If We Didn’t Grab AJ

[Atl Falcon 3,767]

AJT could turn out to be a great pick....we’ll see. I understand why ppl don’t like the pick but who you taking?

[Stryka 1,805]

I think he was a consensus top 5 CB for most. You might see 5 or 6 CBs go in Round 1. 
 

I don’t think it was a bad pick but I would have rather a more talented player. AJ is a quality player but he has obvious flaws. 
 

We needed help bad at CB with barely 1 starter caliber guy. Oliver is fringe. If I had to pick another guy I liked Diggs ball skills and pedigree. Murray is a MLB or weak side same as Queen. I think we want an upgrade to Vondre’s mold. Might be forced to go Safety in 2nd 

 

 

[MilleniumFalcon 3,075]

I don't know, every mock I've seen had Terrell picked in the middle of the 2nd round. I think you could've trade back to the mid 20s and pick him up. I don't know much about him besides the fact he's from Atlanta.

[Akod2017 194]

36 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1969 said:

If you haven't noticed, nobody is trading back in this draft.

If you haven’t noticed, TD has never traded back in the first round. 

[ShmevinShmarris 3,047]

5 hours ago, MilleniumFalcon said:

I don't know, every mock I've seen had Terrell picked in the middle of the 2nd round. I think you could've trade back to the mid 20s and pick him up. I don't know much about him besides the fact he's from Atlanta.

There’s a reason these guys writing mocks are only writing mocks.

[jetpac 264]

Just now, ShmevinShmarris said:

There’s a reason these guys writing mocks are only writing mocks.

Ironically most those mocks were pretty spot on.

We reached. We reached real bad this time. Real bad.

[M@ck 113]

I’m not ecstatic about Terrell , but I am really glad we didn’t trade up for Henderson . Maybe we can move up in the second round to snag some front 7 help 

[Osiruz 10,079]

I would have rather traded up for CJ Henderson, who I think is way better. AJ Terrell is a project who will need to learn how to tackle, tackling has been a huge achilles heel for us. Pete Frisco and Bryant McFadden both thought it was a desperation pick from us. 

https://youtu.be/r7Wf-5K3-Bc

[PapaJoe 3,164]

8 hours ago, falconfansince66 said:

What was that 'farce' of a trade between TB and SF though?  Wished we'd jumped in front of that 'ish' and grabbed Kinlaw.

 

It was TampaBay making sure no other team  needing a LT traded with SF in order to get in front of TB to draft Wirfs

[1989Fan 15,164]

2 hours ago, jetpac said:

Ironically most those mocks were pretty spot on.

We reached. We reached real bad this time. Real bad.

The mocks were not spot on, especially outside top 10. 

[jetpac 264]

18 minutes ago, 1989Fan said:

The mocks were not spot on, especially outside top 10. 

They were pretty spot on within the top 10 and we picked 6 spots later. My point stands. This is particularly why I hate the whole trade down gather more picks theory. TD just isn’t good.

[jetpac 264]

1 hour ago, Osiruz said:

I would have rather traded up for CJ Henderson, who I think is way better. AJ Terrell is a project who will need to learn how to tackle, tackling has been a huge achilles heel for us. Pete Frisco and Bryant McFadden both thought it was a desperation pick from us. 

https://youtu.be/r7Wf-5K3-Bc

Seeing a theme here with these taller project CBs

 

Jalen Collins

Oliver 

[joeyg2033 345]

9 hours ago, ShmevinShmarris said:

Raiders, Jags, Eagles, Vikes x2..

 

all within ten picks of us and needed a corner desperately. You might view it as a reach at 16, but he’s definitely gone by 25 at the absolutely latest.

 

Filled a big hole with great talent. 

So we make a reach for 2nd round talent, fearful that some other team grabs him? 

In that case maybe we can draft a long snapper in the 2nd round because another team might need one. 

Beautiful... 

The length that some homer apologizers on this board go through to make excuses is absolutely breathtaking... 

[Osiruz 10,079]

22 minutes ago, jetpac said:

Seeing a theme here with these taller project CBs

 

Jalen Collins

Oliver 

Yepp except this was the wrong tall CB that we picked. I really hope Dunce Quinn doesn't destroy his confidence by playing him too soon as he is raw like sushi. He has the coverage ability of Alford, just as grabby as alford, but with the hands and tackling ability of Desmond trufant. 

[Roanoke Falcon 814]

9 hours ago, ShmevinShmarris said:

Raiders, Jags, Eagles, Vikes x2..

 

all within ten picks of us and needed a corner desperately. You might view it as a reach at 16, but he’s definitely gone by 25 at the absolutely latest.

 

Filled a big hole with great talent. 

There were several CB's better than AJ "Victory Road" Terrell. I don't hate the pick of a CB; I hate the pick of THIS CB.

[ShmevinShmarris 3,047]

3 minutes ago, Roanoke Falcon said:

There were several CB's better than AJ "Victory Road" Terrell. I don't hate the pick of a CB; I hate the pick of THIS CB.

He’s a long, rangy, athletic, instinctive corner. He was the 2nd best corner in this draft.

[1989Fan 15,164]

36 minutes ago, jetpac said:

They were pretty spot on within the top 10 and we picked 6 spots later. My point stands. This is particularly why I hate the whole trade down gather more picks theory. TD just isn’t good.

No the point doesn’t stand. They were relatively accurate up to pick 9-10...not being accurate after that doesn’t prove any point at all.

if there is a spot TD has done relatively well its scouting DBs.

[TNFalcon1 859]

36 minutes ago, jetpac said:

They were pretty spot on within the top 10 and we picked 6 spots later. My point stands. This is particularly why I hate the whole trade down gather more picks theory. TD just isn’t good.

Top 10 mocks are generally close because I would bet most teams big board are close to identical based on talent. Its not hard to look at that list and decide who is going where due to team need.

[ShmevinShmarris 3,047]

12 minutes ago, Osiruz said:

Yepp except this was the wrong tall CB that we picked. I really hope Dunce Quinn doesn't destroy his confidence by playing him too soon as he is raw like sushi. He has the coverage ability of Alford, just as grabby as alford, but with the hands and tackling ability of Desmond trufant. 

Dude played M2M while the rest of his team played zone. Yes he was going to get beat from time to time—he always going up against teams best receivers. 
 

Have you watched any Clemson games?

[Osiruz 10,079]

9 minutes ago, ShmevinShmarris said:

He’s a long, rangy, athletic, instinctive corner. He was the 2nd best corner in this draft.

On what planet? No offense but he cant hold CJ Henderson's jock strap. 

[Osiruz 10,079]

3 minutes ago, ShmevinShmarris said:

Dude played M2M while the rest of his team played zone. Yes he was going to get beat from time to time—he always going up against teams best receivers. 
 

Have you watched any Clemson games?

Sure he played some man to man against some underwhelming wrs. He got taken to the woodshed quite a bit, and his tackling is oh so bad. 

[wizatlanta 4]

Oh boy, another Clemson defensive player drafted in the first round by Atlanta...the only other one I can recall didn't work out so hot...

[Falcons_Frenzy 3,605]

9 hours ago, King Jigsaw said:

I’m not surprised by the pick at all. He’s someone the Falcons have been interested in, and there were reports earlier this week that no one should be surprised if he went in the first round because a lot of teams had higher grades on him than where he was mocked.

 

Of course, most people think that if he’s taken in the 2nd round by WalterFootball that it’s gospel he couldn’t possibly go in the first. I’m fine with the pick even if it’s not what I would have done. Talented player at a position of need, should be a really good fit.

Exactly. I don't get how people can cry about taking a player that fits a position of need. Last time I checked it was TD and DQ's draft board that mattered. Who cares where mock drafts had him going. The truth is those are wrong all the time. Even worse people are saying they rather have Love. Seriously!!!! People crying for the sake of crying. 

[kschreck 5,759]

3 hours ago, jetpac said:

Ironically most those mocks were pretty spot on.

We reached. We reached real bad this time. Real bad.

Whether or not we reached is more about how he was graded on NFL teams draft boards, not where he was going in mock drafts.  The reality is none of us know where other teams had him pegged.  May very well have been a reach, or may not have.  Either way, he a Falcon now.

[King Jigsaw 2,450]

2 hours ago, Falcons_Frenzy said:

Exactly. I don't get how people can cry about taking a player that fits a position of need. Last time I checked it was TD and DQ's draft board that mattered. Who cares where mock drafts had him going. The truth is those are wrong all the time. Even worse people are saying they rather have Love. Seriously!!!! People crying for the sake of crying. 

This happens every year, yet fans never learn the lesson because they’d rather complain about something than actually change their opinion on how things work. People take mock drafts for fact but even the most respected analysts get players too high or too low.

 

Literally every year there’s a head scratching pick or two that is graded poorly because that’s not where they were mocked to. Then that player performs for the team and is graded more favorably three years later. It’s almost like the GMs and coaches know more about what players they value more than anyone with a website or a job at CBS.