Falcanuck Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 18 hours ago, Ezekiel 25:17 said: Uh.... No it’s not. Uh.. yes it is. Both are locks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezekiel 25:17 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Falcanuck said: Uh.. yes it is. Both are locks. So... If Mahomes either blows out his knees tomorrow or does a Ricky Williams and walks away from the game, he is in? ADAMSVILLE GYM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Ezekiel 25:17 said: So... If Mahomes either blows out his knees tomorrow or does a Ricky Williams and walks away from the game, he is in? Nope. Ezekiel 25:17 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezekiel 25:17 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, 1989Fan said: Nope. I rest my case. dude hasn’t even thrown for 10,000 YET and he is Already a lock??? PLEASE!!! ADAMSVILLE GYM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAMSVILLE GYM Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, Ezekiel 25:17 said: I rest my case. dude hasn’t even thrown for 10,000 YET and he is Already a lock??? PLEASE!!! Thank you. I swear, cats around here would make P.T. Barnum a billionaire in a week. Ezekiel 25:17 and PokerSteve 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77birdgang Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 22 hours ago, DonOfThemBirds said: Mahomes already has an NFL Season MVP, SB MVP, and a SB ring. Hel that should be enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezekiel 25:17 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 22 hours ago, Statick said: I'm sorry, but I will always point out the fact that if they elected Saints LB Rickey Jackson to the HOF, who played on a historically bad Saints teams of the 80s and 90s, then why not anyone else? Because the voters are full of ****. And Jessie Tuggle and Tommy Nobis are not add to that $hitfulness! Yes, I just made up a word but it can already be properly used in a sentence. PokerSteve, Statick and HouseofEuphoria 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted July 23, 2020 Author Share Posted July 23, 2020 22 hours ago, Boise Falcon Fan said: You could say the same for Dale Murphy in the '80's, and you know how that has turned out. (I believe JJ should be a lock, but you never know with these HOF things.) Dale Murphy is more like Matthews level good, not Julio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUTiger7222 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 7 hours ago, ADAMSVILLE GYM said: My abilty to fomulate a reasonable difference of opinion. Also, because i don't get in orgy lines. 2 great seasons don't equate to a gold jacket. Well I can see my attempt to have a reasonable discussion about why you think Patrick Mahomes will just plummet into an everyday run of the mill QB isn't worth the effort given your 13 year old response so I bid you a good day sir. Pacific_Falcon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boise Falcon Fan Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 2 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said: Dale Murphy is more like Matthews level good, not Julio Dale Murphy had the 2nd most home runs of the entire 1980's. He didn't play in the juiced ball, or steroid era, so his numbers don't look as crazy as today's players. He was a 2 time MVP. **** good player, and should be in the HOF. Geneaut, AUTiger7222, HouseofEuphoria and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boise Falcon Fan Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 5 hours ago, Ezekiel 25:17 said: So... If Mahomes either blows out his knees tomorrow or does a Ricky Williams and walks away from the game, he is in? No Ezekiel 25:17 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAMSVILLE GYM Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 1 hour ago, AUTiger7222 said: Well I can see my attempt to have a reasonable discussion about why you think Patrick Mahomes will just plummet into an everyday run of the mill QB isn't worth the effort given your 13 year old response so I bid you a good day sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific_Falcon Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 On 7/22/2020 at 9:13 AM, PokerSteve said: Agree. Way too much subjectivity rather than going by merit. Just a glorified popularity contest. It's not as bad as the Pro Bowl, but yeah I agree. PokerSteve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 On 7/23/2020 at 12:36 PM, Boise Falcon Fan said: Dale Murphy had the 2nd most home runs of the entire 1980's. He didn't play in the juiced ball, or steroid era, so his numbers don't look as crazy as today's players. He was a 2 time MVP. **** good player, and should be in the HOF. I hear ya, he was indeed one of best players for 7-8 years... .but after his monster ‘87 season, Murphy fell off a cliff afterwards. To me, that’s (.265 career BA) not quite HOF worthy. And I loved Murph. PokerSteve and Boise Falcon Fan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geneaut Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said: Dale Murphy is more like Matthews level good, not Julio Negative. For about 2-3 years Dale was THE best player in MLB, and if you look at 80-87 is top 1 or 2 (42.8 bWAR ). His problem is he fell off the cliff at the end of that stretch. So up to age 31 he was a sure HOF pick. Even with his decline starting in 88 if you look at his stats for the entirety of the 80s he's the leader in many of the categories. Has Matthews ever played at that level? I'm not arguing he's HOF worthy ... I'm just saying for a multiyear stretch he was without a doubt one of the top players in his sport. Edited July 23, 2020 by Geneaut Tribal Chief, PokerSteve, Boise Falcon Fan and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Smart One Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 13 hours ago, AUTiger7222 said: Dale Murphy was one of the top 5 best players in the entire NL in the 1980s. You're grossly underselling what he did on the field. You don't win back-to-back league MVP's by being "only very good." Druw had a career fWAR of 67. Murph had a career fWAR of 44.3. The average HOF has a career fWAR between 50 and 70. I’m not underselling anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUTiger7222 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 24 minutes ago, The Smart One said: Druw had a career fWAR of 67. Murph had a career fWAR of 44.3. The average HOF has a career fWAR between 50 and 70. I’m not underselling anything. Yes you are since fWAR is the only thing you're basing this on. Oh, and show me where I said Andruw Jones shouldn't be in the HOF. PokerSteve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Minotaur Zebra Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 On 7/22/2020 at 10:45 AM, ADAMSVILLE GYM said: Patrick Mahomes is a flash in the pan and will not be a HOFer. You *and* Falcanuck both took wayyy too polarized a take there Mahomes could for sure be a HOFer... Julio will *definitely* be a HOFer unless they find a mass grave in his backyard or some ****, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HouseofEuphoria Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 On 7/22/2020 at 10:53 AM, Statick said: I'm sorry, but I will always point out the fact that if they elected Saints LB Rickey Jackson to the HOF, who played on a historically bad Saints teams of the 80s and 90s, then why not anyone else? Because the voters are full of ****. Ricky Jackson? I don't recall the player and i watched every game during those decades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCFalconfan Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 On 7/22/2020 at 10:45 AM, ADAMSVILLE GYM said: Patrick Mahomes is a flash in the pan and will not be a HOFer. No way. Great arm, great elusiveness, great scrambling ability, outstanding accuracy while on the run, etc.... If healthy, Mahomes will rewrite a lot of records IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUTiger7222 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 3 hours ago, HouseofEuphoria said: Ricky Jackson? I don't recall the player and i watched every game during those decades. One of the 49ers hired guns they used in 1994 to finally win the Super Bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcanuck Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 23 hours ago, Ezekiel 25:17 said: So... If Mahomes either blows out his knees tomorrow or does a Ricky Williams and walks away from the game, he is in? I don’t think Julio gets in if he doesn’t play another snap either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Falcanuck said: I don’t think Julio gets in if he doesn’t play another snap either Do you think Calvin Johnson is a HOFer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezekiel 25:17 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 41 minutes ago, Falcanuck said: I don’t think Julio gets in if he doesn’t play another snap either After playing +10 years at the level that he has, being the most feared man at his position and he still isn’t in??? Wow, using your logic that definitely means Mahomes not a lock after ONLY playing three seasons and not having 10,000 yards yet. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezekiel 25:17 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 44 minutes ago, 1989Fan said: Do you think Calvin Johnson is a HOFer? Nah.. He played too long and didn’t get a ring! Didn’t you know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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