Kiper Rumor - Jags for CJ

[JAyOnEz 24]

Trade up for Derrick Brown or this draft is a bust.. we can trade with cardinals and snag him before Jax. Just think about our FA signings and our previous drafts. Why the **** would we continue to waste high draft picks on CBs.. I’m sure dan Quinn learned his lesson. D line makes CBs look good and not the other way around.. Derrick Brown has the strength and quick get off that we need to disrupt and move QBs out the pocket especially QBs like Brady and Brees.. you won’t beat them any other way. Don’t be stupid guys.. we will have Derrick Brown at the end of this draft and he will be the key piece we need for a SB run.. anybody else and we are looking at a worse defense than last year.. and no Kinlaw is nothing like Derrick Brown. It’s Super Bowl or bust.

[Romfal 11,737]

1 hour ago, HEIST said:

I've warmed up to CJ more. Perhaps because of the rumors, he really does have rare movement skills/closing speed along with prototypical size.

Yeah, I'm in the same boat, it's just that if the jags don't take him, I don't see who will until 16. All those teams have bigger needs than CB

[DonOfThemBirds 19,196]

Just now, Bunchy Carter said:

Miami Dolphins and 2011 Colts have entered the chat.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1364521-indianapolis-colts-andrew-luck-is-proof-that-tanking-works

 

The 2011 Colts were awful without Peyton though.

 

The Colts are not a good ran organization under Irsay.

 

Peyton was the deodorant for that franchise for a long time. They just went out at got Rivers just a year after paying Brissett around 15 mil a year last season.

 

Dolphins are rebuilding, but they didn't tank. They started winning games even though it was counter productive to tanking.

[ArthursMoustache 513]

6 minutes ago, Mister pudding said:

Why would the Jags trade out of a spot for a player they want? And if that's the case, I would do the same and keep our picks

Because they are stock piling picks for next year and Trevor Lawrence.

[HEIST 5,268]

1 minute ago, Romfal said:

Yeah, I'm in the same boat, it's just that if the jags don't take him, I don't see who will until 16. All those teams have bigger needs than CB

Raiders are big on CBs too

[DonOfThemBirds 19,196]

2 minutes ago, Romfal said:

Yeah, I'm in the same boat, it's just that if the jags don't take him, I don't see who will until 16. All those teams have bigger needs than CB

 

 

There are usually teams that come out of the woodworks to us fans only during the draft, where only true insiders actually know beforehand.

[Romfal 11,737]

Just now, HEIST said:

Raiders are big on CBs too

If they don't take Lamb/jeudy mayock should be fired. Carr has nobody to throw to

[ya_boi_j 67,688]

11 minutes ago, Ovie_Lover said:

It's ok when he does it. It's different.

That goes for quite a few  

[Dirtybird3 2,677]

2 hours ago, MD-FalconFan13 said:

*** SIGH ***

 

Sadly, this seems like a TD/Quinn player. He preaches "FAST AND PHYSICAL' but really only focuses on the fast part. 

Physical as in pi, he seems like he could be another Alford, but worse being we traded away other possible talent in draft pics to move up and get him.

But hey prove me wrong

[jfalconsp 2,720]

Again, getting on board with the player vs getting on board with giving up significant compensation and missing out on additional defensive help for a prospect are two different things. 

[g-dawg 43,522]

18 minutes ago, youngbloodz said:

Let’s not act like you don’t whine about players throughout the years during draft time. Please let’s not act like that

I don't whine about it once something becomes close to inevitable - look for the silver linings playbook.

[DonOfThemBirds 19,196]

Just now, Dirtybird3 said:

Physical as in pi, he seems like he could be another Alford, but worse being we traded away other possible talent in draft pics to move up and get him.

But hey prove me wrong

 

 

Revis, Sherman, Peterson, Rhodes, and many other good CBs are very physical. You can make a big case that plenty of their plays could've been called for potential pass interference.

[JAyOnEz 24]

You guys are crazy... look at all the teams trading there superstar “lockdown corner”.. having one is pointless in today’s NFL 

[DonOfThemBirds 19,196]

3 minutes ago, jfalconsp said:

Again, getting on board with the player vs getting on board with giving up significant compensation and missing out on additional defensive help for a prospect are two different things. 

 

 

But if you have a very strong feeling he is your guy, why not go get him?

[Cole World 6,179]

My guy

 

[youngbloodz 16,397]

4 minutes ago, g-dawg said:

I don't whine about it once something becomes close to inevitable - look for the silver linings playbook.

Did you see the Falcons drafting Lindstrom last year? Or Neal in 2016? Nothing is inevitable about TD and first round picks. 

[youngbloodz 16,397]

1 minute ago, Cole World said:

My guy

 

Maria Taylor is beautiful 

[g-dawg 43,522]

3 minutes ago, youngbloodz said:

Did you see the Falcons drafting Lindstrom last year? Or Neal in 2016? Nothing is inevitable about TD and first round picks. 

I saw both of those as possible but didn’t think 1st round - their was known interest for sure.

[DonOfThemBirds 19,196]

4 minutes ago, JAyOnEz said:

You guys are crazy... look at all the teams trading there superstar “lockdown corner”.. having one is pointless in today’s NFL 

 

Most of the time teams don't trade their lockdown corners for reasons outside of them not wanting to be there anymore or a stalemate in contract negotiations.

[g-dawg 43,522]

1 minute ago, DonOfThemBirds said:

 

Most of the time teams don't trade their lockdown corners for reasons outside of them not wanting to be there anymore or a stalemate in contract negotiations.

Yeah I don’t believe the Jags wanted to trade Jalen -but he was making a spectacle of himself about the contract stuff.  Didn’t the Jags get TWO 1sts for him!

Yeah I would say that’s valuable!

[jfalconsp 2,720]

1 minute ago, DonOfThemBirds said:

But if you have a very strong feeling he is your guy, why not go get him?

Generally I agree with you. But I feel like you have to look at team needs as a whole. If we give up a 2nd and a 3rd to move up, you're likely giving up at least 1 additional starter and 1 contributor on defense where we desperately need help. Unless he is a consensus game-changer prospect you are giving up significant compensation for, it doesn't make sense to me.

[Cole World 6,179]

14 minutes ago, Dirtybird3 said:

Physical as in pi, he seems like he could be another Alford, but worse being we traded away other possible talent in draft pics to move up and get him.

But hey prove me wrong

“The bold”

Now you are giving the front office credit. How does anyone know if they keep all their picks that the player they pick will turn out to be good?

I think they’re hovering around the 8-13 range to have minimal impact.

[DonOfThemBirds 19,196]

3 minutes ago, jfalconsp said:

Generally I agree with you. But I feel like you have to look at team needs as a whole. If we give up a 2nd and a 3rd to move up, you're likely giving up at least 1 additional starter and 1 contributor on defense where we desperately need help. Unless he is a consensus game-changer prospect you are giving up significant compensation for, it doesn't make sense to me.

 

I think the Falcons believe that they are closer to being contenders than most would think.

 

They were 6-2 the last half of the season once they started executing much better than they did the first half of the season.

[falconsd56 26,605]

2 hours ago, DonOfThemBirds said:

 

 

Why so many against CJ Henderson?

 

I thought he was the best pure coverage guy in the draft?

For me it is not about the player....it is about the position.

Corner is not the primary need to me.

If you are going to make a trade up it is for a position that is the primary need. Right now the primary need is DT or Linebacker.

We have no true Sam on the roster atm and if we start running more base 4-3 looks (like we did towards the end of last year) then we need a Sam.

 

[RHEC 4,069]

CJ Henderson will just be another bust Falcons player.