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Falcons coach Dan Quinn on new DE Charles Harris

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Defensive end Charles Harris, a former first-round draft pick who was acquired in a trade with Miami, is expected to be a part of the Falcons’ defensive line rotation, coach Dan Quinn said Tuesday.

“We want to get him in, get him to know the guys, get him to know the program,” Quinn said. “Get the best version of him.”

Harris was drafted 22nd overall in the 2017 draft, but has been labeled as a bust after recording only 3.5 sacks over 41 games and eight starts. 

The Falcons sent a seventh-round pick to the Dolphins to get Harris, who played at Missouri. 

“We are still learning him,” Quinn said. “What’s the best weight for him so that he can really explode and be at his best. Those are things that we’ll learn as we go.”

Harris has made a good first impression during the virtual offseason program.

“He’s been a good addition for us,” Quinn said.

 

 

 

https://www.ajc.com/sports/football/quinn-new-charles-harris/xAN90lcov5jA3fbaqQxMYI/

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4 hours ago, Ovie_Lover said:

More than fine with us trading 7ths away for former first rounders who aren't producing especially if we can get them to produce. 

Definitely. I'd for sure bet that more former 1st rounds turn their career around after the first 3 years and become good players than 7th round picks become good players

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1 hour ago, FalconsIn2012 said:

I need guys in the know to fill me in.  How can Quinn say “Harris has been a good addition for us” when they likely haven’t seen each other yet.  Can they discern much through these virtual meetings?

That’s your interpretation? Really?

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7 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said:

I need guys in the know to fill me in.  How can Quinn say “Harris has been a good addition for us” when they likely haven’t seen each other yet.  Can they discern much through these virtual meetings?

 

Harris worked out for the Falcons before the 2017 NFL draft. At the time, Harris said Falcons coach Dan Quinn was "great'' and "I like the defense they run." Atlanta drafted defensive end Takk McKinley at No. 26 overall in 2017, four spots after Miami selected Harris.

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Hopefully, Harris and McKinley can see each other as challengers.  If one gets a sack, the other will feel a need to get a sack.  If one creates a turnover, the other will feel a need to get a turnover.

McKinley's biggest detriment to his early career was having Beasley at the other end as he never looked at him as a challenger and never had any reason to match him in sacks since Beasley had so few after 2016-17.  McKinley also will probably look at Fowler as more of a senior or veteran above him rather than as a challenger.

However, given how closely they were drafted together and their contract statuses, Harris and McKinley have to feel the need to exceed the other.

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40 minutes ago, jlrfalcon said:

Hopefully, Harris and McKinley can see each other as challengers.  If one gets a sack, the other will feel a need to get a sack.  If one creates a turnover, the other will feel a need to get a turnover.

McKinley's biggest detriment to his early career was having Beasley at the other end as he never looked at him as a challenger and never had any reason to match him in sacks since Beasley had so few after 2016-17.  McKinley also will probably look at Fowler as more of a senior or veteran above him rather than as a challenger.

However, given how closely they were drafted together and their contract statuses, Harris and McKinley have to feel the need to exceed the other.

McKinley’s biggest detriment has been his shoulder.

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11 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said:

I need guys in the know to fill me in.  How can Quinn say “Harris has been a good addition for us” when they likely haven’t seen each other yet.  Can they discern much through these virtual meetings?

So you don't think they watch film, talk to coaches about him, do background work? Come on...

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3 hours ago, Vandy said:

Disagree. Get his shoulder cleaned up he’d be capable of an 7-8 sack season. 

He literally does have bottom tier explosiveness. To become a 7-8 sack player, he is going to have to become a master of his technique. 

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4 hours ago, Vandy said:

Disagree. Get his shoulder cleaned up he’d be capable of an 7-8 sack season. 

 

21 minutes ago, Summerhill said:

He literally does have bottom tier explosiveness. To become a 7-8 sack player, he is going to have to become a master of his technique. 

McKinnley is one trick pony, his move is Bull Rush. Just trying to brawl and push people around. He lacks explosiveness for spin move or beat the OT At the line with his movements. 
vic was opposite, explosive guy with speed but finesse. If you combined Takk and Vic, it would be great pass rush specialist.

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20 minutes ago, Summerhill said:

He literally does have bottom tier explosiveness. To become a 7-8 sack player, he is going to have to become a master of his technique. 

He manages to sit the OT back consistently, which sort of surprises me at his size.  But he needs to learn to disengage and side around them, or learn to single arm them to give himself some leeway once he's there.

He's unlikely to ever be a bend around the edge guy, but that's ok.

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17 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said:

I need guys in the know to fill me in.  How can Quinn say “Harris has been a good addition for us” when they likely haven’t seen each other yet.  Can they discern much through these virtual meetings?

He can’t say the opposite since that would make him or TD look bad. Should have just said we are still in the process of seeing how he fits our team. Hopefully he works out. We need all the help we can get. 

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