FalconsIn2012 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 For a QB who has only twice in 12 years finished outside the top 10 in QBR, it’s shocking how often ESPN, analysts and so called “professionals” will snub Matt Ryan. Heck, even Falcons fans are just as likely to throw shade as they are to compliment the former MVP. As for me, I like Ryan with a chip on his shoulders. Hopefully the ignorant disrespect continues. Matt Ryan Ranks Outside The Top 10 In ESPN's 2020 Quarterback Rankings Panel 1. Patrick Mahomes, Kansas City Chiefs Age: 24 | Highest ranking: 1 | Lowest ranking: 4 Nearly 30 voters were polled, and all but one picked Mahomes first overall. "Everything else is a grab bag," one AFC exec said. "He's the face of the league." That was evident by the Chiefs' signing Mahomes to a record 10-year, $450 million extension Monday, with a total package that can push the 12-year pact (he had two years left on his rookie deal) up to $503 million. It's easy to detail Mahomes' dominance statistically and anecdotally: second player to win a Super Bowl and MVP in his first three seasons QB ratings of 113.8 and 105.3 as a two-year starter 304 yards and 2.53 passing touchdowns per game arm talent to complete passes from all bodily contortions leads NFL with 22 touchdown passes of 20-plus yards downfield and 17 touchdown passes on the run since 2018 But the biggest impact is creating big plays when he decides it's time to win -- like uncorking a 44-yarder to Tyreek Hill from deep in the pocket on third-and-long in the Super Bowl. "Talk to 31 defensive coordinators, they'd all say they are least excited about playing this guy," one NFL veteran assistant coach said. "Only getting better with dealing with defenses, too." The Chiefs rave about his relatability and leadership, as well. One knock is unnecessary risk-taking. "Our coach came in our meeting room [before a Chiefs game] and said, 'Listen guys, his model is touchdown or touchback,'" one veteran NFL cornerback said. "He's gonna launch it. You saw it in the Super Bowl. They keep airing it out. So there are chances to get him." 2. Russell Wilson, Seattle Seahawks 3. Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay Packers 4. Deshaun Watson, Houston Texans 5. Drew Brees, New Orleans Saints 6. Lamar Jackson, Baltimore Ravens 7. Tom Brady, Tampa Bay Buccaneers 8. Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagles 9. Dak Prescott, Dallas Cowboys 10. Matthew Stafford, Detroit Lions 11. Matt Ryan, Atlanta Falcons 12. Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh Steelers 13. Kyler Murray, Arizona Cardinals This list has generated quite a bit of buzz on Twitter, as one could imagine. The 2016 MVP behind guys like Stafford, Prescott, and Wentz is not exactly...consensus opinion. Not to mention three of the top seven names on the list are well past their prime, but alas. This seems slightly insane, as Ryan has only ranked outside the top-10 in QBR twice in his entire career, and his average finish in QBR over the last five seasons is 7.6. Coming off of a less than spectacular statistical season, one in which the Falcons' offensive line struggled quite a bit in both the passing and the running game, this feels like an overreaction. If the rest of the list catered to younger talent, Ryan being outside the top-10 could make more sense. But Rodgers, Brees and Brady being ranked so favorably for the upcoming season means youth wasn't part of the criteria to receive a high ranking. The story does note that Ryan had more top-10 votes than Stafford, but that Stafford's average rank was slightly higher. Where do you think Matt Ryan should rank on the list? Tim Mazetti 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlantafan21 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Of course, I completely disagree with the list. One of the craziest things this offseason is how overrated some people are making Stafford out to be. Dude literally played great ball for 8 games, not even a full season, and all of sudden he’s this great QB now. I think he’s good, and tbh 10 isn’t a bad a spot, but I’ve seen him getting ranked a decent amount higher than that when he honestly shouldn’t be at all. Also, when has Stafford EVER truly been better than Matt? Like maybe only the 8 games of last year I suppose? Rings, FalconsIn2012 and red falcon 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayOzOne Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 I saw a video with this on it yesterday. It listed the top 10 and when Ryan wasn't in it, I changed the station. Emmitt, The Great American, Drvillain and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted July 10, 2020 Author Share Posted July 10, 2020 14 minutes ago, Atlantafan21 said: Of course, I completely disagree with the list. One of the craziest things this offseason is how overrated some people are making Stafford out to be. Dude literally played great ball for 8 games, not even a full season, and all of sudden he’s this great QB now. I think he’s good, and tbh 10 isn’t a bad a spot, but I’ve seen him getting ranked a decent amount higher than that when he honestly shouldn’t be at all. Also, when has Stafford EVER truly been better than Matt? Like maybe only the 8 games of last year I suppose? I actually think Stafford belongs in the top 10. He and OC Darell Bevel were dynamite last year. Before Stafford broke his back (8 games), the Lions were averaging 26 ppg and Stafford was on a Ryan circa 2016 pace. Stafford was on pace for • 5,000 yards on less than 600 attempts (this never happens) • 38 TD’s • 10 INT’s • 106 QBR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted July 10, 2020 Author Share Posted July 10, 2020 If anyone needs a good laugh, read Bomani Jones take on Ryan being a future HOF QB: ESPN's Bomani Jones ignites intense debate on Matt Ryan A Falcons fan shut Bomani up by offering up this fact: “only two QB’s in the history of football have at least 50,000 passing yards and 300 TD’s in 12 years. ¥. Peyton Manning ¥. Couldn’t Be Matt Ryan https://www.atlantafalcons.com/news/espn-s-bomani-jones-ignites-intense-debate-on-matt-ryan The Great American, Tim Mazetti and VTCrunkler 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spts1 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Jeremy Fowler: "Maybe the tightest race of the position was Stafford vs. Matt Ryan at 10," ESPN's Jeremy Fowler writes. "Ryan had slightly more top-10 votes, but Stafford's average overall was higher. Expanding the voting to Ryan vs. Stafford exclusively gave Stafford the edge as well. He scares opposing teams more, can score from anywhere on the field, and where he plays counts." https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/nfl/lions/2020/07/08/detroit-lions-matthew-stafford-among-espn-top-quarterbacks/5399350002/ FalconsIn2012 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spts1 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 45 minutes ago, FalconsIn2012 said: If anyone needs a good laugh, read Bomani Jones take on Ryan being a future HOF QB: ESPN's Bomani Jones ignites intense debate on Matt Ryan A Falcons fan shut Bomani up by offering up this fact: “only two QB’s in the history of football have at least 50,000 passing yards and 300 TD’s in 12 years. ¥. Peyton Manning ¥. Couldn’t Be Matt Ryan https://www.atlantafalcons.com/news/espn-s-bomani-jones-ignites-intense-debate-on-matt-ryan Bomani went in... bomani falcons fans SWEARING to me matt ryan is a hall of famer: get off that narcotic. you've watched so much mediocrity that pretty good looks great to you. serious question: where do you falcons fans get off having all this pride in matt ryan? do you really not want more? do you not want better? is this good enough for you? are you that battered and scarred? do you love that bad dope that much? you don't feel silly arguing with me? Atlantafan21, Tim Mazetti and FalconsIn2012 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted July 10, 2020 Author Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Spts1 said: Bomani went in... bomani falcons fans SWEARING to me matt ryan is a hall of famer: get off that narcotic. you've watched so much mediocrity that pretty good looks great to you. serious question: where do you falcons fans get off having all this pride in matt ryan? do you really not want more? do you not want better? is this good enough for you? are you that battered and scarred? do you love that bad dope that much? you don't feel silly arguing with me? All I could do was laugh when I read what he said... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlantafan21 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 3 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said: I actually think Stafford belongs in the top 10. He and OC Darell Bevel were dynamite last year. Before Stafford broke his back (8 games), the Lions were averaging 26 ppg and Stafford was on a Ryan circa 2016 pace. Stafford was on pace for • 5,000 yards on less than 600 attempts (this never happens) • 38 TD’s • 10 INT’s • 106 QBR I’m fine with him being too 10. At max though, I’d put him at 8. I know he was on pace for some great numbers, but there’s no telling if he actually would’ve reached those numbers. That’s really my biggest problem with it. FalconsIn2012 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlantafan21 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Spts1 said: Bomani went in... bomani falcons fans SWEARING to me matt ryan is a hall of famer: get off that narcotic. you've watched so much mediocrity that pretty good looks great to you. serious question: where do you falcons fans get off having all this pride in matt ryan? do you really not want more? do you not want better? is this good enough for you? are you that battered and scarred? do you love that bad dope that much? you don't feel silly arguing with me? 3 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said: If anyone needs a good laugh, read Bomani Jones take on Ryan being a future HOF QB: ESPN's Bomani Jones ignites intense debate on Matt Ryan A Falcons fan shut Bomani up by offering up this fact: “only two QB’s in the history of football have at least 50,000 passing yards and 300 TD’s in 12 years. ¥. Peyton Manning ¥. Couldn’t Be Matt Ryan https://www.atlantafalcons.com/news/espn-s-bomani-jones-ignites-intense-debate-on-matt-ryan Ima be honest, I didn’t even know who this dude was until he started talking crap about Matt the other day. Vandy, FalconsIn2012 and Emmitt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDawgMania Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 I dont care about what Bomani and some of the Ryan Haters Club on here have to say about my QB. Best QB we have ever had and his stats prove it. Atl Falcon, Drew4719, FalconsIn2012 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atl Falcon Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 48 minutes ago, CAPT KHAOS said: I dont care about what Bomani and some of the Ryan Haters Club on here have to say about my QB. Best QB we have ever had and his stats prove it. Me too....I could care less what they think. Vandy and Captain Falcon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sipifalcon Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 If only Matt ever had a great better yet a consistent solid defense smh and a good oline on a consistent basis. Man man man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngbloodz Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 8 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said: If anyone needs a good laugh, read Bomani Jones take on Ryan being a future HOF QB: ESPN's Bomani Jones ignites intense debate on Matt Ryan A Falcons fan shut Bomani up by offering up this fact: “only two QB’s in the history of football have at least 50,000 passing yards and 300 TD’s in 12 years. ¥. Peyton Manning ¥. Couldn’t Be Matt Ryan https://www.atlantafalcons.com/news/espn-s-bomani-jones-ignites-intense-debate-on-matt-ryan I love Bomani. Not many can debate with him. But he is completely wrong on this. Ryan will eventually get in. Won’t be first ballot but he will get in eventually. Now if he adds a Super Bowl title he just might FalconsIn2012 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trubirdfan4life Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Matt Ryan has always been outranked by the new guys. They all fade, and Matt continues to be consistent. It will never change until he gets a ring. Then, they will have a new set of criteria that he doesn't make the mark. Just how it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla1985 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Seriously if I ever met this Bomani character I would have to slap him across his face. Pacific_Falcon, Vandy, Drunken Minotaur Zebra and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Godzilla1985 said: Seriously if I ever met this Bomani character I would have to slap him across his face. LOL Zilla....that one made me laugh. But seriously....who cares? I guarandamteeya Matt could care less what any of the talking heads think. Godzilla1985 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 I wonder if Carson Wentz gets credit for the Eagles Super Bowl win. Dude has never won a playoff game. Heck he never finished one. Also Stafford has one pro bowl and is 0-3 in the playoffs. Ryan's biggest knock for the first half of his career was that he couldn't win in the playoffs. Has that ever been said about Stafford? Rhodaric, Vandy and VTCrunkler 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAD597 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 No way Wentz, Watson, Stafford should be ranked higher than Ryan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted July 10, 2020 Author Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Godzilla1985 said: Seriously if I ever met this Bomani character I would have to slap him across his face. Here he is for you...lol Spts1 and Godzilla1985 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Did Tim Green poop in his cheerios or something when he was a kid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rings Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Dak? Wentz? Stafford? Rodgers at three is laughable, Ryan has outplayed him the last five years, really pathetic how much people get hung up on a ring and arm strength thinking it will lead to future success. This is why I hate main stream media, they don’t dig deep at all and if it didn’t make their stations highlight reel they don’t know a lot about it, and most the time they talk just to talk. That said I think Mina Kimes does a really good job on ESPN staying grounded, balanced and knowing her stuff. Ergo Proxy, NashvilleFalcon01, Rhodaric and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Jersey Falcon Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 (edited) Wentz can't stay on the field. Stafford was hurt for half the year. Your best ability is your availability. Sure Wentz has the intangibles to be a great QB, but he's consistently shown hes injury prone and shouldnt even sniff top 10 bc of it. Ryan is consistently putting up numbers with a revolving door OC every 2-3 years. Mine wouldve been: 1 Mahomes 2 Wilson 3 Brady/ Brees 4 Lamar (defenses will start to defend better) 5/6 Dak (another weapon in Lamb)/ Ryan Murray Rodgers (GB gave him 0 help with draft) Watson Stafford Wentz Big Ben Edited July 10, 2020 by New Jersey Falcon Vandy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Rings said: Dak? Wentz? Stafford? Rodgers at three is laughable, Ryan has outplayed him the last five years, really pathetic how much people get hung up on a ring and arm strength thinking it will lead to future success. This is why I hate main stream media, they don’t dig deep at all and if it didn’t make their stations highlight reel they don’t know a lot about it, and most the time they talk just to talk. That said I think Mina Kimes does a really good job on ESPN staying grounded, balanced and knowing her stuff. I don’t get the media’s infatuation about Prescott either Rings, other than he’s the QB in Dallas. They supposedly have a talented team, yet what have they won? In a QB driven league, to me that's very telling. A Pimp Named Slickback™, Pacific_Falcon, FalconsIn2012 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew4719 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 I would’ve expected him to be no lower than 6th or 7th on that list, even accounting for the fact that nobody likes him 😂 Pacific_Falcon and Spts1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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