FalconsIn2012 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 I was reading up on the talented offensive assistants we didn’t bother retaining in 2017. We let 4 future OC/HC’s walk without offering so much as a peep of objection. We kept just two coaches from that historic offense which is simply retarted considering the objective was to retain Shanny’s offense....and the ones we kept are not very good. Looking at you, Morgan....regardless, I came across this excerpt and it really makes me wonder what our coaches are up to lately. I haven’t heard much of anything. “A new rule change from the NFL could weaken the 49ers’ coaching staff in 2021. Effective immediately, NFL teams no longer can block their assistant coaches from interviewing for other teams’ coordinator jobs. Big news for 49ers head coach Kyle Shanahan, because he blocked two of his assistants from becoming coordinators just last year. Shanahan blocked the interviews for two reasons: 1. He could 2. He depends on McDaniel and LaFleur. They do so much work for him. On a recent video conference with Bay Area reporters, fullback Kyle Juszczyk explained just how important McDaniel and LaFleur are to the offense: “They have been extremely involved. Both of them could run their offense right now -- probably could have years ago. Right now, LaFleur and McDaniel have been pre-recording videos for us to watch on all our pass concepts, our run game. They’ve done a lot of them -- I’m talking 30 15-minute videos, where they’re in their living rooms in front of a projector going over how we install everything. Really just installing the offense for Kyle. And then we go into these offensive skill meetings, and Kyle elaborates on what they already have installed. I truly believe both of them are so capable and ready to run their own offenses. It’s going to be a bummer for us when we lose one of them. They’re going to be really hard to replace, because they’re so valuable and important to this offense and contribute so much to what we do as a team.” Here’s what you need to know about those two: 1. McDaniel is the star. Remember all those new run plays and wrinkles the 49ers used for the first time in 2019? Those probably came from McDaniel. Shanahan and his father are zone-blocking purists. McDaniel is a run-game genius who has mastered every blocking scheme. Most teams would love to have him. Just not the Falcons apparently mountain_jim3, Hashbrown3, Smiler11 and 3 others 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 As it relates to the Falcons, who knows. They don’t have to discuss anything publicly. Pretty sure they’ve done the same as they’ve done in previous years minus a few things, just virtually. Geneaut 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Yall are really bugging on the coaching front. I think we got enough GMs and coaches. Probably need 2-3 more players. Then gotta execute. That's been the problem that's led to back to back 7-9s. If the brotherhood don't execute and we do a third 7-9, heads could roll. Won't be easy. Schedule looks tough. Division could be a problem. Please rise. Need rest. Jesus, Skeetbird, HouseofEuphoria and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Coaches pull it all together and come up with the plan for players to execute. Execution is no where near the top of the list if your coaching and plan is inconsistent and predictable. What is the point in execution if the other team already has your number. This has what has been the Bain of this teams existence the last few years. I’m still not convinced from the top of the coaching tree through both sides of the ball that we are cohesive enough to pull it off. Time will tell. PokerSteve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler11 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 We don't know the conversations that went on and indeed if the LaFleur brothers and Mike McDaniel had any interest in sticking around, but for me letting those 3 guys go was the biggest mistake DQ has made in his tenure here. It's even more mind-boggling given the coaching tree DQ has come through that has more often than not promoted from within. DQ himself has twice promoted from within for defensive coordinators. PokerSteve and kiwifalcon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atl Falcon Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 I never really understood why we didn’t hire one of those guys when left. But I guarantee our guys are working just as hard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boise Falcon Fan Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Yeah, I'm sure the 49ers are the only team doing this right now. They're geniuses, and DK and Co are just idiots. DK has been coaching a LONG TIME, and he is a much better coach than given credit for. Our boys are going to do fine, and i predict they'll win the South. Brady & Brees are old, and MR is the best QB in the division. The Great American, capitan and JDaveG 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octoslash Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 I was a huge supporter of this staff until last year. Now I have very little faith in them. Maybe we'll see the required amount of urgency out of the gate so we don't have to witness another 1-7; after all, these guys are coaching for their jobs now. But that can be a disaster in itself. From my experience in the working world, a person having to go to work job-scared every day is usually just an unemployment check waiting to happen. PokerSteve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Who cares? Didn't he blow yet another super bowl? Maybe one of his amazing coaches will tell shanny to run the effing ball. capitan, HouseofEuphoria, JDaveG and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da_Truth Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 9 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said: I was reading up on the talented offensive assistants we didn’t bother retaining in 2017. We let 4 future OC/HC’s walk without offering so much as a peep of objection. We kept just two coaches from that historic offense which is simply retarted considering the objective was to retain Shanny’s offense....and the ones we kept are not very good. Looking at you, Morgan....regardless, I came across this excerpt and it really makes me wonder what our coaches are up to lately. I haven’t heard much of anything. “A new rule change from the NFL could weaken the 49ers’ coaching staff in 2021. Effective immediately, NFL teams no longer can block their assistant coaches from interviewing for other teams’ coordinator jobs. Big news for 49ers head coach Kyle Shanahan, because he blocked two of his assistants from becoming coordinators just last year. Shanahan blocked the interviews for two reasons: 1. He could 2. He depends on McDaniel and LaFleur. They do so much work for him. On a recent video conference with Bay Area reporters, fullback Kyle Juszczyk explained just how important McDaniel and LaFleur are to the offense: “They have been extremely involved. Both of them could run their offense right now -- probably could have years ago. Right now, LaFleur and McDaniel have been pre-recording videos for us to watch on all our pass concepts, our run game. They’ve done a lot of them -- I’m talking 30 15-minute videos, where they’re in their living rooms in front of a projector going over how we install everything. Really just installing the offense for Kyle. And then we go into these offensive skill meetings, and Kyle elaborates on what they already have installed. I truly believe both of them are so capable and ready to run their own offenses. It’s going to be a bummer for us when we lose one of them. They’re going to be really hard to replace, because they’re so valuable and important to this offense and contribute so much to what we do as a team.” Here’s what you need to know about those two: 1. McDaniel is the star. Remember all those new run plays and wrinkles the 49ers used for the first time in 2019? Those probably came from McDaniel. Shanahan and his father are zone-blocking purists. McDaniel is a run-game genius who has mastered every blocking scheme. Most teams would love to have him. Just not the Falcons apparently Man stop crying over spilled Milk...almost four years later. Just be happy you have Koetter at the helm. His offense is even more creative than Shanny's ever could be. 🤩 capitan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted July 2, 2020 Author Share Posted July 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Smiler11 said: We don't know the conversations that went on and indeed if the LaFleur brothers and Mike McDaniel had any interest in sticking around, but for me letting those 3 guys go was the biggest mistake DQ has made in his tenure here. It's even more mind-boggling given the coaching tree DQ has come through that has more often than not promoted from within. DQ himself has twice promoted from within for defensive coordinators. LaFleur asked to stay as QB coach and we said no thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted July 2, 2020 Author Share Posted July 2, 2020 56 minutes ago, Jesus said: Who cares? Didn't he blow yet another super bowl? Maybe one of his amazing coaches will tell shanny to run the effing ball. The point was the 49ers offensive coaching staf is installing their offense. I’m curious what our staff is up to. Have not heard much of anything Preparation and execution go hand in hand. 49ers are preparing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red falcon Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 19 minutes ago, FalconsIn2012 said: The point was the 49ers offensive coaching staf is installing their offense. I’m curious what our staff is up to. Have not heard much of anything Preparation and execution go hand in hand. 49ers are preparing. I dont think they are just sitting around with what's at stake. This is a big year for them. Vandy, capitan and HouseofEuphoria 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezekiel 25:17 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Smiler11 said: We don't know the conversations that went on and indeed if the LaFleur brothers and Mike McDaniel had any interest in sticking around, but for me letting those 3 guys go was the biggest mistake DQ has made in his tenure here. It's even more mind-boggling given the coaching tree DQ has come through that has more often than not promoted from within. DQ himself has twice promoted from within for defensive coordinators. When Shannanihans left, I said that we should just hire within(I personally wanted LaFluer) to keep the same continuity. Sadly, IF we would have, with the way the Defense played that year, we would have been right back the the SB I say! FalconsIn2012 and PokerSteve 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted July 2, 2020 Author Share Posted July 2, 2020 9 minutes ago, red falcon said: I dont think they are just sitting around with what's at stake. This is a big year for them. Neither do I. Would love to get some info about what they are doing. PokerSteve and red falcon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpicBird Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 We don't really know what the Falcons staff is or isn't doing with playbook installations (or for much else for that matter) so I wouldn't be clutching my pearls at this point. I get the overall skepticism about the performance of the staff because you are what your record says you are, and in the case of this staff that ain't great. Couple that with the trauma to the fan base of last year's slow start and I am more concerned in general about the competency of the staff than I am about who's installing what and when. PokerSteve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific_Falcon Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 52 minutes ago, FalconsIn2012 said: The point was the 49ers offensive coaching staf is installing their offense. I’m curious what our staff is up to. Have not heard much of anything Preparation and execution go hand in hand. 49ers are preparing. My guess is eating Pringles and watching Walking Dead reruns, but who knows for sure. HouseofEuphoria and PokerSteve 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler11 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 1 hour ago, FalconsIn2012 said: LaFleur asked to stay as QB coach and we said no thx I didn't know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethal Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 I will never understand the infatuation here with LaFleur or McDaniel. We should have just kept Sark. Tribal Chief, A Pimp Named Slickback™, AUTiger7222 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcndave Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 12 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said: I was reading up on the talented offensive assistants we didn’t bother retaining in 2017. We let 4 future OC/HC’s walk without offering so much as a peep of objection. We kept just two coaches from that historic offense which is simply retarted considering the objective was to retain Shanny’s offense....and the ones we kept are not very good. Looking at you, Morgan....regardless, I came across this excerpt and it really makes me wonder what our coaches are up to lately. I haven’t heard much of anything. “A new rule change from the NFL could weaken the 49ers’ coaching staff in 2021. Effective immediately, NFL teams no longer can block their assistant coaches from interviewing for other teams’ coordinator jobs. Big news for 49ers head coach Kyle Shanahan, because he blocked two of his assistants from becoming coordinators just last year. Shanahan blocked the interviews for two reasons: 1. He could 2. He depends on McDaniel and LaFleur. They do so much work for him. On a recent video conference with Bay Area reporters, fullback Kyle Juszczyk explained just how important McDaniel and LaFleur are to the offense: “They have been extremely involved. Both of them could run their offense right now -- probably could have years ago. Right now, LaFleur and McDaniel have been pre-recording videos for us to watch on all our pass concepts, our run game. They’ve done a lot of them -- I’m talking 30 15-minute videos, where they’re in their living rooms in front of a projector going over how we install everything. Really just installing the offense for Kyle. And then we go into these offensive skill meetings, and Kyle elaborates on what they already have installed. I truly believe both of them are so capable and ready to run their own offenses. It’s going to be a bummer for us when we lose one of them. They’re going to be really hard to replace, because they’re so valuable and important to this offense and contribute so much to what we do as a team.” Here’s what you need to know about those two: 1. McDaniel is the star. Remember all those new run plays and wrinkles the 49ers used for the first time in 2019? Those probably came from McDaniel. Shanahan and his father are zone-blocking purists. McDaniel is a run-game genius who has mastered every blocking scheme. Most teams would love to have him. Just not the Falcons apparently The less the Falcons disclose, on almost all subjects related to competition and athletic readiness, the more I like it. Peteshweddy and falconsd56 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayOzOne Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 As someone stated in another thread, it's a bad time to be a talented UDFA. Teams are going to keep players who are experienced with their schemes and OCs and the Brian Pooles of the world are going to have a hard time catching eyes with virtual instruction and fewer preseason games to stand out. I'd be shocked if Terrell is any better than serviceable for the first eight games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runshoot Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 12 hours ago, FalconFanSince1970 said: Yall are really bugging on the coaching front. I think we got enough GMs and coaches. Probably need 2-3 more players. Then gotta execute. That's been the problem that's led to back to back 7-9s. If the brotherhood don't execute and we do a third 7-9, heads could roll. Won't be easy. Schedule looks tough. Division could be a problem. Please rise. Need rest. Coaching sure made a difference after the bye week on defense last year. The numbers are out there, we ran way more cover 2 in the back half of the season than the first half. Thats coaching. Super bowl? Had coaches run the ball , we win. Kick the field goal we win. Kneel the ball on the 22 3 times, we win. DQ has been so bad at clock management , he hired a game management coach last year. DQ sticking up for Beasley... I mean how many things do we need to list before you realize, people are "bugging" on the coaching front because we need to be bugging on the coaches front. Dirk run scheme couldnt open a hole for a mouse. DQs hybrid 3-4/4-3 last year was shredded. We have 2 first round DEs. We have a pro bowl MLB, a pro bowl DT. We have an all world WR, a first round #2 WR, a first round TE, one of the best Centers in the game, a first round LT, a first round RB, a first round RG, a top10 QB..... And you want to say its not the coaches, its that we are short some players. LMMMAOOOOO. I guess we need pro bowlers at every position just to win? PokerSteve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NWFALCON Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 5 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said: The point was the 49ers offensive coaching staf is installing their offense. I’m curious what our staff is up to. Have not heard much of anything Preparation and execution go hand in hand. 49ers are preparing. Our coaches are doing the same as well as working technique with the players. Vandy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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