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Only worry I have in the rotation is still Fried, he was very food last year but for some reason I just don't trust him.

Hopefully Soroka comes back fine, I expect there will be early season struggles as he gets back into it. 

Anderson showed a lot more than he should have last season, the kid just has it. Even when he isn't pitching well you can't tell. Seems like him, Soroka and Fried all have that quality.

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1 hour ago, Malachore said:

Only worry I have in the rotation is still Fried, he was very good last year but for some reason I just don't trust him.

I saw him struggle enough with blisters and other nagging injuries through his time in the minors that I'll probably always worry a little about him. But Fried's stuff and competitiveness is as strong as anyone's. 

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Just now, K26dp said:

I saw him struggle enough with blisters and other nagging injuries through his time in the minors that I'll probably always worry a little about him. But Fried's stuff and competitiveness is as strong as anyone's. 

Yeah that's exactly what I'm talking about. I don't doubt his stuff or determination.

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4 minutes ago, jidady said:

We're gonna HIT!

Also, the hidden significance of this move is his clubhouse presence. He'll keep Acuna and Albies straight as they grow into veterans. They revere him.

That isn't talked about much but it is significant. We heard multiple times last year that Ozuna became the leader of the Latin players. Those guys loved having a veteran around that was just like them. He helped them adjust and most importantly how not to fear just being you out there. His presence goes well beyond hitting cleanup. Donaldson brought a lot of swagger and attitude but even he wasn't as impactful as the big bear.

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16 minutes ago, jidady said:

We're gonna HIT!

Also, the hidden significance of this move is his clubhouse presence. He'll keep Acuna and Albies straight as they grow into veterans. They revere him.

Ozuna called some of his teammates last night to tell them and posted them live on Instagram last night. This was William Contreras's face when Ozuna told him (bottom).

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3 hours ago, Des-pool said:

There are a lot of inaccuracies here.

1. How is Ian Anderson unproven? He was arguably our best pitcher in the playoffs, a time where there is more stress and spotlight on a pitcher than any other time. What else does he have to do to “prove it”?

2. Fried averaged 5.1 innings in 2020 regular season. League average was 4.7, and in the playoffs in 4 starts he averaged 5.75. Fried was the only starter we had that did this. Almost no pitchers pitched past the 7th inning in the playoffs on any team, and Fried went 7, 6,6 and 4 innings pitched. With our bullpen last year, this was more than acceptable. 
 

3. by all accounts, Soroka is already further along than he should be and looks good so far. He is young and will heal fast. Not worried at all about him.

4. Charlie Morton in game 7 of the ALCS threw 5.2 shutout innings, struck out 6 and only allowed 2 hits against the Astros. That doesn’t sound like a guy with nothing left in the tank. We don’t need him to be anything more than a mentor and number 4 in the rotation. He brings much needed experience to an extremely young pitching staff. We also have Wilson and Wright in the wings, and he will help them and Touki as well, as he was a late bloomer and didn’t put everything together until he was in his 30’s. He’s basically the “Charlie Liebrandt” of this staff. 
 

5. Ozuna’s defense isn’t as bad as it is made out to be. He had a shoulder injury a couple of years ago that affected his throwing power. Before that, he won a gold glove. Honestly, as long as he is a neutral defender, Pache can make up for any defensive shortcomings.

 

instead of concentrating on the negative so much, you should realize that we just got back a great piece, shored up our rotation issues and are looking right now to be the second best team in the NL. If AA can pull out a 3rd baseman like Ramirez or Bryant, we might be the number 1 team in the NL. And mind you, that’s with a bunch of young guys still having not reached their projected potential. The future is so bright, we have to wear shades. 

 

Whatever 😴

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9 hours ago, 44 Aaron RF said:

Just another example of a guy that had a good career and we sign him as his career enters its twilight. We always do this. 
 

With all that’s said about our offense, our pitching is a fragile house of cards. Soroka coming off a very delicate injury, Ian Anderson still young and unproven, Max Fried who can’t pitch deep into games, and Morton as he closes out his career. Not exactly Glavine, Maddux, Smoltz, and Avery.

And without a DH, we have Ozuna’s defense to deal with. Hoping for the best but lots of worries. 

Max Fried "can't pitch deep into games" because Brian Snitker won't let him. In his 11 starts last year he was allowed to throw over 100 pitches just once. 4 times he was pulled with less than 90 pitches thrown. That doesn't count his final start against the Marlins that was cut short because of his injury. Look at the Reds playoff game. Fried was through 7 on only 78 pitches and Snitker pulled him. That's not a Max Fried problem. That's a Brian Snitker problem.

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1 hour ago, jidady said:

We're gonna HIT!

Also, the hidden significance of this move is his clubhouse presence. He'll keep Acuna and Albies straight as they grow into veterans. They revere him.

That IMO will be bigger than his impact on the field. I think had we not kept him you would have seen Acuna and Albies struggle to adapt to not having him around.

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4 hours ago, Unknøwn said:

Statcast has xBA. Thats expected batting average if you take away the defense making good plays or shifting just right, whatever the reason the play is made. They also have slugging and OBP. 

Riley's actual line, .239/.301/.415

Riley's expected line, .263/.325/.471

Great info.  Thanks bro

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16 minutes ago, AUTiger7222 said:

Before Riley's late season slump the final 2 weeks or so his expected batting average was around .275. He was making much better contact in 2020 than he did in 2019. He dramatically cut down on his strikeouts and his walks went up in 2020.

He was also pretty stout on the corner defensively

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5 hours ago, jidady said:

I always like it better when the players clearly want to be with Atlanta. And that's transparently true with Ozuna.

It's been a frustrating offseason as a baseball fan, but this is a great weekend.

Ozuna should be in an Atlanta jersey.

Me too. Ozuna has good ATL vibes, unlike Josh Donaldson the snake in his time here. 

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3 hours ago, AUTiger7222 said:

Before Riley's late season slump the final 2 weeks or so his expected batting average was around .275. He was making much better contact in 2020 than he did in 2019. He dramatically cut down on his strikeouts and his walks went up in 2020.

How was his launch angle and exit velocity? Babip? Need to know. 

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