Spts1 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 I TOTALLY agree with what he is being rumored to be doing here. There is no tomorrow. He and Quinn are on thin ice with Blank. Ryan, Julio and the core don't have time to rebuild around draft prospects either. I predicted this move and its what they SHOULD do. For the problems the Falcons have, its still a talented roster that just needs a playmaker on the defensive side of the ball to pair with Fowler. Any of those top 3 defenders on the board would put that Falcons defense where it needs to be. You go totally in on this and make your Superbowl push now. If it means giving up the draft for that push, you do it... " Dutch, you out of your mind..." " We make our stand now or there will be nobody left to get the chopper.." JDaveG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Da choppahs!!!! Spts1, Cheyakita, niels petersen and 3 others 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjmw84 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 (edited) I would go for it because of the solid FA haul this offseason. We upgraded DE TE RB in the 1st wave of transactions. We will be in the market for another splash at a need position after June 1st. Logan Ryan A. Dennard Everson Griffen Markus Golden Edited April 21, 2020 by bigjmw84 Spts1, Atl Falcon and Since1990 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 "This stuff will make you a g** dam*** sexual Tyrannosaurus, just like me." ... RoddyWhite84 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAN_O_THE_ATL Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 I don't think TD & Dan have carte blanche on giving up the farm for one player. Part of Rich McKay's role is to prevent that. A trade up is ok as long as it doesn't sink the franchise beyond 2020. The Daywalker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunchy Carter Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, FAN_O_THE_ATL said: I don't think TD & Dan have carte blanche on giving up the farm for one player. Part of Rich McKay's role is to prevent that. A trade up is ok as long as it doesn't sink the franchise beyond 2020. I can't see any scenario where they trade up to a worthwhile spot WITHOUT sinking the franchise beyond 2020 Refried Beans 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjmw84 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 I dont even think a 2021 1st would sink the franchise. We would still have rounds 2-7 along with comp picks. If u think you can get the defensive equivalent of Julio ... do it Shelley#37, Boise Falcon Fan and Spts1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faithful Falcon Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Bunchy Carter said: I can't see any scenario where they trade up to a worthwhile spot WITHOUT sinking the franchise beyond 2020 If we can win it all, would it be worth it to you? Ovie_Lover 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since1990 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 2 hours ago, bigjmw84 said: I would go for it because of the solid FA haul this offseason. We upgraded DE TE RB in the 1st wave of transactions. We will be in the market for another splash at a need position after June 1st. Logan Ryan A. Dennard Everson Griffen Markus Golden This!!! Any of these dudes, especially Griffen or Golden would be perfect for us Atl Falcon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjmw84 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 The thought of having a front 4 of Fowler/Grady/Kinlaw/Griffen...:)Add Bryce Hall in the 2nd, and the secondary will look so much better. Kazee would be a pick machine again with all that added pressure up front. Atl Falcon, g-dawg, BigBird35 and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 53 minutes ago, bigjmw84 said: The thought of having a front 4 of Fowler/Grady/Kinlaw/Griffen...:)Add Bryce Hall in the 2nd, and the secondary will look so much better. Kazee would be a pick machine again with all that added pressure up front. Not if the can’t stop the run or cover the flats and the seams that front 4 will be rendered useless. ATLSlobberKnockers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atl Falcon Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 I’m hoping old spiky hair gets it right....I’m pulling for him and DQ. It’s time to go all in SB or bust. I just don’t have a lot of confidence in TD when it comes to building a defense and pass rush but he’s DUE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunchy Carter Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 10 hours ago, Faithful Falcon said: If we can win it all, would it be worth it to you? No question at all. Of course. If we cut Ryan, traded Julio for a 7th, fired TD and Quinn, but won it all... it'd be worth it to me. Spts1, Faithful Falcon, Dirtier Bird and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomass Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 13 hours ago, Spts1 said: I TOTALLY agree with what he is being rumored to be doing here. There is no tomorrow. He and Quinn are on thin ice with Blank. Ryan, Julio and the core don't have time to rebuild around draft prospects either. I predicted this move and its what they SHOULD do. For the problems the Falcons have, its still a talented roster that just needs a playmaker on the defensive side of the ball to pair with Fowler. Any of those top 3 defenders on the board would put that Falcons defense where it needs to be. You go totally in on this and make your Superbowl push now. If it means giving up the draft for that push, you do it... " Dutch, you out of your mind..." " We make our stand now or there will be nobody left to get the chopper.." I personally don’t want to mortgage the future for a cornerback, but hey that’s just me. Derrick Brown is a monster. I wouldn’t mind him. Spts1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtier Bird Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 17 minutes ago, Bunchy Carter said: No question at all. Of course. If we cut Ryan, traded Julio for a 7th, fired TD and Quinn, but won it all... it'd be worth it to me. We could trade all our picks for future picks with the teams below us. Our first for your next year's first and second. Our second for your next year's second and third. We do this for five years in a row and then we can trade up and take the whole first round. The first 32 picks in the 2025 draft belong to the Atlanta Falcons! We'd probably finish 6-10, going on a roll to win the final five games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlrfalcon Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 If the Falcons have a losing season and do not make the playoffs (even with the expanded # of teams), TD is GONE QUINN is GONE We have a new head coach/GM coming in that would at best need at least a year to adjust the team We would not be expected to be in the playoffs that first season under a new coach Ryan and Julio are considered trade bait for a high pick Mack, McKinley, Neal and Gurley are definitely gone We are likely looking like Carolina is looking now Would it really matter for 2021 whether we have that 2021 1st round pick? Cheyakita 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanadonis Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 With the 10th pick of the 2020 NFL draft, the Atlanta Falcons select.... CJ Henderson Corner Back, Florida.... #TDKNOWS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino11 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 I definitely see a full scale rebuild if this season tanks. Don’t know how soon you could move Ryan but I’m guessing it isn’t feasible until After 2021. I think Blank scrubs it clean. With that being said I agree, Quinn n TD have nothing to lose by swinging for the fences and trading up. They won’t be around to fill the effects if they fail anyway. Still makes me wonder would Blank allow it seeing as this year is make or break for both the GM and Head coach. Could set the next regime back Dirtier Bird, ArthursMoustache and Spts1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovie_Lover Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 14 hours ago, Faithful Falcon said: If we can win it all, would it be worth it to you? Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*TMo* Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 TD - pinnin' 'em ears back !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 34 minutes ago, Nino11 said: I definitely see a full scale rebuild if this season tanks. Don’t know how soon you could move Ryan but I’m guessing it isn’t feasible until After 2021. I think Blank scrubs it clean. With that being said I agree, Quinn n TD have nothing to lose by swinging for the fences and trading up. They won’t be around to fill the effects if they fail anyway. Still makes me wonder would Blank allow it seeing as this year is make or break for both the GM and Head coach. Could set the next regime back Blank wants to see a super bowl too and he's pretty advanced in age. I'm sure he's all for it as well. Go for it while you have your best shot with Ryan and Julio still here. Who knows how long it'll be before we find a QB after Ryan is gone. Spts1 and Nino11 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spts1 Posted April 21, 2020 Author Share Posted April 21, 2020 21 minutes ago, Nino11 said: I definitely see a full scale rebuild if this season tanks. Don’t know how soon you could move Ryan but I’m guessing it isn’t feasible until After 2021. I think Blank scrubs it clean. With that being said I agree, Quinn n TD have nothing to lose by swinging for the fences and trading up. They won’t be around to fill the effects if they fail anyway. Still makes me wonder would Blank allow it seeing as this year is make or break for both the GM and Head coach. Could set the next regime back Two things about people being hesitant about the Falcons trading the draft to move up: 1. If you have a losing season, you are rebuilding ANYWAY, regardless of what you do in the draft. A new coach and GM is gonna want to revamp the roster. 2. Who says you can't rebuild thru free agency? You may have to go cheap but at least you have a track record on a player instead of wondering if a player will pan out thru the draft... Nino11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spts1 Posted April 21, 2020 Author Share Posted April 21, 2020 1 minute ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: Blank wants to see a super bowl too and he's pretty advanced in age. I'm sure he's all for it as well. Go for it while you have your best shot with Ryan and Julio still here. Who knows how long it'll be before we find a QB after Ryan is gone. Exactly. I mean, it HAS been over 50 years and zero chips. You can use free agency to make up for lost draft picks. You don't have to look at a premium free agent either. I've always felt people put too much stock in the lower rounds of the draft. I rather have a free agent player that has shown me what he can do... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roguebeaver Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 16 hours ago, g-dawg said: Da choppahs!!!! Hold up, wait a minute..,they may end up with a 22! Knowing the birds... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 1 hour ago, jlrfalcon said: If the Falcons have a losing season and do not make the playoffs (even with the expanded # of teams), TD is GONE QUINN is GONE We have a new head coach/GM coming in that would at best need at least a year to adjust the team We would not be expected to be in the playoffs that first season under a new coach Ryan and Julio are considered trade bait for a high pick Mack, McKinley, Neal and Gurley are definitely gone We are likely looking like Carolina is looking now Would it really matter for 2021 whether we have that 2021 1st round pick? it really could unwind quick - julio and matt have contracts that won't make them tradeable next year - too much dead money - but the year after? Yeah, could happen. If this year goes bad, you are right - then next year is a rebuild year and I don't want a rebuild year w/o a 1st round pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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