Goober Pyle 6,165 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 https://www.thefalcoholic.com/2020/4/24/21234316/the-falcons-didnt-settle-for-a-j-terrell-they-prized-him Trust in this Falcons regime comes at a premium these days. That’s the natural result of two straight 7-9 seasons, one of which came with a bizarre guard-signing spree and cut/re-signing of Matt Bryant that the team insisted was part of the plan all along. Atlanta’s bad habit of yelling that everything is going according to plan even when the house is burning down has certainly dented the fanbase’s willingness to take their words at face value, and with good reason. That being said, in the case of A.J. Terrell they are transparently being honest about their desire to get the Clemson cornerback in the first round. The reported interest in moving for C.J. Henderson didn’t come to much, as we now know, and there are signals around the league that the Falcons knew exactly who would be there at #16 and exactly how much they wanted to draft him. Start with, of all people, Sean Payton. This is in addition to the very persistent rumors that the Raiders were interested in Terrell and would’ve scooped him with their second 1st round selection, had they had the opportunity. We were warned heading into this draft that teams had higher grades on some players than the draftnik community, and there’s mounting evidence Terrell was one of them. Had Atlanta not scooped him up at #16, they wouldn’t have had a chance to do so at #47. It’s not clear they could’ve even gotten back as far as the early 20s without lsoing him. Then there’s the evidence from the Falcons side. Had the Falcons not been locked into Terrell, they might’ve found an offer to trade down a few spots with the Eagles enticing, given how clearly desperate Philadelphia was to get ahead of the Cowboys for CeeDee Lamb. Atlanta didn’t budge. The most overblown criticism of this front office—especially considering all the legitimate criticisms of this front office—is that they reach for players who would be available picks or even rounds later. Last year, Chris Lindstrom was a Vikings target, and Keanu Neal almost certainly would not have made it to Atlanta in the 2nd round a few years back. We spend so much time reading mock drafts and listening to where analysts think these players should go that we forget NFL teams can have an entirely different idea, and in the case of Terrell, the Falcons could either grab him at #16 or risk losing him to the Raiders, Saints, and potentially other teams. Again, that’s not to say you have to love this pick, but the Falcons sure did. They got their man jidady, gazoo, Jumpin Jehosaphat and 10 others 12 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Snafu 6,077 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 (edited) That 2nd tweet is most interesting to me. Buy hey, if TD and DQ got their man, I'm happy for them. Wasnt our decision to make. Edited April 24 by Snafu Osiruz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sun Tzu 7 13,510 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 If Terrell was their guy why did they wait so long to pull the trigger? Other teams were picking as soon as their number came up but the Falcons waited until there were a couple of minutes left. Could mean nothing but a Quinn and TD have lost the benefit of the doubt... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AJisA-OK 329 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 No media spin there, just cold hard facts. Yesterday was like the best day 1 pick in falcon history Realsurfin 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NaGaBoy 778 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Just now, Sun Tzu 7 said: If Terrell was their guy why did they wait so long to pull the trigger? Other teams were picking as soon as their number came up but the Falcons waited until there were a couple of minutes left. Could mean nothing but a Quinn and TD have lost the benefit of the doubt... Maybe they were taking a call from another team who wanted to jump up to 16. Dukeduke211 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AJisA-OK 329 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 minute ago, Sun Tzu 7 said: If Terrell was their guy why did they wait so long to pull the trigger? Other teams were picking as soon as their number came up but the Falcons waited until there were a couple of minutes left. Could mean nothing but a Quinn and TD have lost the benefit of the doubt... God works in mysterious ways Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FentayeJones 22,512 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Just now, Sun Tzu 7 said: If Terrell was their guy why did they wait so long to pull the trigger? Other teams were picking as soon as their number came up but the Falcons waited until there were a couple of minutes left. Could mean nothing but a Quinn and TD have lost the benefit of the doubt... Thats your rationale for why Terrell wasnt their guy? lol Dukeduke211, The Real Tony G. and Ergo Proxy 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.11 7,661 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Not saying OP is wrong, but too many cats on here wanna be right and seem to be convinced they can do TD and company's job better than they can. It's all confirmation bias. There were several threads and many more posts all but confirming that a trade up was impending. Not only did that not happen, the pick wasn't what many here expected. Goober Pyle and Jumpin Jehosaphat 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Osiruz 9,738 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 I am more warmed up to him today after doing more research on him than yesterday, I'll admit. But fans need to expect that he will need some time to develop just like Oliver. Goober Pyle, JDaveG, Francis York Morgan and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goober Pyle 6,165 Posted April 24 Author Share Posted April 24 1 minute ago, Mr.11 said: Not saying OP is wrong, but too many cats on here wanna be right and seem to be convinced they can do TD and company's job better than they can. It's all confirmation bias. There were several threads and many more posts all but confirming that a trade up was impending. I didn't write it, my man. Just copied and pasted. I'm perfectly content to let the draft play out. jidady, hjerry, Jumpin Jehosaphat and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PriMeTiiMe 5,611 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 7 minutes ago, Sun Tzu 7 said: If Terrell was their guy why did they wait so long to pull the trigger? Bengals didn't take Burrow until about 3 minutes left on the timer. Skins didn't take Young until around the same. Does that mean those players weren't "their guy"? youngbloodz, hjerry, Skin doc and 5 others 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
youngbloodz 14,712 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 It’s almost like actual GMs know a little more than armchair GMs. Who would have thunk it Smiler11, Jumpin Jehosaphat, AutumnEffect and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FentayeJones 22,512 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 minute ago, PriMeTiiMe said: Bengals didn't take Burrow until about 3 minutes left on the timer. Skins didn't take Young until around the same. Does that mean those players weren't "their guy"? I wasnt following that logic either lol Falcon fan 4 ever 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NWFALCON 3,771 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 4 minutes ago, Osiruz said: I am more warmed up to him today after doing more research on him than yesterday, I'll admit. But fans need to expect that he will need some time to develop just like Oliver. Same. I looked at his numbers and they’re pretty good. When he got lazy or messed up, he did it royally but rarely. Osiruz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HEIST 5,236 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Fr you don't gotta like the pick, but he wasn't gonna be there if we traded back even 3 spots. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
youngbloodz 14,712 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 2 minutes ago, PriMeTiiMe said: Bengals didn't take Burrow until about 3 minutes left on the timer. Skins didn't take Young until around the same. Does that mean those players weren't "their guy"? They were considering trading down lol Ovie_Lover 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PriMeTiiMe 5,611 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 (edited) 1 minute ago, youngbloodz said: They were considering trading down lol Every team leaves that option open. Thus why every team waits towards the end of the timer. Edited April 24 by PriMeTiiMe youngbloodz and hjerry 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stizz 5,293 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 5 minutes ago, Osiruz said: I am more warmed up to him today after doing more research on him than yesterday, I'll admit. But fans need to expect that he will need some time to develop just like Oliver. The positives are that Whitt is one of the best secondary coaches in the league with a very proven track record. jidady, wnyfalconfan, Osiruz and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FentayeJones 22,512 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 3 minutes ago, youngbloodz said: They were considering trading down lol Yeah from the tweet in the OP, its sounds like they might have been on the phone with Philly youngbloodz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KRUNKuno 8,248 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 I don’t see a guy ready to start day one. He has talent, but he’s gonna go through heavy growing pains. Jamar Chase abused him heavily and he’s going to be playing against guys wayyy better really soon. Hopefully going up against Julio in practice helps, but he’s going to have to grow up quick and in a hurry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
youngbloodz 14,712 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 4 minutes ago, PriMeTiiMe said: Every team leaves that option open. Thus why every team waits towards the end of the timer. Well I don’t think I’m the Bengals case they were. They announced Joe on Wednesday. No way they would do that after not accepting the Dolphins trade Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jidady 8,381 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 By the updated value chart, this would indicate that Philly should have offered either the #103 and #146 picks or a swap of our #78 for their #53 to move up. And we passed on that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
youngbloodz 14,712 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 5 minutes ago, FentayeJones said: Yeah from the tweet in the OP, its sounds like they might have been on the phone with Philly Yep ATL was. Guess Philly didn’t offer enough. Other teams pretty much know what other teams are going to do Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falcons_Frenzy 3,498 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 13 minutes ago, Osiruz said: I am more warmed up to him today after doing more research on him than yesterday, I'll admit. But fans need to expect that he will need some time to develop just like Oliver. Welcome back to planet earth Osiruz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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