NLCS: Dodgers vs Braves

[jidady]

17 minutes ago, Unknøwn said:

Dansby really stepped up in this series with an OPS of .828.

Dansby was awesome, but he still pulled a Lonnie Smith that's gonna sting for a while.

[Unknøwn]

3 minutes ago, jidady said:

Dansby was awesome, but he still pulled a Lonnie Smith that's gonna sting for a while.

Yeah, baserunning was not our strength in this series.

[Redjack]

5 hours ago, oztin said:

Feel we are 1 starting pitcher away. If we didn't need to use are bullpon so much I think the Dodgers would have had a harder time.

I can’t figure out if I favor Bauer or Ozuna anymore.

[falconsd56]

2 minutes ago, jidady said:

Dansby was awesome, but he still pulled a Lonnie Smith that's gonna sting for a while.

Imo the biggest mistake there was Riley.

I don't mind Dansby's running as much because he is fast and it puts pressure on Turner to make a perfect throw.

The problem was Riley getting out at 3rd.

Had he just kept running then it is 1st and 3rd with 1 out with  Pache coming up.

 

[Unknøwn]

Last night I was ready to never watch sports ever again. As the day has progressed I've been able to appreciate what they accomplished. It was nice to be on the other side of the NLDS for a change. We smacked the Dodgers in the mouth harder than they were all year. I think it was Bellinger who called the Braves a great team last night. Said the series was really tough. I would be 0% surprised if they 2021 NLCS is Braves vs Dodgers.

[Unknøwn]

 

[jidady]

56 minutes ago, Unknøwn said:

Yeah, baserunning was not our strength in this series.

I'm laughing at this to avoid crying.

He'll learn from it, but he HAS to understand positioning in that situation...and then Riley full on panicked. We actually had that happen three times in the series. Albies did it on the final out, and then Freddie did it on a groundball that became an out anyway.

You could definitely tell that the stakes were raised.

[jidady]

56 minutes ago, falconsd56 said:

Imo the biggest mistake there was Riley.

I don't mind Dansby's running as much because he is fast and it puts pressure on Turner to make a perfect throw.

The problem was Riley getting out at 3rd.

Had he just kept running then it is 1st and 3rd with 1 out with  Pache coming up.

 

They were both cripplers. Dansby didn't pay attention to the positioning. Then, as he drowned, he brought Riley down with him. During the playoffs, we handled several rundowns very well. However, when we got caught in one, we got an F- on the play.

In game seven, the Dodgers were brilliant at deep counts and fouling off strike three. Even so, the two differences in the game were Mookie's catch and that rundown. If either of those plays flips, the outcome probably does, too.

[jidady]

58 minutes ago, Unknøwn said:

Last night I was ready to never watch sports ever again. As the day has progressed I've been able to appreciate what they accomplished. It was nice to be on the other side of the NLDS for a change. We smacked the Dodgers in the mouth harder than they were all year. I think it was Bellinger who called the Braves a great team last night. Said the series was really tough. I would be 0% surprised if they 2021 NLCS is Braves vs Dodgers.

The most remarkable part is that you and I joked about our potential #2 starter for like two months. The Braves did this without any reliable starters beyond Fried.

As we move forward, Anderson looks legit, and both Wilson and Wright flashed. I'm also dead serious that we should take a look at AJ Minter as a starter. That's on top of the fact that a healthy Soroka gives Atlanta the best 1/2 punch in baseball, presuming Fried's ascension holds.

We had a *bullpen game* in game 5 of the NLCS, and we still came within two runs of the World Series.

Today sucks, but this will be a fun offseason for Braves fans.

[falconsd56]

10 minutes ago, jidady said:

They were both cripplers. Dansby didn't pay attention to the positioning. Then, as he drowned, he brought Riley down with him. During the playoffs, we handled several rundowns very well. However, when we got caught in one, we got an F- on the play.

In game seven, the Dodgers were brilliant at deep counts and fouling off strike three. Even so, the two differences in the game were Mookie's catch and that rundown. If either of those plays flips, the outcome probably does, too.

Oh they both hurt no doubt

[Born Again Georgian]

1 hour ago, Unknøwn said:

Last night I was ready to never watch sports ever again. As the day has progressed I've been able to appreciate what they accomplished. It was nice to be on the other side of the NLDS for a change. We smacked the Dodgers in the mouth harder than they were all year. I think it was Bellinger who called the Braves a great team last night. Said the series was really tough. I would be 0% surprised if they 2021 NLCS is Braves vs Dodgers.

Yeah, I’m right there with you.  I was salty as **** going to bed, but I woke up with a better attitude and perspective.  The Dodgers were the number 1 seed for a reason, and we fought tooth and nail with a patch work starting rotation.  Get some help on offense and solidify our starters, we’re back in it.

[AUTiger7222]

1 hour ago, falconsd56 said:

Imo the biggest mistake there was Riley.

I don't mind Dansby's running as much because he is fast and it puts pressure on Turner to make a perfect throw.

The problem was Riley getting out at 3rd.

Had he just kept running then it is 1st and 3rd with 1 out with  Pache coming up.

 

What bites about the whole thing is the Dodgers were giving the Braves the run. All Markakis had to do was hit a grounder to 1st or 2nd. That's something he did a million times this year and of course he hits it right at Turner and that's the end of that. Figures the Braves lost by 1 after that happened. 3 **** hits? The Riley RBI single was the last hit of the game for the Braves. They had 1 baserunner the rest of the game. That's embarrassing. Offense failed this team miserably the last 3 games. The Braves whole approach the last 3 games was pathetic. They were all trying to hard to hit homeruns to keep up with all the homeruns the Dodgers were hitting and it didn't work. Instead we hit a ton of weak fly balls. Balls that were hit well (95 plus mph) but didn't have any carry to them because they were hit at such a high launch angle. That ball that Riley hit to end the game was over 100 mph but went nowhere because of the launch angle.

[AUTiger7222]

1 hour ago, Unknøwn said:

Last night I was ready to never watch sports ever again. As the day has progressed I've been able to appreciate what they accomplished. It was nice to be on the other side of the NLDS for a change. We smacked the Dodgers in the mouth harder than they were all year. I think it was Bellinger who called the Braves a great team last night. Said the series was really tough. I would be 0% surprised if they 2021 NLCS is Braves vs Dodgers.

Same. I was in no mood to ever watch any sports ever again after last night. But I woke up this morning in a place of mind where I can appreciate that this team went farther than I ever imagined. I was in the same boat as @jidady where I said the season was over when Soroka got hurt and so I didn't mind that the Braves didn't sell the farm to go all in. Never in a million years did I see Wright and Wilson completely turning it around and helping to fill that major hole that the Braves had in their pitting staff. On paper the Braves were badly overmatched against the Dodgers and they took them all the way to game 7. Yeah, you can ***** and moan about same ole Braves all you want to but that's not true. The same ole Braves would have lost to the Reds or Marlins and would have done it in embarrassing fashion. This team won 7 straight games to open the playoffs and looked amazing doing it. But playing 7 games in 7 days eventually caught up to them and we ran out of pitching and hitting against the much deeper Dodgers roster. This playoff experience is invaluable moving forward, especially when it comes to guys like Wright and Wilson. There is no excuse for them to ever go back to ****ting the bed on a regular basis. That's great news moving forward. The Braves are in a great position moving forward!! The future is extremely bright!! Yes, losing to the Dodgers the way they did sucks, but if you can't realize this team did far more than they ever should have and that doesn't have you excited for next year then you're hopeless. You'd be better off just going and becoming a fan of the Dodgers or Yankees or someone else because you **** sure aren't a tried and true Braves fan.

[putnam6]

16 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said:

Man, you have Auburn’s NC in 2011 at least.  I am a Braves, Hawks, Falcons & UGA fan.  I got a throw in WS in “95.   That’s it

Yep, and I can't do like some other people who adopt other teams, I mean I got other teams I like but **** I grew up watching these teams since the 70's.  LOL my brother cried when they traded Felix Milan **** I was in crappy mood for a week when they traded Phil Niekro. Just watching other teams win, teams that weren't even around when I was a kid. 

[Ghosts of Glanville]

43 minutes ago, Born Again Georgian said:

Yeah, I’m right there with you.  I was salty as **** going to bed, but I woke up with a better attitude and perspective.  The Dodgers were the number 1 seed for a reason, and we fought tooth and nail with a patch work starting rotation.  Get some help on offense and solidify our starters, we’re back in it.

I guess they’ve worn me down.  After the last out I stared at the floor for a minute, mumbled ‘**** it’ and went to bed.   Slept just fine.  

[TheTrue7]

1 hour ago, Ghosts of Glanville said:

I guess they’ve worn me down.  After the last out I stared at the floor for a minute, mumbled ‘**** it’ and went to bed.   Slept just fine.  

It’s entertainment.. just sometimes, the ending sucks.. 

[K26dp]

Hey folks. That sucked. Hope everybody made it safely back off the ledge.

[Akod2017]

4 hours ago, RightInTwo said:

I can’t figure out if I favor Bauer or Ozuna anymore.

Bauer, this year is an outlier for Ozuna. He can’t play defense and certainly can’t run the bases. I’d rather pay Cruz on a one year deal than have the “oh great we are on the hook for x amount of years and x amount of dollars for this scrub” conversation when Ozuna falls off. Easily predictable outcome here. With Bauer my hope is 3 healthy high end starters for the playoffs. Let’s say Anderson has a sophomore slump, Fried or Soroka is injured, or even Bauer continues his every other year high end production we still have depth. 

[Malachore]

5 hours ago, jidady said:

The most remarkable part is that you and I joked about our potential #2 starter for like two months. The Braves did this without any reliable starters beyond Fried.

As we move forward, Anderson looks legit, and both Wilson and Wright flashed. I'm also dead serious that we should take a look at AJ Minter as a starter. That's on top of the fact that a healthy Soroka gives Atlanta the best 1/2 punch in baseball, presuming Fried's ascension holds.

We had a *bullpen game* in game 5 of the NLCS, and we still came within two runs of the World Series.

Today sucks, but this will be a fun offseason for Braves fans.

I mentioned Minter as a SP the other day as well, people didn't think it would work. He started in College 5(?) years ago so it hasn't been that long. Just not sure if he has enough pitches to be successful more than a couple times through the order.

[Unknøwn]

4 minutes ago, Malachore said:

I mentioned Minter as a SP the other day as well, people didn't think it would work. He started in College 5(?) years ago so it hasn't been that long. Just not sure if he has enough pitches to be successful more than a couple times through the order.

He makes a really good opener but hes a max effort guy. Not built for long outings, hes meant to come out and go full blast for 1 or 2 innings. 

[tl;dr]

10 hours ago, jidady said:

The most remarkable part is that you and I joked about our potential #2 starter for like two months. The Braves did this without any reliable starters beyond Fried.

As we move forward, Anderson looks legit, and both Wilson and Wright flashed. I'm also dead serious that we should take a look at AJ Minter as a starter. That's on top of the fact that a healthy Soroka gives Atlanta the best 1/2 punch in baseball, presuming Fried's ascension holds.

We had a *bullpen game* in game 5 of the NLCS, and we still came within two runs of the World Series.

Today sucks, but this will be a fun offseason for Braves fans.

I hope it will be a fun offseason for real. I'm happy with our top 3 starters, and I think Wright and Wilson have earned a shot to compete for the 4 and 5 spots in the rotation. If Wright and Wilson build on the strong ends of their seasons (Wright was very good sans game 3) SP can be a strength for us.

I hope Minter stays in the pen, because he proved to be reliable this year I thought. Better SP only helps our pen which should be good again. Still could use Melancon and Greene back and maybe another arm too. 

Our bench is such a weak spot though. That's probably what we need to upgrade the most. Maybe Waters can give us some help on that front...

[Malachore]

9 hours ago, tl;dr said:

I hope it will be a fun offseason for real. I'm happy with our top 3 starters, and I think Wright and Wilson have earned a shot to compete for the 4 and 5 spots in the rotation. If Wright and Wilson build on the strong ends of their seasons (Wright was very good sans game 3) SP can be a strength for us.

I hope Minter stays in the pen, because he proved to be reliable this year I thought. Better SP only helps our pen which should be good again. Still could use Melancon and Greene back and maybe another arm too. 

Our bench is such a weak spot though. That's probably what we need to upgrade the most. Maybe Waters can give us some help on that front...

I would be surprised if Waters makes the team out of Spring Training. You can’t just cost him ABs by using him as a bench bat, he needs as many as possible and he's a switch hitter so a platoon doesn't make sense either.

[tl;dr]

42 minutes ago, Malachore said:

I would be surprised if Waters makes the team out of Spring Training. You can’t just cost him ABs by using him as a bench bat, he needs as many as possible and he's a switch hitter so a platoon doesn't make sense either.

I honestly didn't even think about that aspect of it. 

[ATL58]

I severely overreacted to the result and I am truly sorry. No excuses. I apologize. Back off the ledge now. 

[ATL58]

I saw the post someone made about our starting 8 and our pitching staff with their ages out to the right. It hit me how young this team is  Freddie is the only one I remember being over 30, most 26 and under. I think we’ll be ok for a while. 
 

Guys like Austin Riley needs to work with whomever worked with Duvall on hitting approach. There are some mechanical issues but he needs a better plan or approach at the plate. If I recall Dansby was at this point a couple of years ago. 

Edited October 21, 2020 by Trump MAGA