Broncos had trade up in place (79th pick) to Draft Matt Hennessy

[atljbo]

 

 

 

Quote

 

Jets had trade with Broncos nixed after Falcons drafted Matt Hennessy: sources

Jets general manager Joe Douglas proved that he wasn’t afraid to wheel and deal in his first draft, making three trades to help chart a course for the future.

Trader Joe nearly pulled off a fourth trade, too.

The Daily News has learned that the Jets had a trade in place with the Denver Broncos in the third round before the Falcons foiled their plans. Gang Green was willing to drop from No. 79 to No. 83, so Denver could move up to take Temple center Matt Hennessy, whose brother is the Jets long snapper.

However, Atlanta took Hennessy with the No. 78 overall selection, thus nixing the Jets-Broncos deal. Denver wound up taking LSU center Lloyd Cushenberry at No. 83. The Jets took Florida defensive end Jabari Zuniga, who later proclaimed to be the “steal of the draft” at No. 79.

 

 

Douglas would have picked up an additional Day 3 pick from Denver. (The Broncos had the No. 178 pick late in the fifth round, which would have been fair compensation to move up from No. 83 to No. 79. They also had the No. 181 overall pick early in the sixth round).

The Raiders took back-to-back wide receivers (Lynn Bowden, Jr., and Bryan Edwards) at Nos. 80 and 81, while the Cowboys grabbed Oklahoma defensive tackle Neville Gallimore at No. 82. So, there’s a solid chance that the Jets would have still landed Zuniga if they traded down.

Ironically, the Broncos were in the market for a center after starter Connor McGovern signed with the Jets in free agency.

 

 

 

It looks like Teams had Hen as the 2nd Center.

[UnrealfalcoN]

So Cush was their backup plan. TD is good at getting the guys that the coaches want

[FalconFanSince1969]

18 minutes ago, UnrealfalcoN said:

So Cush was their backup plan. TD is good at getting the guys that the coaches want

He's pretty good at reading a draft board too

[atljbo]

18 minutes ago, UnrealfalcoN said:

So Cush was their backup plan. TD is good at getting the guys that the coaches want

yup... We will see how this turns out but it looks like teams grades and rankings was different then the medias

 

Quote

 

Saints coach Sean Payton reflected on the scenario his team was faced with in a conference call after the first round wrapped up.

“Yeah, this draft unfolded exactly how we thought it would in front of us. Look, we paid attention to the defensive tackle from South Carolina. He fell a little bit and then was picked up by San Francisco. The corner Atlanta picked up, those were two players that began to fall below their grade,” Payton said.

Those players he referenced were South Carolina big man Javon Kinlaw and Clemson cornerback A.J. Terrell. Kinlaw was considered a potential top-ten draft pick, but he ended up slipping down to No. 14, replacing 49ers defensive lineman DeForest Buckner. Terrell was occasionally linked to the Saints in mock drafts, so his landing with the Falcons at No. 16 kind of stings.

 

 

[FalconFanSince1969]

6 minutes ago, atljbo said:

yup... We will see how this turns out but it looks like teams grades and rankings was different then the medias

 

 

So Peyton had Terrell rated even higher than we took him....

[ramonezy]

30 minutes ago, UnrealfalcoN said:

So Cush was their backup plan. TD is good at getting the guys that the coaches want

Yep... Makes me wonder why so many on here wants him to lose his job. 

[Fernando C.]

This is one of those picks that are going to be really good in time a 10 year starter for sure... 

[Tim Mazetti]

Thanks for posting. @atljbo

[LightningDawg58]

Mel Kiper Jr doesnt know everything just saying

Edited May 2, 2020 by LightningDawg58

[jlrfalcon]

1 hour ago, ramonezy said:

Yep... Makes me wonder why so many on here wants him to lose his job. 

1 pick where the value of the player received clearly exceeded the value of the pick executed out of 6 is not exactly a great report card?

Rnd 1 Terrell - could be a great player but picked too soon

Rnd 2 Davidson - maybe value of pick=value of player (meets expectations)

Rnd 3 Hennessy - a great value where we picked him (above expectations)

Rnd 4 Walker - a good player perhaps but should have been our 2nd pick in rnd 4 or later 

Rnd 4 Hawkins - probably would have been around for our 7th round pick

Rnd 7 Hoftichter - would have been available as an UDFA, could have went this year with Allen and drafted a punter next year 

 

These are not judgments of these players' eventual value but their value on draft day - every year, TD could get greater value from our draft picks than he does but always ends up clearly wasting 1 or 2 picks or overdrafting 2 or 3 players.  At least this year he did not overtrade too many draft picks in order to draft some player he is obsessed with.

[Ovie_Lover]

33 minutes ago, LightningDawg58 said:

Mike Mayock doesnt know everything just saying

Who said anything about Mayock? Must have missed it.

[Jerry Maguire]

17 minutes ago, jlrfalcon said:

1 pick where the value of the player received clearly exceeded the value of the pick executed out of 6 is not exactly a great report card?

Rnd 1 Terrell - could be a great player but picked too soon

Rnd 2 Davidson - maybe value of pick=value of player (meets expectations)

Rnd 3 Hennessy - a great value where we picked him (above expectations)

Rnd 4 Walker - a good player perhaps but should have been our 2nd pick in rnd 4 or later 

Rnd 4 Hawkins - probably would have been around for our 7th round pick

Rnd 7 Hoftichter - would have been available as an UDFA, could have went this year with Allen and drafted a punter next year 

 

These are not judgments of these players' eventual value but their value on draft day - every year, TD could get greater value from our draft picks than he does but always ends up clearly wasting 1 or 2 picks or overdrafting 2 or 3 players.  At least this year he did not overtrade too many draft picks in order to draft some player he is obsessed with.

"Probably would have been available..." 

Based on what info? Media sites that were clearly wrong having Terrell as a 2nd Rounder? Terrell had fallen below his grade according to Sean Payton. Raiders wanted him at 19. This happens every year where X player was a reach but come to find out teams were higher on the player than the consensus of draft sites.

Could the Falcons guarantee signing Hofrichter in Free Agency? They wanted him badly enough not to chance that. He will probably play longer for the Falcons than any other 7th rounder picked by TD, even Kemal Ishmail. I don't get why taking a specialist in Round 7 if he is your guy is a big deal given that the really good ones are going to be very high priority and the likelihood of position players sticking is slim.
 

[UnrealfalcoN]

44 minutes ago, jlrfalcon said:

1 pick where the value of the player received clearly exceeded the value of the pick executed out of 6 is not exactly a great report card?

Rnd 1 Terrell - could be a great player but picked too soon

Rnd 2 Davidson - maybe value of pick=value of player (meets expectations)

Rnd 3 Hennessy - a great value where we picked him (above expectations)

Rnd 4 Walker - a good player perhaps but should have been our 2nd pick in rnd 4 or later 

Rnd 4 Hawkins - probably would have been around for our 7th round pick

Rnd 7 Hoftichter - would have been available as an UDFA, could have went this year with Allen and drafted a punter next year 

 

These are not judgments of these players' eventual value but their value on draft day - every year, TD could get greater value from our draft picks than he does but always ends up clearly wasting 1 or 2 picks or overdrafting 2 or 3 players.  At least this year he did not overtrade too many draft picks in order to draft some player he is obsessed with.

Again, snap back to reality. This is the real draft, not mock draft where anything is possible and you can make a whole new one tomorrow.

[LightningDawg58]

32 minutes ago, Ovie_Lover said:

Who said anything about Mayock? Must have missed it.

I did, just then. But I meant Mel Kiper Jr.  I always mix them up.

Edited May 2, 2020 by LightningDawg58

[Ovie_Lover]

6 minutes ago, LightningDawg58 said:

I did, just then. Relax

Lol ask a question and someone thinks they're being attacked. Weird world now.

[ATLFalcons11]

56 minutes ago, jlrfalcon said:

1 pick where the value of the player received clearly exceeded the value of the pick executed out of 6 is not exactly a great report card?

Rnd 1 Terrell - could be a great player but picked too soon

Rnd 2 Davidson - maybe value of pick=value of player (meets expectations)

Rnd 3 Hennessy - a great value where we picked him (above expectations)

Rnd 4 Walker - a good player perhaps but should have been our 2nd pick in rnd 4 or later 

Rnd 4 Hawkins - probably would have been around for our 7th round pick

Rnd 7 Hoftichter - would have been available as an UDFA, could have went this year with Allen and drafted a punter next year 

 

These are not judgments of these players' eventual value but their value on draft day - every year, TD could get greater value from our draft picks than he does but always ends up clearly wasting 1 or 2 picks or overdrafting 2 or 3 players.  At least this year he did not overtrade too many draft picks in order to draft some player he is obsessed with.

Simple question:

How do you know player A would have been available at a certain spot?

[FalconFanSince1969]

1 hour ago, jlrfalcon said:

1 pick where the value of the player received clearly exceeded the value of the pick executed out of 6 is not exactly a great report card?

Rnd 1 Terrell - could be a great player but picked too soon

Rnd 2 Davidson - maybe value of pick=value of player (meets expectations)

Rnd 3 Hennessy - a great value where we picked him (above expectations)

Rnd 4 Walker - a good player perhaps but should have been our 2nd pick in rnd 4 or later 

Rnd 4 Hawkins - probably would have been around for our 7th round pick

Rnd 7 Hoftichter - would have been available as an UDFA, could have went this year with Allen and drafted a punter next year 

 

These are not judgments of these players' eventual value but their value on draft day - every year, TD could get greater value from our draft picks than he does but always ends up clearly wasting 1 or 2 picks or overdrafting 2 or 3 players.  At least this year he did not overtrade too many draft picks in order to draft some player he is obsessed with.

Clearly you missed the part where Sean Payton, an NFL head coach and not a mock drafter, had an Terrell ranked HIGHER than where we took him. Just because your favorite mock draft site had a player ranked somewhere doesn't make it some kind of fact.

[LightningDawg58]

8 minutes ago, Ovie_Lover said:

Lol ask a question and someone thinks they're being attacked. Weird world now.

Passive aggressive much? Lol I fixed it 

Sorry if you felt attacked, Thanks for pointing out my mistake. Besties?

Edited May 2, 2020 by LightningDawg58

[Lethal]

1 hour ago, jlrfalcon said:

1 pick where the value of the player received clearly exceeded the value of the pick executed out of 6 is not exactly a great report card?

Rnd 1 Terrell - could be a great player but picked too soon

Rnd 2 Davidson - maybe value of pick=value of player (meets expectations)

Rnd 3 Hennessy - a great value where we picked him (above expectations)

Rnd 4 Walker - a good player perhaps but should have been our 2nd pick in rnd 4 or later 

Rnd 4 Hawkins - probably would have been around for our 7th round pick

Rnd 7 Hoftichter - would have been available as an UDFA, could have went this year with Allen and drafted a punter next year 

 

These are not judgments of these players' eventual value but their value on draft day - every year, TD could get greater value from our draft picks than he does but always ends up clearly wasting 1 or 2 picks or overdrafting 2 or 3 players.  At least this year he did not overtrade too many draft picks in order to draft some player he is obsessed with.

Just a reminder to everyone else here, jlr has no clue what the **** he is talking about and his lists are hilariously bad.

[falconfansince66]

1 hour ago, jlrfalcon said:

1 pick where the value of the player received clearly exceeded the value of the pick executed out of 6 is not exactly a great report card?

Rnd 1 Terrell - could be a great player but picked too soon

Rnd 2 Davidson - maybe value of pick=value of player (meets expectations)

Rnd 3 Hennessy - a great value where we picked him (above expectations)

Rnd 4 Walker - a good player perhaps but should have been our 2nd pick in rnd 4 or later 

Rnd 4 Hawkins - probably would have been around for our 7th round pick

Rnd 7 Hoftichter - would have been available as an UDFA, could have went this year with Allen and drafted a punter next year 

 

These are not judgments of these players' eventual value but their value on draft day - every year, TD could get greater value from our draft picks than he does but always ends up clearly wasting 1 or 2 picks or overdrafting 2 or 3 players.  At least this year he did not overtrade too many draft picks in order to draft some player he is obsessed with.

I love the Hoftrichter pick in Rnd 7 and this guy really has some 'BOOM' in his kicks and lots of hangtime.  If anyone recalls that when the Titans took down the Patriots in the playoffs, that Titan's punter (Bret Kern) was just killing it, pinning the Pats at the one yard line and pretty much keeping them pinned inside the 20 most of the game which did a lot to keep the Titans in the game.  I think Hoftrichter can do that for us. 

Edited May 2, 2020 by falconfansince66

[Fired Up]

3 minutes ago, falconfansince66 said:

I love the Hoftrichter pick in Rnd 7 and this guy really has some 'BOOM' in his kicks and lots of hangtime.  If anyone recalls that when the Titans took down the Patriots in the playoffs, that Titan's punter (Bret Kern) was just killing it, pinning the Pats at the one yard line and pretty much keeping them pinned inside the 20 most of the game which did a lot to keep the Titans in the game.  I think Hoftrichter can do that for us. 

If that's true it'll be amazing, we can only hope

[atljbo]

1 hour ago, jlrfalcon said:

1 pick where the value of the player received clearly exceeded the value of the pick executed out of 6 is not exactly a great report card?

Rnd 1 Terrell - could be a great player but picked too soon

Rnd 2 Davidson - maybe value of pick=value of player (meets expectations)

Rnd 3 Hennessy - a great value where we picked him (above expectations)

Rnd 4 Walker - a good player perhaps but should have been our 2nd pick in rnd 4 or later 

Rnd 4 Hawkins - probably would have been around for our 7th round pick

Rnd 7 Hoftichter - would have been available as an UDFA, could have went this year with Allen and drafted a punter next year 

 

These are not judgments of these players' eventual value but their value on draft day - every year, TD could get greater value from our draft picks than he does but always ends up clearly wasting 1 or 2 picks or overdrafting 2 or 3 players.  At least this year he did not overtrade too many draft picks in order to draft some player he is obsessed with.

My thing is I don't get  ppl saying he could have been gotten later.... To me Sean Payton talking about possibly trading up for him because he slipped pass his grade and the Raiders really liking him... The raiders picked a CB 3 picks later (a CB I also like but that 4.56 40 hurt) .. 

I have no idea what AJ Terrell will become... But it's clear teams was higher on him.... We will see tho.

 

And also a punter in the 7th round...  if dude is going to be a good starting Punter... 4 years cheap... I'm good with that... 9 times out of 10 thats a special teamer/ back up at the most....

 

 

[Dem Birds]

It's almost like Dimitroff has been doing this half his life and is one of the best in the league. That can't be though, I get the impression from people that he's a simpleton and couldn't run a Madden franchise. 

[RoddyWhite84]

4 hours ago, atljbo said:

 

 

 

 

 

It looks like Teams had Hen as the 2nd Center.

Hen Dawwwwggggg!!!

[UnrealfalcoN]

4 hours ago, ramonezy said:

Yep... Makes me wonder why so many on here wants him to lose his job. 

They think that some imaginary GM in their mind would have done a better job. And that's after using hindsight