Training Camp Notes 09/01

[hjerry 26,682]

Just now, Ergo Proxy said:

This is literally a thread on camp notes and reports. What do you WANT from us!!  

Just giving my opinion on the reports, same as anyone. Don't worry. My one dissenting opinion should easily be offset by all the hype he's getting from others.

Carry on

[Ergo Proxy 26,135]

6 minutes ago, hjerry said:

I don't hate him, I'm just not getting excited. That's all

To be fair, I'm taking the same wait and see approach on anyone who hasn't produced for us, until I see it on the field. That includes rookies too, and coaches. Hill just ends up being the subject matter, because he's getting hyped more than any non-past producer on these boards right now. Others are bringing him up and talking about him far more than I am. This is just a single response on the subject.

Well, when he was a complimentary back the final few weeks of the year; especially once Lindstrom was back. He had 22 carries for 150 yards. Not bad. We also were misplaying our backs in an inside tackles run scheme too often last year. Even Freeman was terrible! So, guys can go hot and cold as well. Just saying.

I think Free and every RB on the roster today are pretty much better suited for 1 cut pure zone systems.

Hill has been inconsistent so far but he has produced some. The question is can he build or will he fade? I hope the noise is legit. The details of being able to pass block will give him more reps, too.

[Ergo Proxy 26,135]

5 minutes ago, hjerry said:

Just giving my opinion on the reports, same as anyone. Don't worry. My one dissenting opinion should easily be offset by all the hype he's getting from others.

Carry on

No man, I get it I was just kidding. No apologies needed good sir. We want our draft investments to do something! 2017 has been our worst draft in recent history; as of today. Hot/cold Kazee. Takk not quite being that guy and hurt otherwise. And the rest silence. Hill becoming a contributor would salvage that draft somewhat.

Duke...Saubert...HARLOW...man that draft has been a smoking pile. Primarily Harlow doing nothing and Duke being a big mistake pick for their draft position. Usually TD hits HRs with 3rd and 4th rounders. Tbd on Kazee and perhaps Hill.

Edited September 2, 2020 by Ergo Proxy

[Tim Mazetti 12,136]

1 hour ago, gazoo said:

Look, defenses are going to be playing on their heels if we have a successful running game like I think we will.

And even without a great running game, if the OL blocks pass rushers, the Falcons will be devastating.

Offensive line is key as always.

[FalconsIn2012 35,705]

 

[FalconsIn2012 35,705]

58 minutes ago, hjerry said:

Your examples are of people who practiced well in their rookie seasons and it was reflected in games, not of players who have had chances but haven't produced in games, but we're supposed to get excited about them because of training camp reports.

If Brian Hill starts producing, I'll be first in line to sing his praises, same for any player on this team, but game experience has shown him to be meh, no matter what some say, that is reality, so practice reports won't do anything to change opinions grounded in what really matters.

As I said last year, Brian Hill can be a very good RB2 who can fill in as RB1 for a few games if need be.
 

But the fact all the coaches say his name each day tells you a little something about him...and now players are, too.  Clearly he is standing out in camp.  Let’s see if it transitions

But it’s ok for fans to get excited about players getting positive reviews in camp.  

[Ovie_Lover 29,838]

2 minutes ago, FalconsIn2012 said:

As I said last year, Brian Hill can be a very good RB2 who can fill in as RB1 for a few games if need be.
 

But the fact all the coaches say his name each day tells you a little something about him...and now players are, too.  Clearly he is standing out in camp.  Let’s see if it transitions

But it’s ok for fans to get excited about players getting positive reviews in camp.  

Saubert was talked about everyday.

[Xfactor 4,191]

3 hours ago, 1989Fan said:

It’s gonna be a big problem for teams if Ridley takes that leap and teams can’t just blanket JJ all game. Add in the progression of Gage and Hurst...oh boy!

I think Ridley is going to have a big year

[JayOzOne 20,230]

Kurty Ice getting air under the ball.

 

 

[FalconsIn2012 35,705]

54 minutes ago, Ovie_Lover said:

Saubert was talked about everyday.

He was...you’re not wrong.  For every 10 unsung guys hyped up in TC, 8 probably end up as nothing much. But every good NFL player was hyped in camp...so if you get no hype it’s a problem.  The fact guys like Hill, Walker, AJ, Hawkins, Lindstrom & Henn are getting recognition is a step in the right direction

[NorthGaBoy 1,456]

3 hours ago, Ovie_Lover said:

Every year we have practice champions and every year they're never heard of again. And every year people don't learn...

Oh, they had better learn.  We cannot have people listening to positive news out of Flowery Branch and then becoming hopeful for the season.  We cannot have that.  Everyone, stop that.  Stop that right now. 

ROFLMAO.

[NorthGaBoy 1,456]

2 hours ago, Ovie_Lover said:

Examples would help your argument. 

Jesse Tuggle.  Jamal Anderson.

Edited September 2, 2020 by NaGaBoy

[vel 32,297]

1 hour ago, Ergo Proxy said:

Well, when he was a complimentary back the final few weeks of the year; especially once Lindstrom was back. He had 22 carries for 150 yards. Not bad. We also were misplaying our backs in an inside tackles run scheme too often last year. Even Freeman was terrible! So, guys can go hot and cold as well. Just saying.

I think Free and every RB on the roster today are pretty much better suited for 1 cut pure zone systems.

Hill has been inconsistent so far but he has produced some. The question is can he build or will he fade? I hope the noise is legit. The details of being able to pass block will give him more reps, too.

The reason I'm optimistic about Hill is because the things he was good at weren't a fluke. The OL and running scheme were a mess last year. Didn't matter who was back there. If Hill struggled and the others were good, then I'd get it. But the team averaged 3.8 YPC. Hill was 4.1 YPC. 

He's got good size, is good in space, can catch, and is a physical runner. If the OL and running scheme are synced up, Hill should put up numbers. 

[vel 32,297]

30 minutes ago, FalconsIn2012 said:

He was...you’re not wrong.  For every 10 unsung guys hyped up in TC, 8 probably end up as nothing much. But every good NFL player was hyped in camp...so if you get no hype it’s a problem.  The fact guys like Hill, Walker, AJ, Hawkins, Lindstrom & Henn are getting recognition is a step in the right direction

Dam this is very true. No good player was a surprise. They all got hyped in camp first. Even the #1 picks. 

[FalconsIn2012 35,705]

 

[gazoo 21,380]

2 hours ago, Tim Mazetti said:

And even without a great running game, if the OL blocks pass rushers, the Falcons will be devastating.

Offensive line is key as always.

Yep, Ryan has proved with decent protection he is lethal, MVP level lethal. #7th highest scoring offense in NFL history level lethal. 

If our play action passing game is as effective as 2016, its going to be a fun season!

[Ergo Proxy 26,135]

1 hour ago, FalconsIn2012 said:

He was...you’re not wrong.  For every 10 unsung guys hyped up in TC, 8 probably end up as nothing much. But every good NFL player was hyped in camp...so if you get no hype it’s a problem.  The fact guys like Hill, Walker, AJ, Hawkins, Lindstrom & Henn are getting recognition is a step in the right direction

But like...who was talking about Saubert and what was said? I only remember the boards chatting him up.

[FalconsIn2012 35,705]

 

[droopy1592 7,350]

6 hours ago, Atl Falcon said:

Here’s come the Nut......Y’all better listen to him. He’s been telling us for years that Hill is for real

Hill just needs to get going. The best Hill is ahead of us. I’ve been on the Hill train since he was drafted and released. 

[FalconsIn2012 35,705]

Ppl starting to get nicked up...

 

 

[gazoo 21,380]

3 hours ago, Ergo Proxy said:

But like...who was talking about Saubert and what was said? I only remember the boards chatting him up.

Certainly I was. But so was DLed and DQ. Saubert was making plays in camp, he just couldn’t ever put it together on the field in a game. I believe DQ hinted at the issue one time, had to do with a lack of smarts. TE position requires a player to know an awful lot in both run and passing game.. I just don’t think Saubert could process it all cognitively while letting his athletic ability loose.

[blkbigdog35 11,319]

12 hours ago, Tim Mazetti said:

Well now. Not much hesitation making THAT statement. I love it.

 

12 hours ago, DirtyBird2 said:

He and Whitt were the moves of the offseason. Its unreal the positive stories coming out of TC about the defense. Love to hear it. 

Couldn’t agree more.  I have been pleasantly surprised!

[Ovie_Lover 29,838]

8 hours ago, NaGaBoy said:

Oh, they had better learn.  We cannot have people listening to positive news out of Flowery Branch and then becoming hopeful for the season.  We cannot have that.  Everyone, stop that.  Stop that right now. 

ROFLMAO.

Hurt someone's feelings I guess

8 hours ago, NaGaBoy said:

Jesse Tuggle.  Jamal Anderson.

Lol ok

[Ovie_Lover 29,838]

8 hours ago, Ergo Proxy said:

But like...who was talking about Saubert and what was said? I only remember the boards chatting him up.

The same people tweeting about Hill did about Saubert, even coaches sang his praises.

[Ovie_Lover 29,838]

I'd be fine with Hill turning it on and figuring it out. I'd love it. Just not buying offseason hype after multiple offseasons of hype. He has to prove it on the field.