matty72780 679 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Check out the Falcons HC list from 2004 to present day. With the exception of DQ, NONE of these coaches are in the NFL within any capacity. That says it all that this front-office is CLUELESS when it comes to hiring someone to run this team. The NFL seems to be a game of musical chairs, one coach gets fired, another team hires that coach to coach their team, NOPE, not the Falcons. Not one of these names is still in the NFL and none of them ever got a HC position in the NFL again (including Quinn once Blank fires him). Jim Mora Bobby Petrino Emmitt Thomas Mike Smith Dan Quinn It’s so sad to watch this Julio/Ryan window close with no Lombardi to support how dynamic they’ve been. Now we’re going to have to hire a new coach, then it’ll take a couple years to get acclimated, then Matt Ryan and Julio Jones will be in the twilight of their careers and won’t be able to produce. Just a never ending circle of disaster in Atlanta - Blank sure knows how to sell hammers at Home Depot but is worthless when it comes to building a capable coaching tree. Can’t wait to see all the meaningless games we will win and totally demolish our draft position, just like we have the last 2 years. Arthur, where’s the accountability? lee sunset, HASHBROWN3, mtldirtybird and 7 others 10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sdogg 9,791 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 It's why I'm ready for a new owner. Football just isn't AB’s thing. Pacific_Falcon, supercollider, robertap and 5 others 5 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Herr Beast 1,823 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 AB is way too worried to always keep „Good Company“. He values personal relations over winning. He does not seem to understand that the fans only care about winning. sdogg, dfsutton, ThemDarnFalconsBoy! and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jlrfalcon 4,078 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, sdogg said: It's why I'm ready for a new owner. Football just isn't AB’s thing. I sense he is like a Supreme Court Justice that will be in office until his death bed. sdogg 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
raysnill1 12,128 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 I'm curious to see how this is gonna be TD's fault. I hope y'all don't disappoint Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Geaux_Falcons 1,173 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Meh, I appreciate Blank going out and hiring firms to find a worthy HC. Not many will do that, and rely solely on a VP or GM to find the right guy. Blank isn't the issue. If we simply kick the FG in 51, Blanks investment would have already paid off in the first 2 years. Unfortunately, DQ hasn't found a way to get back to the promise land to redeem himself. quickzero, rounz, Fiercefalcon and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matty72780 679 Posted September 20, 2020 Author Share Posted September 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Geaux_Falcons said: Meh, I appreciate Blank going out and hiring firms to find a worthy HC. Not many will do that, and rely solely on a VP or GM to find the right guy. Blank isn't the issue. If we simply kick the FG in 51, Blanks investment would have already paid off in the first 2 years. Unfortunately, DQ hasn't found a way to get back to the promise land to redeem himself. It starts at the top and whatever those “firms” are to help find a head coach need to give AB his money back because not any of the 31 additional NFL football teams hired any of our past HC’s. So you appreciating the fact AB hires coaches that amount to nothing in the NFL might be dumber than us not jumping on the onside kick today. sdogg and supercollider 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sdogg 9,791 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 If he uses another firm, he hasn't learned a thing. That firm has failed him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Geaux_Falcons 1,173 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 8 hours ago, matty72780 said: It starts at the top and whatever those “firms” are to help find a head coach need to give AB his money back because not any of the 31 additional NFL football teams hired any of our past HC’s. So you appreciating the fact AB hires coaches that amount to nothing in the NFL might be dumber than us not jumping on the onside kick today. This has got to be a joke right?! Mike Smith retired from coaching after getting a job in Tampa and being there for a few years. Petrino ran back to the college ranks without even allowing the season to end, nor look for another gig in the NFL and so did Mora. Some coaches would rather stay at the college ranks where it's much safer to be at. Why do you think David shaw, Nick Saban, Urban Meyer, and so many others aren't jumping to the NFL? Everybody wants Lincoln Riley, but you didn't see him jump at an opportunity the last few years. Josh McDaniels has been a HC, and also backed out of being a HC again. Being a HC is rigorous, and not everyone is suited for it. You know how many FOTM coordinators have taken a job, and not cut it?! Too many to count. Most end up back as a coordinator, and never try to be a HC again. Just because no other team decides to go after a former HC, doesn't mean the prior team is poorly managed by the owner. NashvilleFalcon01, Fiercefalcon, VTCrunkler and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ezekiel 25:17 17,422 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 38 minutes ago, sdogg said: It's why I'm ready for a new owner. Football just isn't AB’s thing. That includes Soccer as well. it’s like everything he touches turns to $hit! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ezekiel 25:17 17,422 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 16 minutes ago, sdogg said: If he uses another firm, he hasn't learned a thing. That firm has failed him. Well the firm that hired the current coach is named Arther Blank. So... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UnrealfalcoN 4,128 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, Geaux_Falcons said: This has got to be a joke right?! Mike Smith retired from coaching after getting a job in Tampa and being there for a few years. Petrino ran back to the college ranks without even allowing the season to end, nor look for another gig in the NFL and so did Mora. Some coaches would rather stay at the college ranks where it's much safer to be at. Why do you think David shaw, Nick Saban, Urban Meyer, and so many others aren't jumping to the NFL? Everybody wants Lincoln Riley, but you didn't see him jump at an opportunity the last few years. Josh McDaniels has been a HC, and also backed out of being a HC again. Being a HC is rigorous, and not everyone is suited for it. You know how many FOTM coordinators have taken a job, and not cut it?! Too many to count. Most end up back as a coordinator, and never try to be a HC again. Just because no other team decides to go after a former HC, doesn't mean the prior team is poorly managed by the owner. Hey man, how dare you bring logic into the whining? Rhodaric 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Geaux_Falcons 1,173 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 8 hours ago, Ezekiel 25:17 said: That includes Soccer as well. it’s like everything he touches turns to $hit! The same soccer team that won a championship in it's 2nd season since they debuted?! United lost their best player, who is one of the best players in the league, to injuries this year. rounz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ezekiel 25:17 17,422 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, Geaux_Falcons said: The same soccer team that won a championship in it's 2nd season since they debuted?! United lost their best player, who is one of the best players in the league, to injuries this year. Yeah, since the other owners care like they do in the NFL. NO way are you comparing the competitiveness of a league that is at best third best in the world to the NFL supercollider 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconsIn2012 35,693 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 49 minutes ago, raysnill1 said: I'm curious to see how this is gonna be TD's fault. I hope y'all don't disappoint The salary cap in 2021 is on TD. So is his constant desire to use 2nd/3rd round draft capital to trade up into the 1st round for a dude he has tunnel vision for sdogg and Pacific_Falcon 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sdogg 9,791 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Herr Beast said: AB is way too worried to always keep „Good Company“. He values personal relations over winning. He does not seem to understand that the fans only care about winning. Absolutely nailed it. AB needs to stop getting too close to his employees. Ezekiel 25:17 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matty72780 679 Posted September 20, 2020 Author Share Posted September 20, 2020 35 minutes ago, Geaux_Falcons said: This has got to be a joke right?! Mike Smith retired from coaching after getting a job in Tampa and being there for a few years. Petrino ran back to the college ranks without even allowing the season to end, nor look for another gig in the NFL and so did Mora. Some coaches would rather stay at the college ranks where it's much safer to be at. Why do you think David shaw, Nick Saban, Urban Meyer, and so many others aren't jumping to the NFL? Everybody wants Lincoln Riley, but you didn't see him jump at an opportunity the last few years. Josh McDaniels has been a HC, and also backed out of being a HC again. Being a HC is rigorous, and not everyone is suited for it. You know how many FOTM coordinators have taken a job, and not cut it?! Too many to count. Most end up back as a coordinator, and never try to be a HC again. Just because no other team decides to go after a former HC, doesn't mean the prior team is poorly managed by the owner. You proved my point for me. Arthur Blank doesn’t hire proven winners and/or coaches in the NFL, which is also why NONE of our past HC’s have any affiliation with an NFL team now. Wow, Mike Smith got a demotion, that’s still proves my point he was never an NFL caliber HC. The point I’m making is that hiring a solid NFL head coach with a proven record of success puts us in a position to not having to worry about a coach running back to college because “it’s easier”. You clearly missed the entire point of the post. Ezekiel 25:17 and sdogg 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ezekiel 25:17 17,422 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 By the way... That two point conversion that cost us a point.... sdogg, NashvilleFalcon01, Ergo Proxy and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Geaux_Falcons 1,173 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 8 hours ago, Ezekiel 25:17 said: Yeah, since the other owners care like they do in the NFL. NO way are you comparing the competitiveness of a league that is at best third best in the world to the NFL You're fooling yourself if you think the NFL is the most competitive league in the world, but even then, what does that have to do United winning a major sports championship? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ezekiel 25:17 17,422 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 22 minutes ago, Geaux_Falcons said: You're fooling yourself if you think the NFL is the most competitive league in the world, but even then, what does that have to do United winning a major sports championship? You’re fooling yourself if you think the MLS is anything near a competitive league in the world! And since you want to ignore it, I was saying that Blank won a championship that no one was taking serious and still aren’t. As it is at best four most important league in the country and won’t even mention the world, as you confirmed yourself. Thanks from proving my f’cking point! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ezekiel 25:17 17,422 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 30 minutes ago, matty72780 said: You proved my point for me. Arthur Blank doesn’t hire proven winners and/or coaches in the NFL, which is also why NONE of our past HC’s have any affiliation with an NFL team now. Wow, Mike Smith got a demotion, that’s still proves my point he was never an NFL caliber HC. The point I’m making is that hiring a solid NFL head coach with a proven record of success puts us in a position to not having to worry about a coach running back to college because “it’s easier”. You clearly missed the entire point of the post. He is really good at proven our points. That’s his super power! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ezekiel 25:17 17,422 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 hour ago, raysnill1 said: I'm curious to see how this is gonna be TD's fault. I hope y'all don't disappoint I think he has a part in the overall result, but today is ALL on coaching. Quinn had this game won and found a way to lose it. Bigbenright 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ezekiel 25:17 17,422 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 hour ago, UnrealfalcoN said: Hey man, how dare you bring logic into the whining? Hold on, he let logic slip out the door so be careful! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WhenFalconsWin 27,933 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Herr Beast said: AB is way too worried to always keep „Good Company“. He values personal relations over winning. He does not seem to understand that the fans only care about winning. Give me ******** and bad company because that's usually what the winner are. F*** friendship and relations ships I need a SB before I'm on a cold slab bishes. sdogg 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Geaux_Falcons 1,173 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 8 hours ago, matty72780 said: You proved my point for me. Arthur Blank doesn’t hire proven winners and/or coaches in the NFL, which is also why NONE of our past HC’s have any affiliation with an NFL team now. Wow, Mike Smith got a demotion, that’s still proves my point he was never an NFL caliber HC. The point I’m making is that hiring a solid NFL head coach with a proven record of success puts us in a position to not having to worry about a coach running back to college because “it’s easier”. You clearly missed the entire point of the post. Sounds more like you're trying to flip what I said and push your agenda. How many former HC's are successful retreads?! Right now, only about 7 HC's are retreads and that number includes Adam Gase. The others are Reid, BB, Pete Carroll, John Gruden, McCarthy and Rivera. Not to mention most on that list were young enough to consider being a HC again at the time when they did. Of those 7, only 3 have won a SB since joining their 2nd team. Reid just did it last year after being in KC for 7 years. Again, so many FOTM coordinators get jobs as HC, and end up right back as coordinators. TATF wants Kubiak as HC, but he's not even interested in being a HC. Some people just choose to not deal with being a HC and prefer being a coordinator. Mike Smith did so, and then decided he no longer wanted to coach at all. The college coaches simply go back to college as a HC. Jim Harbaugh would rather coach Michigan than coach in the NFL right now. Finding a HC is a lot harder than what you make it to be. Right now Eric Bieniemy is the hot name circulating. What happens if we hire him, and he flops harder than Quinn has?! Is that going to be Blanks fault?! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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