lostnmexico 2,343 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 CBS on trades that should be made: 1. Raiders trade for Falcons WR Julio Jones Raiders get: WR Julio JonesFalcons get: 2021 first-round draft pick, 2022 fourth-round pick The Raiders have been shopping for No. 1 WR types since Mike Mayock arrived, from Antonio Brown to present-day prospects like Henry Ruggs. Jones is a clear step above them all, in that he's everything Mayock and Jon Gruden wanted in AB -- a bona fide, nearly un-coverable play-maker -- minus the off-field antics. What Derek Carr has right now is working, but now that Las Vegas is very much alive in the AFC West race, the time is now to pounce. Manipulating the cap would be well worth his killer size and instincts. And why on Earth would the Falcons do this, you ask? Because while Rich McKay may have claimed Atlanta isn't about to auction its assets, it's fairly obvious Jones, at 31 with an injury history, is not going to be elite -- or even present -- when the Falcons are ready to compete again. You don't think they'd like to offload the $61.5 million he's owed through 2023, especially with Calvin Ridley emerging so strongly? Throw in the fact he'd be going to the AFC and netting them two premium picks, and it's a logical deal. rugger8 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tl;dr 9,282 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 fart noise Ergo Proxy, Francis York Morgan, Vandy and 14 others 7 1 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lostnmexico 2,343 Posted October 21, 2020 Author Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) Initial thoughts.......This is a trade right out of left field........but I could actually see this happen because it's Vegas! With all the teams looking for WR help.....I could see Vegas winning a bidding war with San Francisco or Tennessee if we put him on the block. Edited October 21, 2020 by lostnmexico Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AUTiger7222 6,044 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 If the Raiders were so desperate for a good wide receiver why did they get rid of Amari Cooper last year? 4dabirds, papachaz, Dr Long Shot and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JetJones11 504 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, AUTiger7222 said: If the Raiders were so desperate for a good wide receiver why did they get rid of Amari Cooper last year? Cause he has no heart ... constantly disappearing in big moments NYCFalc, iLLmaticz, egoprime II and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ki46dinah 1,945 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 38 minutes ago, AUTiger7222 said: If the Raiders were so desperate for a good wide receiver why did they get rid of Amari Cooper last year? He wanted more money than the franchise wanted to pay him mtldirtybird and egoprime II 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zzzzz 509 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Another article where the author decided to pretend the salary cap and all its rules doesn't exist. LAZY. ATLskinjob, Vandy, mtldirtybird and 12 others 15 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kiwifalcon 18,964 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Always said it if we can off load the cap it’s a good thing.Always thought either Ryan or Julio wouldn’t be Falcons next year. The draft compensation isn’t bad if I could squeeze another mid rounder next year I’d pull the trigger. vitaman, egoprime II and KCFalcon22 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
youngbloodz 15,385 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Nope not happening this year. Neither is a Ryan trade Ergo Proxy, NYCFalc, KCFalcon22 and 4 others 4 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shockerfalcon 1,886 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 2 hours ago, kiwifalcon said: Always said it if we can off load the cap it’s a good thing.Always thought either Ryan or Julio wouldn’t be Falcons next year. The draft compensation isn’t bad if I could squeeze another mid rounder next year I’d pull the trigger. It’s less than what the Bills gave up for stefon diggs. Not even McKay would take that deal mtldirtybird 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vandy 38,759 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 48 minutes ago, youngbloodz said: Nope not happening this year. Neither is a Ryan trade Covid has turned peeps brains into mush. JohnnyFranchise, papachaz, WhenFalconsWin and 3 others 2 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KCFalcon22 780 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 3 hours ago, kiwifalcon said: Always said it if we can off load the cap it’s a good thing.Always thought either Ryan or Julio wouldn’t be Falcons next year. The draft compensation isn’t bad if I could squeeze another mid rounder next year I’d pull the trigger. They would definitely have to do a 1st and 3rd this year for me to start listening 1 hour ago, youngbloodz said: Nope not happening this year. Neither is a Ryan trade Due to the cap restraints and the fact we won't have a Top 5 pick, i'm not sure selling makes sense this year. If we were able to get one of the top 2 QBs we would be looking at throwing them into war with only 1 weapon. youngbloodz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Great American 4,426 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Vandy said: Covid has turned peeps brains into mush. You just summed up a week at TATF in one post. Vandy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PriMeTiiMe 6,866 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) 0% chance during the season with no long term GM in place and the the salary cap ramifications of moving him right now. Offseason post 6/1 maybe 25% and even that is being very generous. Edited October 21, 2020 by PriMeTiiMe Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AUTiger7222 6,044 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 6 hours ago, ki46dinah said: He wanted more money than the franchise wanted to pay him So they expect to get a top notch WR for pennies? Makes a lot of sense. WhenFalconsWin 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ROMERO 3,499 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Can we stop with these threads? 🙄 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sidecar Falcon 7,554 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 7 hours ago, AUTiger7222 said: If the Raiders were so desperate for a good wide receiver why did they get rid of Amari Cooper last year? Cooper didn’t show up until he went to the Cowboys. It’s like night and day. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WhenFalconsWin 27,930 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 I'd want way more than that if we are going to depart with Julio. A 1st and next years 4th for a Hofer still in his late prime? BS BS BS... RedandBlack4ever 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sidecar Falcon 7,554 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 33 minutes ago, AUTiger7222 said: So they expect to get a top notch WR for pennies? Makes a lot of sense. A mid-round 1st and a 4th for a 31 year old WR, who has been injured, isn’t “pennies”. I dare say that we’d be making out better on that end of the deal. We could possibly squeeze a 3rd out of them. egoprime II and vitaman 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AUTiger7222 6,044 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Sidecar Falcon said: A mid-round 1st and a 4th for a 31 year old WR, who has been injured, isn’t “pennies”. I dare say that we’d be making out better on that end of the deal. We could possibly squeeze a 3rd out of them. He said they didn't want to pay. Meaning contract. Julio is one of the highest paid WR's in the NFL. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AUTiger7222 6,044 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, Sidecar Falcon said: Cooper didn’t show up until he went to the Cowboys. It’s like night and day. In 2016 with the Raiders Cooper had 83 catches for 1153 yards and 6 touchdowns. He was also over 1000 yards receiving as a rookie in 2015. In 3 1/2 years (52 games) with the Raiders Cooper caught 225 passes for 3183 yards and 19 touchdowns. Yes he's done better with the Cowboys but that's because he's had a better QB throwing him the ball in Dallas, that is until Dak's freak injury. But Cooper was really good with the Raiders. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MSalmon 10,869 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 For McKay or Blank to dismantle team, except for those on expiring contracts would be madness pre-hiring a GM and HC. Most legit candidates want to make their own observations and decisions Francis York Morgan 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sidecar Falcon 7,554 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, AUTiger7222 said: He said they didn't want to pay. Meaning contract. Julio is one of the highest paid WR's in the NFL. He’s also a “name” WR. If there’s something I’ve learned about football is that new city franchises will make acquisitions that could generate “buzz”. A trade for Julio would fall under the category. 1 minute ago, AUTiger7222 said: In 2016 with the Raiders Cooper had 83 catches for 1153 yards and 6 touchdowns. He was also over 1000 yards receiving as a rookie in 2015. In 3 1/2 years (52 games) with the Raiders Cooper caught 225 passes for 3183 yards and 19 touchdowns. Yes he's done better with the Cowboys but that's because he's had a better QB throwing him the ball in Dallas, that is until Dak's freak injury. But Cooper was really good with the Raiders. Cooper wasn’t living up to his expectations. He was pretty average to above average with the Raiders. His injuries withstanding, his 2017 stats are atrocious. Not to mention he has injury issues as well as dropped passes issue. Dak is a better QB than Carr, I’ll give you that, but it’s not this monumental drop off in talent between the two QBs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nomak 4,423 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 7 hours ago, tl;dr said: fart noise Sorry.....😟I didn't think no one would hear... tl;dr 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
youngbloodz 15,385 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 5 hours ago, kiwifalcon said: Always said it if we can off load the cap it’s a good thing.Always thought either Ryan or Julio wouldn’t be Falcons next year. The draft compensation isn’t bad if I could squeeze another mid rounder next year I’d pull the trigger. You can’t get rid of dead money like that. If you release or trade a player you will incur dead money no matter what. I don’t think you can circumvent that at all AUTiger7222 and Vandy 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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