumble. Not the playoff game. A fumble that was ruled down instead of letting it play out. Saints at Rams. A year or 2 ago. Last year? When brees was hurt I think. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falcster 197 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 What happened in our 4th quarter??? The 4th qtr play of O and D results in changing a Falcons dominating game into a 1 TD win! I'll take a win any day but, it messed up the feel of what the Atlanta Falcons had accomplished in the first 3 qtrs. :( AUTiger7222 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ATLFalcons11 4,600 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Just now, Ergo Proxy said: Not the playoff game. A fumble that was ruled down instead of letting it play out. Saints at Rams. A year or 2 ago. Last year? When brees was hurt I think. Ohhh ok my bad. It depends on if it was a clear recovery by a team. That's the key. It has to be some sort of doubt that if the play wasn't blown dead that the other team could have recovered. Since Mariner was the only player on the ball I don't personally see how they could claim that but I could be wrong on that part I guess. Ergo Proxy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ergo Proxy 25,088 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Just now, ATLFalcons11 said: Ohhh ok my bad. It depends on if it was a clear recovery by a team. That's the key. It has to be some sort of doubt that if the play wasn't blown dead that the other team could have recovered. Since Mariner was the only player on the ball I don't personally see how they could claim that but I could be wrong on that part I guess. Yeah I looked back. They reviewed the play and gave NO the ball, but since it was initially ruled down they negated a TD returned on the fumble recovery itself. ATLFalcons11 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falconsd56 24,774 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 17 minutes ago, Ergo Proxy said: Dude. What game did you watch? We stopped running the clock! Rofl. And, after it should’ve been over a penalty stops the clock when we “finally” “committed” to running the ball... They had no strategical way; without Falcon turnovers and incomplete passes, to have a SHOT to tie the game at any point after 34-13. They did. Coaching. https://www.espn.com/nfl/playbyplay?gameId=401220293 1st & 10 at GB 26 (3:38 - 4th) A.Jones right end to GB 30 for 4 yards (I.Oliver). (3:33 - 4th) Timeout #1 by ATL at 03:33. 2nd & 6 at GB 30 (3:33 - 4th) A.Rodgers scrambles left end to GB 35 for 5 yards (K.Sheffield). 3rd & 1 at GB 35 (3:24 - 4th) A.Rodgers pass short left to R.Tonyan to ATL 45 for 20 yards (K.Sheffield). (3:16 - 4th) Timeout #3 by ATL at 03:16. 1st & 10 at ATL 45 (3:16 - 4th) R.Wagner reported in as eligible. J.Williams left tackle to ATL 46 for -1 yards (S.Neasman, G.Jarrett). 2nd & 11 at ATL 46 (2:32 - 4th) J.Williams right tackle to ATL 44 for 2 yards (S.Means). (2:00 - 4th) Two-Minute Warning 3rd & 9 at ATL 44 (2:00 - 4th) A.Rodgers pass incomplete deep right to M.Valdes-Scantling. Penalty on GB-J.Sternberger, Illegal Block Above the Waist, declined. 4th & 9 at ATL 44 (1:53 - 4th) J.Scott punts 44 yards to end zone, Center-H.Bradley, Touchback. GB-J.Deguara was injured during the play. https://www.espn.com/nfl/playbyplay?gameId=401220285 3:40 - 4th) M.Prater kicks 61 yards from DET 35 to NO 4. A.Kamara to NO 17 for 13 yards (M.Killebrew).PENALTY on DET-T.Walker, Illegal Formation, 5 yards, enforced at NO 17. 1st & 10 at NO 22 (3:29 - 4th) D.Brees pass short middle to M.Burton to NO 25 for 3 yards (J.Collins, J.Penisini). (3:29 - 4th) Timeout #1 by DET at 03:29. 2nd & 7 at NO 25 (3:29 - 4th) A.Kamara up the middle to NO 27 for 2 yards (R.Ragland). (3:29 - 4th) Timeout #2 by DET at 03:25. 3rd & 5 at NO 27 (3:25 - 4th) (Shotgun) D.Brees pass deep left to T.Smith to NO 46 for 19 yards (J.Okudah) [R.Okwara]. You guys act like DK is the only one who would pass.....he isn't. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B_Lo_Touchdowns 4,720 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Good game looking forward to upsetting the Aints #RiseUp Drew4719, falconsd56 and Ergo Proxy 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ergo Proxy 25,088 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 10 minutes ago, falconsd56 said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/playbyplay?gameId=401220293 1st & 10 at GB 26 (3:38 - 4th) A.Jones right end to GB 30 for 4 yards (I.Oliver). (3:33 - 4th) Timeout #1 by ATL at 03:33. 2nd & 6 at GB 30 (3:33 - 4th) A.Rodgers scrambles left end to GB 35 for 5 yards (K.Sheffield). 3rd & 1 at GB 35 (3:24 - 4th) A.Rodgers pass short left to R.Tonyan to ATL 45 for 20 yards (K.Sheffield). (3:16 - 4th) Timeout #3 by ATL at 03:16. 1st & 10 at ATL 45 (3:16 - 4th) R.Wagner reported in as eligible. J.Williams left tackle to ATL 46 for -1 yards (S.Neasman, G.Jarrett). 2nd & 11 at ATL 46 (2:32 - 4th) J.Williams right tackle to ATL 44 for 2 yards (S.Means). (2:00 - 4th) Two-Minute Warning 3rd & 9 at ATL 44 (2:00 - 4th) A.Rodgers pass incomplete deep right to M.Valdes-Scantling. Penalty on GB-J.Sternberger, Illegal Block Above the Waist, declined. 4th & 9 at ATL 44 (1:53 - 4th) J.Scott punts 44 yards to end zone, Center-H.Bradley, Touchback. GB-J.Deguara was injured during the play. https://www.espn.com/nfl/playbyplay?gameId=401220285 3:40 - 4th) M.Prater kicks 61 yards from DET 35 to NO 4. A.Kamara to NO 17 for 13 yards (M.Killebrew).PENALTY on DET-T.Walker, Illegal Formation, 5 yards, enforced at NO 17. 1st & 10 at NO 22 (3:29 - 4th) D.Brees pass short middle to M.Burton to NO 25 for 3 yards (J.Collins, J.Penisini). (3:29 - 4th) Timeout #1 by DET at 03:29. 2nd & 7 at NO 25 (3:29 - 4th) A.Kamara up the middle to NO 27 for 2 yards (R.Ragland). (3:29 - 4th) Timeout #2 by DET at 03:25. 3rd & 5 at NO 27 (3:25 - 4th) (Shotgun) D.Brees pass deep left to T.Smith to NO 46 for 19 yards (J.Okudah) [R.Okwara]. You guys act like DK is the only one who would pass.....he isn't. No one said never be aggressive. Now give those teams the defense that allows THE most points to end halfs. That's the ENTIRE issue. Context is the definition of situational football. We play expecting the worst defense in situational football to make stops. If our defense was consist at situational football you can hedge the risk. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falconsd56 24,774 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ergo Proxy said: No one said never be aggressive. Now give those teams the defense that allows THE most points to end halfs. That's the ENTIRE issue. Context is the definition of situational football. We play expecting the worst defense in situational football to make stops. If our defense was consist at situational football you can hedge the risk. Saints have just as bad of secondary as do Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ergo Proxy 25,088 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 1 minute ago, falconsd56 said: Saints have just as bad of secondary as do They also have an offense that functions with the RB in the pass game and emphasizes YAC. Dirk doesn't have this and it's why the looks given were terribly easy to defend. And no, their defense is bad but not the worst. But at least they have ability to spread the ball around and generate YAC to keep clock moving. You need that if you either a) dont have a run game or b) decide to throw. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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