Dirtybird3 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 10 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said: With Tru finally coming off the books we now have 11.5 million remaining CAP space to put the finishing touches on what could be another spectacular offseason by Dimitroff, Quinn & Co. Not that I don't believe you, but this is higher than what I had been seeing posted recently. Now that we have out Post June 1st money. Can we confirm this is in fact the the amount we have left to spend? Including the 3-4 mil for the draft class?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted June 9, 2020 Author Share Posted June 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dirtybird3 said: Not that I don't believe you, but this is higher than what I had been seeing posted recently. Now that we have out Post June 1st money. Can we confirm this is in fact the the amount we have left to spend? Including the 3-4 mil for the draft class?? https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/atlanta-falcons/cap/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GATXBOI Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Ezekiel 25:17 said: NOT taking that political bait at all!! Lol but it's TRUE 08 12 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimeyKidd Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 9 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said: Great teams have a healthy balance of veterans and players on rookie contracts. The vets are huge Wed-Friday getting the team prepared. Guys like Freeney, Malloy, Cornelius Bennett, Poe etc have impact not seen in the box score. Our 2020 roster is still incredibly young, especially at CB & LB Understandable. But I believe we have it but we don't realize. I think we need to allow the guys we have a chance to be leaders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando C. Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Get me Eric Reid in a cheap deal.... and vet minimun for Darron Lee... and thats it.. lets roll with this.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 3 hours ago, Dirtybird3 said: Not that I don't believe you, but this is higher than what I had been seeing posted recently. Now that we have out Post June 1st money. Can we confirm this is in fact the the amount we have left to spend? Including the 3-4 mil for the draft class?? Someone posted the info in another thread After signing our draft class, adding the 52 and 53 players, and leaving 3 mil to sign players during the season, it only leaves with about 4 in real space Without even more restructuring anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted June 9, 2020 Author Share Posted June 9, 2020 3 hours ago, Dirtybird3 said: Not that I don't believe you, but this is higher than what I had been seeing posted recently. Now that we have out Post June 1st money. Can we confirm this is in fact the the amount we have left to spend? Including the 3-4 mil for the draft class?? Atlanta Falcons --Change Team--BillsDolphinsPatriotsJetsRavensBengalsBrownsSteelersTexansColtsJaguarsTitansBroncosChiefsRaidersChargersCowboysGiantsEaglesRedskinsBearsLionsPackersVikingsFalconsPanthersSaintsBuccaneersCardinalsRams49ersSeahawks Year Total Liabilities Salary Cap (Projected) Cap Room 2020 $190,882,329 $201,906,680 $11,024,351 2021 $214,940,763 $215,000,000 $59,237 2022 $180,639,940 $227,500,000 $46,860,060 2023 $90,680,360 $241,000,000 $150,319,640 Legend June 1 Cut Cut Traded Tendered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-train Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 1 hour ago, FalconsIn2012 said: Atlanta Falcons --Change Team--BillsDolphinsPatriotsJetsRavensBengalsBrownsSteelersTexansColtsJaguarsTitansBroncosChiefsRaidersChargersCowboysGiantsEaglesRedskinsBearsLionsPackersVikingsFalconsPanthersSaintsBuccaneersCardinalsRams49ersSeahawks Year Total Liabilities Salary Cap (Projected) Cap Room 2020 $190,882,329 $201,906,680 $11,024,351 2021 $214,940,763 $215,000,000 $59,237 2022 $180,639,940 $227,500,000 $46,860,060 2023 $90,680,360 $241,000,000 $150,319,640 Legend June 1 Cut Cut Traded Tendered In a similar thread a week or two ago, I mentioned that the best course of action might actually be to roll as much available 2020 cap money over to next year, rather than spending it all on a free agent just because we can. Seeing this chart is showing just $59k in projected cap room for 2021 right now... and considering there's been chatter about the 2021 cap potentially decreasing form the current projections depending how things unfold for the NFL over the next few months.... I'm even more inclined to say that's probably the best thing to do. HouseofEuphoria and Syndicate0017 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtybird3 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 2 hours ago, hjerry said: Someone posted the info in another thread After signing our draft class, adding the 52 and 53 players, and leaving 3 mil to sign players during the season, it only leaves with about 4 in real space Without even more restructuring anyway 5 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/atlanta-falcons/cap/ 1 hour ago, FalconsIn2012 said: Atlanta Falcons --Change Team--BillsDolphinsPatriotsJetsRavensBengalsBrownsSteelersTexansColtsJaguarsTitansBroncosChiefsRaidersChargersCowboysGiantsEaglesRedskinsBearsLionsPackersVikingsFalconsPanthersSaintsBuccaneersCardinalsRams49ersSeahawks Year Total Liabilities Salary Cap (Projected) Cap Room 2020 $190,882,329 $201,906,680 $11,024,351 2021 $214,940,763 $215,000,000 $59,237 2022 $180,639,940 $227,500,000 $46,860,060 2023 $90,680,360 $241,000,000 $150,319,640 Legend June 1 Cut Cut Traded Tendered So closer to 4 and change, or 11 and change lol FalconsIn2012 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific_Falcon Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 17 hours ago, metatron360 said: We still paying schaub all that cash? He probably makes less than the timeout consultant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 6 hours ago, k-train said: In a similar thread a week or two ago, I mentioned that the best course of action might actually be to roll as much available 2020 cap money over to next year, rather than spending it all on a free agent just because we can. Seeing this chart is showing just $59k in projected cap room for 2021 right now... and considering there's been chatter about the 2021 cap potentially decreasing form the current projections depending how things unfold for the NFL over the next few months.... I'm even more inclined to say that's probably the best thing to do. Cap will continue its upward slope increases in 2021. TD/DQ are fighting for their jobs. Not sure they’ll spend this $7-$8 mil wisely, but i’m pretty confident they‘ll spend it all. FalconsIn2012 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShmevinShmarris Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 (edited) Make a trade for a top OLB Edited June 10, 2020 by ShmevinShmarris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-train Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Vandy said: Cap will continue its upward slope increases in 2021. TD/DQ are fighting for their jobs. Not sure they’ll spend this $7-$8 mil wisely, but i’m pretty confident they‘ll spend it all. True, it will most likely continue to increase, but the fact that the commissioner came out recently and said a decrease for 2021 is a very real possibility is something teams have to be prepared for. As for the "fighting for their jobs" thing... I totally get where you're coming from, but I always think that's kind of a silly argument when it relates directly to conversations about the following season. The entire intent of that premise is to win enough games to save their jobs and still be here next year. So if the whole point is to still be the GM & HC in 2021 and beyond, how/why on Earth would they not ALSO be considering things beyond this season? 1989Fan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerSteve Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 On 6/8/2020 at 11:59 PM, Falcons_Frenzy said: I think they should pay all of us for putting up with all their shortcomings. Some of us have been around for so long, they don't have the cap space to even take care of us long-haulers, much less the whole fan base. Falcons_Frenzy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerSteve Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 On 6/9/2020 at 3:00 AM, FalconsIn2012 said: Great teams have a healthy balance of veterans and players on rookie contracts. The vets are huge Wed-Friday getting the team prepared. Guys like Freeney, Malloy, Cornelius Bennett, Poe etc have impact not seen in the box score. Our 2020 roster is still incredibly young, especially at CB & LB Exactly. I think Griffen and Curry would be a tremendous help to our young players and increase our chances for the SB. FalconsIn2012 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted June 10, 2020 Author Share Posted June 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, PokerSteve said: Exactly. I think Griffen and Curry would be a tremendous help to our young players and increase our chances for the SB. Griffen & Curry would be awesome... PokerSteve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 I don't believe GRIFFEN nor CURRY are all that realistic. After rookie monies gone, leaves us about $7mm. Falcons need a vet corner and a vet LB. Likely a 1 year deal for each. Given the resources given to DL with the monies to FOWLER and draft capital to Marlon Davidson - I doubt the Falcons plan to do much more on the DL. They are probably also hopeful on Comminsky. Is what we have at passrush enough now? Probably not unless Takk McKinley turns it up a notch, but the vet CB and vet LB probably a greater need. Mister pudding and Vandy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caddieman Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 On 6/9/2020 at 6:33 AM, 1989Fan said: Schaub has a $2MM salary and $2.375M cap hit. Not sure why people think he is paid so handsomely, he isn’t paid a ton for a QB2 TBH. Bingo you can’t smell a quality backup QB for under 5 mill a year. Schaub ain’t going anywhere. I think next year we draft a QB in the 4th round or later to try and take Schaubs place. JMO 1989Fan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted June 10, 2020 Author Share Posted June 10, 2020 1 hour ago, g-dawg said: I don't believe GRIFFEN nor CURRY are all that realistic. After rookie monies gone, leaves us about $7mm. Falcons need a vet corner and a vet LB. Likely a 1 year deal for each. Given the resources given to DL with the monies to FOWLER and draft capital to Marlon Davidson - I doubt the Falcons plan to do much more on the DL. They are probably also hopeful on Comminsky. Is what we have at passrush enough now? Probably not unless Takk McKinley turns it up a notch, but the vet CB and vet LB probably a greater need. We can add an extra 4.5 million pretty easily by cutting Hill & Schaub (not really in favor of cutting Schaub). That would leave us 12.5 million and if we sign Griffen to a 3 year contract we could easily afford him and Curry. Fowler is only a 6 mill CAP it this year so we could get Griffen for less year 1 on a multi yr deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 1 hour ago, FalconsIn2012 said: We can add an extra 4.5 million pretty easily by cutting Hill & Schaub (not really in favor of cutting Schaub). That would leave us 12.5 million and if we sign Griffen to a 3 year contract we could easily afford him and Curry. Fowler is only a 6 mill CAP it this year so we could get Griffen for less year 1 on a multi yr deal I would expect the market for Griffen to be more than the market for Curry. Falcons would bargain shop between those two if they were even considering - which I still doubt. Also, Griffen a little cra-cra and we already have one cra-cra in Takk. Just not believing Falcons would be in the Griffen market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLskinjob Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 I really don't think we do anything with this small amount of cap. From what I remember about previous years, TD typically likes to hold onto a little chunk of change as injury insurance, which is definitely a prudent thing to do. I would be really surprised if we could sign someone productive like Griffen with this small amount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 On 6/9/2020 at 6:28 PM, GrimeyKidd said: Ill be the only one but ill say NOBODY BABY. Lets develop the talent we have. I’m with you. Only thing that changes this is if we add a vet presence on the backend and even then I feel we have enough back there not to warrant it. I think now we have enough experience across the board not to warrant such a move.We don’t need too many chefs in the kitchen but we do need the chefs minions ie the guys in those years 2,3 and 4 to develop into pieces that improve the recipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconfansince66 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 If this is correct, you can bet your (_!_) that it'll get spent somewhere considering that DQ and TD are sitting on some heated seats right now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atl Falcon Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 But the cap’s not a problem🤥 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHEC Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Clay matthews jr? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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