capitan 170 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 I have been wondering why they have not made mandatory before now. Whether to prevent injuries or to improve the quality of the game, football should be played on grass and dirt...period!!! My two cents on the matter.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Iron Saint 1,171 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 These injuries aren't due to turf vs. grass. They're due to poor maintenance of those fields. The pig slops in Chicago, Washington, and Tennessee are far worse than any artificial fields because the fields are overused and/or their grounds crews are trash at their job. Put natural grass in MetLife and nothing changes for the better because the Giants/Jets' grounds crew obviously can't maintain their turf and they're more than likely not any better with maintaining a natural grass field. AUTiger7222 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Scott 1,371 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 On 10/3/2020 at 2:56 PM, Iron Saint said: These injuries aren't due to turf vs. grass. They're due to poor maintenance of those fields. The pig slops in Chicago, Washington, and Tennessee are far worse than any artificial fields because the fields are overused and/or their grounds crews are trash at their job. Put natural grass in MetLife and nothing changes for the better because the Giants/Jets' grounds crew obviously can't maintain their turf and they're more than likely not any better with maintaining a natural grass field. The increasing number of injuries is due more to bigger stronger athletes being able to run faster and hit harder than in years past. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Iron Saint 1,171 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 12 hours ago, Trump MAGA said: The increasing number of injuries is due more to bigger stronger athletes being able to run faster and hit harder than in years past. I agree with that, combined with the heavy restrictions now in place for training camps across the league regarding how many padded practices teams are allowed to have within a set number of days, ect, players just don’t have enough time to physically prepare their bodies for the abuse they absorb throughout a NFL season. But the OP started this thread specifically blaming turf fields vs. grass fields. If it was as black/white as they’re saying then these devastating injuries would be occurring with much more frequency on turf fields, but not grass fields. Domed Outter 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
grandcanyonaz 166 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 How are you going to grow grass in a dome? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyFranchise 1,539 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 On 10/11/2020 at 6:06 PM, grandcanyonaz said: How are you going to grow grass in a dome? Ask the cardinals Quote Link to post Share on other sites
grandcanyonaz 166 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Yeah they have turf that rolls out and rolls in and it takes hours. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyFranchise 1,539 Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 On 10/12/2020 at 8:16 PM, grandcanyonaz said: Yeah they have turf that rolls out and rolls in and it takes hours. yes, i'm well aware of what they've got, just saying that it is possible to have grass in a dome stadium Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AUTiger7222 6,438 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 On 10/18/2020 at 4:14 PM, JohnnyFranchise said: yes, i'm well aware of what they've got, just saying that it is possible to have grass in a dome stadium Not every dome stadium is built with the field on wheels and a giant door that allows it to move in or out. Teams have tried to find ways to grow natural grass in dome stadiums and it just doesn't work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spts1 6,607 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 On 10/3/2020 at 2:56 PM, Iron Saint said: These injuries aren't due to turf vs. grass. They're due to poor maintenance of those fields. The pig slops in Chicago, Washington, and Tennessee are far worse than any artificial fields because the fields are overused and/or their grounds crews are trash at their job. Put natural grass in MetLife and nothing changes for the better because the Giants/Jets' grounds crew obviously can't maintain their turf and they're more than likely not any better with maintaining a natural grass field. better turf? They need to dismantle that whole dump in New Orleans... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Iron Saint 1,171 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 On 10/24/2020 at 8:50 AM, Spts1 said: better turf? They need to dismantle that whole dump in New Orleans... Rather win in a dump than lose in glorious fashion every week in an empty, overpriced shopping mall Spts1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheTrue7 5,211 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 13 hours ago, Iron Saint said: Rather win in a dump than lose in glorious fashion every week in an empty, overpriced shopping mall That’s not a fan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Iron Saint 1,171 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 6 hours ago, TheTrue7 said: That’s not a fan Care to elaborate exactly how stadium preference correlates to fandom? 🤨 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheTrue7 5,211 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 7 hours ago, Iron Saint said: Care to elaborate exactly how stadium preference correlates to fandom? 🤨 Seemed to me by your comment, you felt the one you were speaking to was a Falcon fan. That’s not the case. Iron Saint 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Iron Saint 1,171 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 8 hours ago, TheTrue7 said: Seemed to me by your comment, you felt the one you were speaking to was a Falcon fan. That’s not the case. I think I misread your original reply then. I read it as “preferring to win in an old stadium over losing in a new stadium” makes a person a bad fan, instead of that specific person not being a Falcons fan. TheTrue7 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyFranchise 1,539 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 On 10/27/2020 at 1:07 AM, Iron Saint said: Rather win in a dump than lose in glorious fashion every week in an empty, overpriced shopping mall I still don't get the shopping mall reference Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AUTiger7222 6,438 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 25 minutes ago, JohnnyFranchise said: I still don't get the shopping mall reference He's probably saying it's empty like a mall. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fuego 16,059 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 10/18/2020 at 5:14 PM, JohnnyFranchise said: yes, i'm well aware of what they've got, just saying that it is possible to have grass in a dome stadium On 10/24/2020 at 2:54 AM, AUTiger7222 said: Not every dome stadium is built with the field on wheels and a giant door that allows it to move in or out. Teams have tried to find ways to grow natural grass in dome stadiums and it just doesn't work. Exactly. No way to install that that kind of system once a dome has already been built. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyFranchise 1,539 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 2 hours ago, fuego said: Exactly. No way to install that that kind of system once a dome has already been built. Absolutely. I was originally just responding to the "growing grass in a dome" comment, in a fairly sarcastic way 😎 I think a stadium could be (very expensively, mind you) retrofitted to allow for that kind of a pitch, but you'd obvioulsy need to have plenty of space around the stadium to make it work. Not very practical. I have to say, it always surprises me that there are a bunch of mlb ballparks with grass fields and fully retractable roofs but not one nfl stadium built like that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AUTiger7222 6,438 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 9 hours ago, JohnnyFranchise said: Absolutely. I was originally just responding to the "growing grass in a dome" comment, in a fairly sarcastic way 😎 I think a stadium could be (very expensively, mind you) retrofitted to allow for that kind of a pitch, but you'd obvioulsy need to have plenty of space around the stadium to make it work. Not very practical. I have to say, it always surprises me that there are a bunch of mlb ballparks with grass fields and fully retractable roofs but not one nfl stadium built like that. To my knowledge there are no MLB retractable roof stadiums with real grass fields. It was attempted in Arizona, but again, it didn't work and they eventually had to put in fake grass. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyFranchise 1,539 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, AUTiger7222 said: To my knowledge there are no MLB retractable roof stadiums with real grass fields. It was attempted in Arizona, but again, it didn't work and they eventually had to put in fake grass. Seattle, Milwaukee, and Houston for sure, I didn't know that Arizona had switched. I thought Miami as well but I was wrong about that one. Edited November 4, 2020 by JohnnyFranchise AUTiger7222 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faithful Falcon 7,897 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 On 11/4/2020 at 1:05 PM, AUTiger7222 said: To my knowledge there are no MLB retractable roof stadiums with real grass fields. It was attempted in Arizona, but again, it didn't work and they eventually had to put in fake grass. Arizona still has real grass. The field retracts to the outside. The Raiders also has natural grass. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AUTiger7222 6,438 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 8 hours ago, Faithful Falcon said: Arizona still has real grass. The field retracts to the outside. The Raiders also has natural grass. We were talking about baseball stadiums. Faithful Falcon 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faithful Falcon 7,897 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 2 hours ago, AUTiger7222 said: We were talking about baseball stadiums. My bad. 😂 JohnnyFranchise and AUTiger7222 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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