Unknøwn 13,546 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Not the thread we wanted but all we can do is move forward. With the Falcons season over ill be on live sports hiatus for a few weeks but there's always time to discuss the 2021 Braves. Braves free agents Mark Melancon Cole Hamels Marcell Ozuna Shane Greene Nick Markakis Tyler Flowers Josh Tomlin Tommy Milone Pablo Sandoval NashvilleFalcon01, falconsd56 and Boise Falcon Fan 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tl;dr 9,768 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Still think we have a very bright future, but it does hurt right now. Would love to keep Ozuna and Greene. Passprotection, Boise Falcon Fan, BamaBirdLady and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oztin 667 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Unknøwn said: Not the thread we wanted but all we can do is move forward. With the Falcons season over ill be on live sports hiatus for a few weeks but there's always time to discuss the 2021 Braves. Braves free agents Mark Melancon Marcell Ozuna Shane Greene Nick Markakis These are the only guys we should bring back. Even Nick is more of an emergency OF. We need one more starting pitcher because I don't think Wright is going to make it as a starter. Also need to make our bench offensively stronger. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Unknøwn 13,546 Posted October 19, 2020 Author Share Posted October 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, tl;dr said: Still think we have a very bright future, but it does hurt right now. Would love to keep Ozuna and Greene. Oh yeah, our window is just beginning. That rivalry with the Dodgers is also just beginning. Keeping Ozuna would be huge but I'm not sure you can work it if there's no DH. The OF is already crowded. Pache will be the CF, Acuna in RF, Duvall returns as well. Waters could be ready at some point next year. I'm assuming Ender will be given the boot but you never know with all the financial hit that happened this year. Duvall could shift back to the #4 OF and power bat off the bench if there's no DH. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Unknøwn 13,546 Posted October 19, 2020 Author Share Posted October 19, 2020 Just now, oztin said: These are the only guys we should bring back. Even Nick is more of an emergency OF. We need one more starting pitcher because I don't think Wright is going to make it as a starter. Also need to make our bench offensively stronger. I think Nick is going to retire. He almost didn't play this year and his bat speed evaporated as the season went. Theres also no more room in Atlanta and I dont see him leaving his hometown to play at this point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oztin 667 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Unknøwn said: I think Nick is going to retire. He almost didn't play this year and his bat speed evaporated as the season went. Theres also no more room in Atlanta and I dont see him leaving his hometown to play at this point. Yeah I can also see getting this close and not making it being the straw to break the back. Since there aren't to many starting pitching in free agencies of note this year do you think we over pay via trade and get someone? I am pretty sure Ender, Folty, Newcomb, and Toki are all on the trade block. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tl;dr 9,768 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, Unknøwn said: Oh yeah, our window is just beginning. That rivalry with the Dodgers is also just beginning. Keeping Ozuna would be huge but I'm not sure you can work it if there's no DH. The OF is already crowded. Pache will be the CF, Acuna in RF, Duvall returns as well. Waters could be ready at some point next year. I'm assuming Ender will be given the boot but you never know with all the financial hit that happened this year. Duvall could shift back to the #4 OF and power bat off the bench if there's no DH. I really hope the DH becomes a thing now. Would suck to have to go back to pitchers hacking away at junk up there. I almost wonder if Ozuna is worth it regardless of the DH on a multi year deal because it's coming. One year of having to cover for him would be okay with me to some degree. In an ideal world, the DH stays and Waters comes up to take Markakis's spot. Our bench gets a lot better with Duvall as the 4th OF IMO. I still think we need more bench depth though. oztin 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Unknøwn 13,546 Posted October 19, 2020 Author Share Posted October 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, oztin said: Yeah I can also see getting this close and not making it being the straw to break the back. Since there aren't to many starting pitching in free agencies of note this year do you think we over pay via trade and get someone? I am pretty sure Ender, Folty, Newcomb, and Toki are all on the trade block. Folty will be allowed to walk. They won't offer him arbitration. Newk has some value as a RP so I wouldn't be surprised if they converted him full time. Touki will be AAA depth, I dont know how much value he has right now. I could see us signing a veteran SP like Charlie Morton. Stroman also is available and he has history with Anthopolous oztin and NashvilleFalcon01 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Unknøwn 13,546 Posted October 19, 2020 Author Share Posted October 19, 2020 14 minutes ago, tl;dr said: I really hope the DH becomes a thing now. Would suck to have to go back to pitchers hacking away at junk up there. I almost wonder if Ozuna is worth it regardless of the DH on a multi year deal because it's coming. One year of having to cover for him would be okay with me to some degree. In an ideal world, the DH stays and Waters comes up to take Markakis's spot. Our bench gets a lot better with Duvall as the 4th OF IMO. I still think we need more bench depth though. Our bench is pretty bad. It didn't show up cause the DH eliminated the need. I mean we had to pull a washed up Pablo Sandoval off the scrap heap to take key ABs in October. Boise Falcon Fan 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Unknøwn 13,546 Posted October 19, 2020 Author Share Posted October 19, 2020 I'm also concerned about Riley. I'm not sold on him being the answer at 3B. Hes a good option off the bench. He still has time but right now he has such glaring holes in his swing. Boise Falcon Fan and NashvilleFalcon01 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tl;dr 9,768 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, Unknøwn said: I'm also concerned about Riley. I'm not sold on him being the answer at 3B. Hes a good option off the bench. He still has time but right now he has such glaring holes in his swing. This is concerning for real. He can get better, but right now he isn't anything special. Would be nice if he could even be a .250, 30 HR type of guy. Right now he's not even that Boise Falcon Fan 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tl;dr 9,768 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Ozuna, Greene, a vet SP, and a utility guy like La Stella would make me a happy man. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Unknøwn 13,546 Posted October 19, 2020 Author Share Posted October 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, tl;dr said: This is concerning for real. He can get better, but right now he isn't anything special. Would be nice if he could even be a .250, 30 HR type of guy. Right now he's not even that There is a guy we're now very familiar with available at 3B. Justin Turner will be a FA at the end of the World Series. Boise Falcon Fan 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tl;dr 9,768 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Unknøwn said: There is a guy we're now very familiar with available at 3B. Justin Turner will be a FA at the end of the World Series. Chances we open up the check book for Ozuna AND Turner? I say little to none, but we can dream right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Unknøwn 13,546 Posted October 19, 2020 Author Share Posted October 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, tl;dr said: Chances we open up the check book for Ozuna AND Turner? I say little to none, but we can dream right? It would be Ozuna or Turner. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouDog 4,915 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 47 minutes ago, oztin said: These are the only guys we should bring back. Even Nick is more of an emergency OF. We need one more starting pitcher because I don't think Wright is going to make it as a starter. Also need to make our bench offensively stronger. Time to move on from Markakis. tl;dr and Boise Falcon Fan 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tl;dr 9,768 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, Unknøwn said: It would be Ozuna or Turner. Yeah but one can dream right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dmite 3,675 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 minute ago, tl;dr said: Yeah but one can dream right? Would Turner take a 1 year deal? Probably not, but he’ll be 36 in November. NashvilleFalcon01 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tl;dr 9,768 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, dmite said: Would Turner take a 1 year deal? Probably not, but he’ll be 36 in November. Yeah his age would make him want a longer deal I would think. Turner would be nice though. Maybe he could teach Riley a thing or two as well. I just wish we had a little bit more money to spend. We have a good team, but if we were willing to spend a little more, we could get really really good this year Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Unknøwn 13,546 Posted October 19, 2020 Author Share Posted October 19, 2020 Id give Turner a 2 year deal. Riley can come off the bench and be a backup 1B/3B/LF while working to get better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Unknøwn 13,546 Posted October 19, 2020 Author Share Posted October 19, 2020 Here is an article that might make you feel a little better. Its titled Why the best is yet to come for the Atlanta Braves Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ghosts of Glanville 3,517 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Ozuna hinges on the DH staying. He will be 30 next year and his defense will only get worse. He will likely require a 4 year deal and that could be an albatross if he has to butcher LF in his age 32 and 33 years. No DH spot, no Ozuna Passprotection 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Unknøwn 13,546 Posted October 19, 2020 Author Share Posted October 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, Ghosts of Glanville said: Ozuna hinges on the DH staying. He will be 30 next year and his defense will only get worse. He will likely require a 4 year deal and that could be an albatross if he has to butcher LF in his age 32 and 33 years. No DH spot, no Ozuna The catch is the DH will be added in 2022. Do you live with him in LF for 1 year? Or do you cut him loose now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falconsd56 26,529 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Not really sold on a replacement for Riley just yet. He has some work to do but the talent is there. He played rock solid defense at third (a couple throwing errors aside) and showed improvement at the plate. He just needs to find a bridge to hitting the fast ball like he did in 19 and the breaking stuff in 2020. AUTiger7222 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jidady 10,382 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Mark Melancon, Marcell Ozuna, Shane Greene, and Pablo Sandoval are the players I want back. We were too sentimental about Nick, and it bit us. As for Riley, he knows what he has to do, and he'll probably have until June or so to work on it. I'm not worried about him at all. falconsd56 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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