birdz4i Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 PAUL NEWBERRY ,Associated Press •May 21, 2020 ATLANTA (AP) — Whenever some sense of normalcy returns to the NFL, Isaiah Oliver knows there will be a new role waiting for him as a leader in the Atlanta Falcons’ secondary. A second-round draft pick out of Colorado in 2018, Oliver is suddenly one of the most experienced cornerbacks on the roster after the team cut longtime stalwart Desmond Trufant in a salary cap move. Oliver looked like a bust until a turnaround over the second half of last season, when he finally started playing with a level of confidence the Falcons expected. He’s still got work to do, especially when it comes to pressing receivers at the line of scrimmage. But the team is counting on him to become a lock-down cornerback and positive influence on the younger players around him, especially first-rounder A.J. Terrell from Clemson. “With Tru leaving, I definitely have to step into more of a leadership role,” the 23-year-old Oliver said this week during a video call with Atlanta media. “There’s a lot of young guys in the room, but I’m capable and ready to do that. I understand the defense really well. I understand what the coaches want. It’s just a matter of going out there and doing it every week.” While Oliver graded out as one of the worst cornerbacks in the league a year ago, his improvement over the second half of the schedule was a big part of the turnaround after coach Dan Quinn turned over the defensive coordinator’s role to Raheem Morris. Bouncing back from a 1-7 start, the Falcons won six of the final eight games to save Quinn’s job and provide a bit of hope heading into the 2020 season. Morris simplified the scheme and encouraged each player to focus on his individual strengths. “Whether it was playing a certain technique or playing a certain receiver a certain way, he wanted us to be comfortable with what we were doing and really work on that one thing,” Oliver said. “He didn’t want everyone trying to do the same things. We’re all different types of players.” Starting all 16 games and playing nearly 90 percent of the defensive snaps, Oliver had 62 tackles and broke up 11 passes. But he failed to make an interception, which will surely be a point of emphasis for new secondary coach Joe Whitt Jr., and surrendered far too many completions. Oliver looks forward to working with Whitt, who is particularly known for his work in Green Bay with defensive backs such as Charles Woodson and Sam Shields. “He knows the game really well,” Oliver said. “He’s coached a lot of great DBs, including some guys who were not supposed to be good DBs but ended up being good DBs.” Whitt will have his work cut out for him in Atlanta, where the top four cornerbacks all have two years or less of experience; especially playing in the NFC South, which means a pair of games against two of the greatest quarterbacks ever, Tampa Bay’s Tom Brady and Drew Brees of New Orleans. “I’m looking forward to the challenge. We’ve talked about it a little bit as a group,” Oliver said. “This is an opportunity to show just how good we really are.” Oliver and Terrell figure to be the starting cornerbacks, backed up by a pair of 2019 draft picks, Kendall Sheffield and Jordan Miller. While the coronavirus pandemic has forced teams to conduct virtual offseason programs, Oliver has worked out a few times at local parks with some of the other Atlanta-based receivers and defensive backs. They’ve done some individual work, as well as one-on-one and seven-on-seven drills — presumably while complying with social distancing and other safety guidelines. “We’ve been able to do some things we would’ve done if we were at the facility,” Oliver said. “The competitive juices come out. We’re all there to compete. We expect to win every rep we do. We’re definitely still staying safe and staying healthy. We’re not going to hurt each other. But it’s been some good work.” Oliver expects big things from the secondary, even if some view it as one of the team’s most glaring question marks. “It is a young group, but a really smart group,” he said. “The guys are already at a level of understanding the defense really well even if they’ve only been in the system for one year. Obviously, losing a guy like Tru ... changes some things. But I definitely like the group we have.” https://www.yahoo.com/news/falcons-cb-oliver-ready-leadership-200758550.html Charles Wright, Francis York Morgan, Goober Pyle and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurry_Up_And_Buy Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Until the Falcons figure out that they need a true nose tackle who can collapse the pocket with Grady this young secondary as per usual is gonna have a tough time developing due to us fixing one area of the D while another one breaks down. FalconAge and Atl Falcon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis York Morgan Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 12 minutes ago, birdz4i said: Morris simplified the scheme and encouraged each player to focus on his individual strengths. “Whether it was playing a certain technique or playing a certain receiver a certain way, he wanted us to be comfortable with what we were doing and really work on that one thing,” Oliver said. “He didn’t want everyone trying to do the same things. We’re all different types of players.” Oof. That says a lot. Charles Wright, PokerSteve, Drew4719 and 11 others 13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconfansince66 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 It is said "Leaders lead by example". I wish Oliver all the luck in doing just that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Hurry_Up_And_Buy said: Until the Falcons figure out that they need a true nose tackle who can collapse the pocket with Grady this young secondary as per usual is gonna have a tough time developing due to us fixing one area of the D while another one breaks down. Very few guys like that left playing in the league it’s why they’ve got Davison there and have penetrating DTs who fit the scheme. ATLSlobberKnockers, SoCalFalconFan, PokerSteve and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caponine Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Ohhh boy here we go again 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️, he doesnt need any more responsibility as he has a hard enough time as it already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRUNKuno Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Y’all really sleep on Oliver. Once they started letting him play to his strengths his confidence and play skyrocketed. Sure he had mistakes every now and then but he was practically a rookie. He made great strides and began to show that playmaking ability he showed in college. red falcon, TheFatboi, Emmitt and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peoriabird Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 3 hours ago, Francis York Morgan said: Oof. That says a lot. Yep...No confusing cross training! lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightningDawg58 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) I believe Blidi Wreh today is more of a leader in the in the CB room than Oliver. Been in the league since 2013 and with the Falcons since 2016. He not only has the game experience, but he also understands the expectations of the scheme and staff well. He is well respected around the building, been in many battles with us including both the last 2 playoff runs we had. Oliver will have the leg up on him as far as playtime will go, so if that's what makes a leader then go with that. But the true "vet" in the room is Wreh-Wilson. Even Josh Hawkins has been around the league a lot longer too, and seems to have a mature, professional makeup. I dont see Oliver as a true "Alpha" to the point you assume he can or will flip a switch and take over the reigns. He is too inconsistent on film for him to carry much weight in the meeting room. If I had to guess, Sheffield will likely be the first of this young CB crop to emerge vocally, as soon as year 3. None of this is contingent upon depth chart-hierarchy or playtime. Many other factors effect those outcomes. This is about who is the presence in the meeting room and on the sideline that can best guide his teammates. Right now my money is on #33 Heck Id even put Rico ahead of Oliver, he is more likely to check the CB group even at the safety position Edited May 22, 2020 by LightningDawg58 Mister pudding, Dirtybird56 and Hurry_Up_And_Buy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Make some plays. Lead by example Boise Falcon Fan, Francis York Morgan, Mister pudding and 4 others 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister pudding Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 I think that we need to decipher the difference between seniority and leadership. Leadership is not something that is inherited because you know the defense, have been there for more years, or even if you are a star. Leadership is an attribute that only 5% of the population possesses. Maybe he has it, I don't know. I do hope that he continues getting better everyday Jerz, Francis York Morgan and Vandy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 On 5/22/2020 at 11:27 AM, Knight of God said: Make some plays. Lead by example On 5/22/2020 at 12:00 PM, Mister pudding said: I think that we need to decipher the difference between seniority and leadership. Leadership is not something that is inherited because you know the defense, have been there for more years, or even if you are a star. Leadership is an attribute that only 5% of the population possesses. Maybe he has it, I don't know. I do hope that he continues getting better everyday Good points. Out team has plenty of players/coaches who like to talk about leadership in the media. Talk is cheap. True leadership is on the field and in the locker room. Jerz, Francis York Morgan, atlbaby and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octoslash Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 He played better last half of the season but he's got a ways to go before causing any concern among opposing offenses. Dr Long Shot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RING OF HONOR Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Last year I stated that Quinn was making things to complex....and asking players to do too much...and were confusing them.... People here said no....that's not it... Now everywhere I look...there's a report saying the same thing.... I'm not always right...but when I am right....I'm always right... 😉😉🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 vitaman and Vandy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red falcon Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 17 hours ago, KRUNKuno said: Y’all really sleep on Oliver. Once they started letting him play to his strengths his confidence and play skyrocketed. Sure he had mistakes every now and then but he was practically a rookie. He made great strides and began to show that playmaking ability he showed in college. For real. He was a completely different player second half. People only remember the bad you do. KRUNKuno 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightningDawg58 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Seniority plays a much bigger role when there isn't an alpha in the room. Dynamics are important. There is definitely a balance, and wisdom via experience plays a huge role in leadership. Being battle tested allows you to nip certain things in the bud early. You know not just the "what", but the "how and why". Doesnt mean guys are going to follow you, but your input carries weight and it cant be ignored. I think Oliver is well spoken but his football IQ doesnt come across extremely high and he is still maturing. Doesnt mean he isnt a hard worker or a lead by example type. Just that he has been extremely raw since he got here and is still learning proper technique heading in to year 3. He seems to be the player that most needs a vet mentor in his ear at all times. Terrell will be the best player in the room over everyone, but he has a very cool quiet demeanor that I think will take longer for him to open up vocally. (Talk is cheap, but communication is everything). I can see him leap frog Oliver as a leader easily once he gets past all the rookie hazing and BS. Sheffield is further along than Oliver and seems very dedicated to his craft. His play style is confident and aggressive. He is low key like Terrell, but I think he has an "it" factor about him that will make him a good pro for a long time. He would be the guy I'd look to the most out that younger group. Oliver by default may be the "leader", but he has to prove he can be consistent over an entire season otherwise that title won't last very long. Jerz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade C Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 22 hours ago, birdz4i said: While Oliver graded out as one of the worst cornerbacks in the league a year ago, his improvement over the second half of the schedule was a big part of the turnaround after coach Dan Quinn turned over the defensive coordinator’s role to Raheem Morris. Bouncing back from a 1-7 start, the Falcons won six of the final eight games to save Quinn’s job and provide a bit of hope heading into the 2020 season. "He was one of the suckiest in the league.....but sucked a little less when the Defensive genius head coach got the **** out of the way and let a D-Coordinator work with the kid...this ultimately saved the Head Coach's job.... Leadership. tbhawksfan and NashvilleFalcon01 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UGABOZ Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 IO has struggled big time. Prove it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurry_Up_And_Buy Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Man WTH is up with Thomas Dimitrioff and these second round picks? Deion Jones has been that man's only saving grace when it comes to his ability to pinpoint high value guys in the second round. It's like he gimps the roster a little bit with every second round flop smh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalFalconFan Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 On 5/21/2020 at 1:51 PM, birdz4i said: PAUL NEWBERRY ,Associated Press •May 21, 2020 ATLANTA (AP) — Whenever some sense of normalcy returns to the NFL, Isaiah Oliver knows there will be a new role waiting for him as a leader in the Atlanta Falcons’ secondary. A second-round draft pick out of Colorado in 2018, Oliver is suddenly one of the most experienced cornerbacks on the roster after the team cut longtime stalwart Desmond Trufant in a salary cap move. Oliver looked like a bust until a turnaround over the second half of last season, when he finally started playing with a level of confidence the Falcons expected. He’s still got work to do, especially when it comes to pressing receivers at the line of scrimmage. But the team is counting on him to become a lock-down cornerback and positive influence on the younger players around him, especially first-rounder A.J. Terrell from Clemson. “With Tru leaving, I definitely have to step into more of a leadership role,” the 23-year-old Oliver said this week during a video call with Atlanta media. “There’s a lot of young guys in the room, but I’m capable and ready to do that. I understand the defense really well. I understand what the coaches want. It’s just a matter of going out there and doing it every week.” While Oliver graded out as one of the worst cornerbacks in the league a year ago, his improvement over the second half of the schedule was a big part of the turnaround after coach Dan Quinn turned over the defensive coordinator’s role to Raheem Morris. Bouncing back from a 1-7 start, the Falcons won six of the final eight games to save Quinn’s job and provide a bit of hope heading into the 2020 season. Morris simplified the scheme and encouraged each player to focus on his individual strengths. “Whether it was playing a certain technique or playing a certain receiver a certain way, he wanted us to be comfortable with what we were doing and really work on that one thing,” Oliver said. “He didn’t want everyone trying to do the same things. We’re all different types of players.” Starting all 16 games and playing nearly 90 percent of the defensive snaps, Oliver had 62 tackles and broke up 11 passes. But he failed to make an interception, which will surely be a point of emphasis for new secondary coach Joe Whitt Jr., and surrendered far too many completions. Oliver looks forward to working with Whitt, who is particularly known for his work in Green Bay with defensive backs such as Charles Woodson and Sam Shields. “He knows the game really well,” Oliver said. “He’s coached a lot of great DBs, including some guys who were not supposed to be good DBs but ended up being good DBs.” Whitt will have his work cut out for him in Atlanta, where the top four cornerbacks all have two years or less of experience; especially playing in the NFC South, which means a pair of games against two of the greatest quarterbacks ever, Tampa Bay’s Tom Brady and Drew Brees of New Orleans. “I’m looking forward to the challenge. We’ve talked about it a little bit as a group,” Oliver said. “This is an opportunity to show just how good we really are.” Oliver and Terrell figure to be the starting cornerbacks, backed up by a pair of 2019 draft picks, Kendall Sheffield and Jordan Miller. While the coronavirus pandemic has forced teams to conduct virtual offseason programs, Oliver has worked out a few times at local parks with some of the other Atlanta-based receivers and defensive backs. They’ve done some individual work, as well as one-on-one and seven-on-seven drills — presumably while complying with social distancing and other safety guidelines. “We’ve been able to do some things we would’ve done if we were at the facility,” Oliver said. “The competitive juices come out. We’re all there to compete. We expect to win every rep we do. We’re definitely still staying safe and staying healthy. We’re not going to hurt each other. But it’s been some good work.” Oliver expects big things from the secondary, even if some view it as one of the team’s most glaring question marks. “It is a young group, but a really smart group,” he said. “The guys are already at a level of understanding the defense really well even if they’ve only been in the system for one year. Obviously, losing a guy like Tru ... changes some things. But I definitely like the group we have.” https://www.yahoo.com/news/falcons-cb-oliver-ready-leadership-200758550.html I don't know. I'd prefer the secondary leadership continue to fall to KeKe and Coach Ricardo Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightningDawg58 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 3 hours ago, SoCalFalconFan said: I don't know. I'd prefer the secondary leadership continue to fall to KeKe and Coach Ricardo Allen. It most definitely will honestly. I think the CB specific room is in question though. But secondary overall is the safety positions for sure. Even Kazee has more leadership chops in him than most the young CBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 I need to see more consistency before I’m buying this Boise Falcon Fan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faithful Falcon Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 On 5/21/2020 at 5:05 PM, Francis York Morgan said: Oof. That says a lot. It's pretty much what most of us have been saying. I've defended Oliver, as I did Brent Grimes when most were bragging about Christopher Owens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peoriabird Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 8 hours ago, Hurry_Up_And_Buy said: Man WTH is up with Thomas Dimitrioff and these second round picks? Deion Jones has been that man's only saving grace when it comes to his ability to pinpoint high value guys in the second round. It's like he gimps the roster a little bit with every second round flop smh Don't forget about William Moore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.11 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 On 5/22/2020 at 2:59 PM, Doug Carlton said: "He was one of the suckiest in the league.....but sucked a little less when the Defensive genius head coach got the **** out of the way and let a D-Coordinator work with the kid...this ultimately saved the Head Coach's job.... Leadership. Leadership is also being able to identify said problems and making adjustments, so ironically by relinquishing his playcalling duties to Morris, DQ showed tremendous leadership under pressure. Featuring players in their best role is what DQ brought to the team. Remember, this is how Rico went from out of a job, to practice squad player, to starting safety on his second contract. That's what the cross training is for--seeing who can do what well. That's how you extract the most value out of your players. GrimeyKidd and Vandy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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