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Covid-19 thread 2.0

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6 hours ago, ya_boi_j said:

Yeah miss me with all that Spanish Flu of 1918 BS, they're going to have to be extremely creative in order to have football this fall. As much as it would suck not to, I don't want anyone to put themselves at risk for our entertainment. Especially college players that aren't getting paid

https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2020/06/26/clemson-says-14-more-football-players-test-positive-for-virus-total-now-at-37/?fbclid=IwAR2fblsq1QW7jwKr9diIUMcUf5ZDj-ZSYLY3WsMdzpgJuaypRGDpusVekCA

Just watch. The big football schools are going to need a bailout next because so much of their revenue is generated from their football programs.

Add in the money they lose from empty student housing and it’s going to get ugly...

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3 hours ago, wartownfalcon said:

Still don’t mean they died of COVID. Just means you have an antibody. And could have been the common cold since it’s from the same coronavirus family

So it depends on what reporting we are talking about wartownfalcon. Of course you have a strong opinion on this topic, because for many this is a political issue more than it is public safety...but COVID-19 testing specifically looks for COVID-19, not the other 5 types of coronavirus that cause human illness. We utilize a test called an RPP(Respiratory pathogen panel), or similar ilk, which tests for a slew of viral illness that cause URI's, in which it tests for some of those coronaviri, but it DOES NOT test for COVID. 

So if a person has a + COVID PCR test, negative RPP(for other viri) then it IS COVID-19 coronavirus, not a different one.

And if a person has a PCR test(the majority of public health and hospital tests utilize this method, not the antibody testing) then they are likely shedding the virus and could either be recovered in the illness or still in the throws of illness. A positive PCR test has nothing to do with antibody testing. 

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The only positive thing we can say is we're not Belgium, United Kingdom, Spain, Italy, or France. Man, WTH is wrong in those places? 

COVID-19 deaths worldwide per one million population as of June 30, 2020, by country

 
 

Coronavirus (COVID-19) deaths worldwide per one million population as of June 30, 2020, by country

Search:Records:132550
  Confirmed deaths (absolute) Population (in millions) Deaths per million
Belgium 9,732 11.42 852.03
United Kingdom 43,575 66.49 655.37
Spain 28,346 46.72 606.67
Italy 34,744 60.43 574.93
Sweden 5,310 10.18 521.45
France 29,750 66.99 444.11
USA 125,975 327.17 385.05
Ireland 1,735 4.85 357.47
Netherlands 6,107 17.23 354.42
Chile 5,575 18.73 297.66
Peru 9,504 31.99 297.1
Brazil 58,314 209.47 278.39
Ecuador 4,502 17.08 263.52

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1 hour ago, ki46dinah said:

So it depends on what reporting we are talking about wartownfalcon. Of course you have a strong opinion on this topic, because for many this is a political issue more than it is public safety...but COVID-19 testing specifically looks for COVID-19, not the other 5 types of coronavirus that cause human illness. We utilize a test called an RPP(Respiratory pathogen panel), or similar ilk, which tests for a slew of viral illness that cause URI's, in which it tests for some of those coronaviri, but it DOES NOT test for COVID. 

So if a person has a + COVID PCR test, negative RPP(for other viri) then it IS COVID-19 coronavirus, not a different one.

And if a person has a PCR test(the majority of public health and hospital tests utilize this method, not the antibody testing) then they are likely shedding the virus and could either be recovered in the illness or still in the throws of illness. A positive PCR test has nothing to do with antibody testing. 

Just a heads up. You're wasting your time trying to talk logic and common sense with him

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Always look at what people do more so then what they say. If a group of people tell you to stay home because of the virus and then go out and breaks their own rules with mass gatherings it makes you wonder.

Do as I say not as I do

 

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4 hours ago, ya_boi_j said:

Just a heads up. You're wasting your time trying to talk logic and common sense with him

Yeah I know, just tough workin  as a clinician taking care of sick people that have this stupid virus, and for people to explain it away like it’s not a big deal hurts my soul. 

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7 hours ago, ki46dinah said:

So it depends on what reporting we are talking about wartownfalcon. Of course you have a strong opinion on this topic, because for many this is a political issue more than it is public safety...but COVID-19 testing specifically looks for COVID-19, not the other 5 types of coronavirus that cause human illness. We utilize a test called an RPP(Respiratory pathogen panel), or similar ilk, which tests for a slew of viral illness that cause URI's, in which it tests for some of those coronaviri, but it DOES NOT test for COVID. 

So if a person has a + COVID PCR test, negative RPP(for other viri) then it IS COVID-19 coronavirus, not a different one.

And if a person has a PCR test(the majority of public health and hospital tests utilize this method, not the antibody testing) then they are likely shedding the virus and could either be recovered in the illness or still in the throws of illness. A positive PCR test has nothing to do with antibody testing. 

 It looks for an antibody. That link is directly to the CDC website. So who is telling the truth?

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6 hours ago, ya_boi_j said:

Just a heads up. You're wasting your time trying to talk logic and common sense with him

Bro come on. I’m stating exactly what the CDC has on their site. I will quote it for you...

If you test positive

  • A positive test result shows you may have antibodies from an infection with the virus that causes COVID-19. However, there is a chance a positive result means that you have antibodies from an infection with a virus from the same family of viruses (called coronaviruses), such as the one that causes the common cold.
  • Having antibodies to the virus that causes COVID-19 may provide protection from getting infected with the virus again. If it does, we do not know how much protection the antibodies may provide or how long this protection may last.

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4 minutes ago, wartownfalcon said:

I’m going off the CDC. That’s the guidelines everyone is going by and fearing their live over.

You're going off the CDC and what they have to say about Antibody testing.....it literally says at the top of the page "test for past infection".

 

What was explained to you is how they test people who are suspected of currently having or just recently having it and how it's a different test.

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