Under age 25 talent

[gtech1]

You might not want to read this.  It requires a lot of scrolling to get to the Falcons: https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/29602474/ranking-all-32-nfl-teams-their-25-talent-2020#ATL

[vel]

Not wrong. The youth is terrible. That's coaching. But also, we've drafted some old rookies. Ridley and McGary were older than normal rookies. This roster is positioned for the next 3-5 years. That's about it. 

[octoslash]

That's how to start a thread:

You might not want to read this.

  I like it.

[marvinthemartian]

1 hour ago, octoslash said:

That's how to start a thread:

You might not want to read this.

  I like it.

Roflmao I thought the same thing when I saw that as well

[PokerSteve]

"You might not want to read this....." So I didn't read it. Figured OP was offering sound advice.

[ki46dinah]

Age is not a useless predictor of total NFL success as a longevity basis...years of NFL experience is more useful for the majority of players.

There are of course outliers, like 29 year old rookies...the Chris Weinke situation. 

But many rookies that complete their senior year come in as 23 or 24 year olds.
We have a solid number of <4 season players on the roster.

Koo

Hill

Schweitzer

Takk

Gage

Gono

Oliver

Ito

Cominsky

Miller

Ollison

Lindstrom

McGrary

Sheff

 

[Smiler11]

Anyone with an espn insider account want to post the bit about the Falcons (OP perhaps?) otherwise to 99% of posters this link is useless.

[autigerfan]

I think that could really change this year if Lindstrom and some of the secondary players that got experience last year really elevate their games.  Last year our youth really benefited from getting more opportunities than they might normally. 

[Slimm]

1 hour ago, autigerfan said:

I think that could really change this year if Lindstrom and some of the secondary players that got experience last year really elevate their games.  Last year our youth really benefited from getting more opportunities than they might normally. 

Nothing better than getting actual in-game experience.  They now know what they got to work on and def have a better idea of what it takes to have success based off actual experience.  

[PokerSteve]

3 hours ago, autigerfan said:

I think that could really change this year if Lindstrom and some of the secondary players that got experience last year really elevate their games.  Last year our youth really benefited from getting more opportunities than they might normally. 

 

2 hours ago, Slimm said:

Nothing better than getting actual in-game experience.  They now know what they got to work on and def have a better idea of what it takes to have success based off actual experience.  

Agree. A much-improved Lindstrom, in tandem with a transformed McGary could light the fuse under this offense with all the studs we have. And everybody in the secondary is going to be way better going into their second year under Raheem. He's going to have these young guys ready to rock.

Indeed there is nothing better and no substitute for getting reps against the other team's A-team players. Now they know what it takes and they're starting this year with clean slates. See what I did there? lol. Anyway, with that in-game experience under their belts, there's ample reason to be optimistic about our potential on both sides of the football.

[OrthoPTSD]

6 hours ago, autigerfan said:

I think that could really change this year if 

Comminsky

[autigerfan]

On 8/11/2020 at 6:54 PM, OrthoPTSD said:

Comminsky

I don't really get all of the Cominsky hype.  I think he can develop into a decent rotational player and might fill the Crawford role.  I can't really see him being a difference maker though based upon last year and what he produced in college.

[Pacific_Falcon]

1 hour ago, autigerfan said:

I don't really get all of the Cominsky hype.  I think he can develop into a decent rotational player and might fill the Crawford role.  I can't really see him being a difference maker though based upon last year and what he produced in college.

Hard to say, but I think his lack of reps last year was largely due to a nagging foot injury, if I remember right. We'll have to see, I like his upside but he certainly hasn't proven anything yet.

[OrthoPTSD]

23 hours ago, autigerfan said:

might fill the Crawford role. 

Meh, dont really see tons of hype for him. But if taken into account of filling Crawford role, he(Crawford) produced nothing last year, even for Crawford standards.

 I certainly see more based on his limited snaps than a Crawford type as his upside is off the charts. 

Thought it was telling that he was lighting returners up first game pre season, and then he had no coverage duties. 

 

 

  

 

[MilleniumFalcon]

On 8/11/2020 at 12:37 PM, Smiler11 said:

Anyone with an espn insider account want to post the bit about the Falcons (OP perhaps?) otherwise to 99% of posters this link is useless.

Falcons rank last at #32.

 

32. Atlanta Falcons

 

Wide receiver Russell Gage has had some flashes, but wouldn't be considered a blue-chip asset at this point. Jason Getz/USA TODAY Sports

2019 ranking: 26
Blue-chip players: None
Notable graduated players: Calvin Ridley, WR; Deion Jones, LB; Keanu Neal, FS; Austin Hooper, TE; Kaleb McGary, RT

The Falcons had just two picks on Days 1 and 2 of the 2019 draft, so they had to make first-rounders Chris Lindstrom and Kaleb McGary count. Unfortunately, both players dealt with health issues -- the former a foot injury that limited him to five games and the latter a heart condition that robbed him of preseason practice time -- and blew blocks on more than 4.0% of their attempts as rookies. And with McGary already 25 years old in his sophomore season, it's little wonder the Falcons have fallen to last in this year's rankings.

Really, most of the Falcons' young assets have similar career track records of more playing time than effectiveness. Defensive end Takk McKinley was supposed to restock a pass rush that stagnated with the regression of veteran Vic Beasley. But McKinley never even produced an outlier impact season. He has finished with 26.5 hurries and seven sacks or fewer in each of his three seasons, and the Falcons have already declined his fifth-year option for 2021. Cornerbacks Isaiah Oliver and Kendall Sheffield provided dreadful 46% and 38% coverage success rates in 2019, putting undue stress on first-rounder A.J. Terrell to become the team's top corner in his rookie season. Slot receiver Russell Gage had a mini breakout after the team traded Mohamed Sanu to the Patriots last season, but Gage's 446 yards belied a poor efficiency of a -14.1% DVOA.

If the Falcons uncover a young blue-chip asset by next season, chances are strong that he will come from their 2020 draft class. Beyond Terrell, that group is headlined by defensive lineman Marlon Davidson. Davidson was top-10 pick Derrick Brown's running mate at Auburn and even bested Brown with 11.5 tackles for loss and 6.5 sacks in his senior season, albeit with less blocking attention. Center Matt Hennessy and linebacker Mykal Walker also could contribute in 2020, although the former will likely see more playing time if veteran Alex Mack leaves in free agency in 2021 and the latter needs time to harness his athletic ability into on-field production.

Methodology

As is our standard, we have created these rankings based on a combination of factors:

• Number of starts made by players under 25 years old

• Number of snaps played by players under 25 years old

• Quality of play of players under 25 years old, age-adjusted to capture the fact that a 21-year-old player of X ability will likely improve more than a 23-year-old player of X ability and with extra consideration given to Pro Bowl and All-Pro selections

• Relative importance of positions, in particular with quarterbacks being more important and running backs, kickers and punters being less important than other positions

• Draft value added in the 2020 draft with extra emphasis placed on the premium picks in the first two rounds

• Expected key starters and reserves under 25 years old for teams in 2020

• Team track records of talent evaluation and development

• Significant injuries or suspensions that will affect the 2020 availability of players under 25 years old