g-dawg Posted April 15, 2020 Author Share Posted April 15, 2020 8 minutes ago, Matt_The Iceman_Ryan said: Good thread g-dawg... Now start mocking man!!!! I think its Simmons, Brown, Kinlaw of trade back...then its Murray, BPA at CB, or who knows at that point... I am going around to wait until next Tuesday to do a final mock. mocked out for now...my final mock is usually more my best guess what they will do as opposed to what I want them to do. Lots of leaks come out a few days before draft if major stuff brewing. I remember Peter King and Jay Glazer had the Falcons trading up for either A.J. Green or Julio back in 2011. capitan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted April 15, 2020 Author Share Posted April 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, FalconsIn2012 said: If we needed to move up to top 4, we should use Ridley as an asset to completely offset the cost in terms of draft capital. Trade Ridley and 16th to NYG for 3rd overall and additional 3rd round pick. Then draft Schenault Jr Have you seen the Falcons New Jerseys? they aren’t trading Ridley. FalconsIn2012 and capitan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis York Morgan Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 I think the highest likelihood guy to fall out of the top 5 and surprise folks is Okudah tbh. Simmons seems like a lock, and if reports are to be believed, half of NFL teams grade Henderson above Okudah. If he somehow made it to 7 or 8, I'd be all about that trade. Prefer just staying put and getting a safety tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, g-dawg said: Have you seen the Falcons New Jerseys? they aren’t trading Ridley. LOL... We also aren’t moving to top 4. But if we did, Ridley is a wise chess piece to utilize in an historically good WR class Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romfal Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 I think Simmons is a pipe dream but it seems more and more likely Okudah doesn't go before 7 to the Panthers and with the QB run likely to happen he might even drop to 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 25 minutes ago, Francis York Morgan said: I think the highest likelihood guy to fall out of the top 5 and surprise folks is Okudah tbh. Simmons seems like a lock, and if reports are to be believed, half of NFL teams grade Henderson above Okudah. If he somehow made it to 7 or 8, I'd be all about that trade. Prefer just staying put and getting a safety tho You never know...Gil Brandt has Okudah as his 13th ranked prospect in his “Hot 150” list for 2020. (Henderson #14) http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001109120/article/hot-150-gil-brandts-topranked-prospects-for-2020-nfl-draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilFuturesTrader19 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 I'd bet someone will fall that is not expected to. Just stay put. Mister pudding 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 1 hour ago, g-dawg said: I would probably do any of those trades for any of those players w/ exception of Henderson. I would sit at #16 and draft Henderson but I wouldn't trade up for him as he is the least difference maker of all those guys - really good but don't know if great. I agree. He’s the only one I just don’t get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HASHBROWN3 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 I can guarantee you this! We'll either move up, stay put, or move down! ' OilFuturesTrader19 and g-dawg 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted April 15, 2020 Author Share Posted April 15, 2020 7 minutes ago, HASHBROWN3 said: I can guarantee you this! We'll either move up, stay put, or move down! ' Nostradamus in ‘da house! capitan, Vandy and HASHBROWN3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HASHBROWN3 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 1 minute ago, g-dawg said: Nostradamus in ‘da house! He he Hey man, I'll tell you what. I absolutely love Kinlaw. But there is part of me that would still be quite pleased if we came away with Blacklock in the first as well. He is terrific right now & actually still has some upside! g-dawg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wjcorner Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 1 hour ago, FalconsIn2012 said: If we needed to move up to top 4, we should use Ridley as an asset to completely offset the cost in terms of draft capital. Trade Ridley and 16th to NYG for 3rd overall and additional 3rd round pick. Then draft Schenault Jr Ridley nice, but that would take him having an OBJ start to his career for a team to take that seriously. Even then, those 5 years you get for the low are a god send for teams picking in the top 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, Wjcorner said: Ridley nice, but that would take him having an OBJ start to his career for a team to take that seriously. Even then, those 5 years you get for the low are a god send for teams picking in the top 5. A proven, Pro Bowl caliber young receiver and 16th overall seems fair for 4th overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, FalconsIn2012 said: A proven, Pro Bowl caliber young receiver and 16th overall seems fair for 4th overall. IMO Giants wouldn’t go . Even if you gave him first round value it’s not enough...and that’s assuming NY thinks he is a true WR1. The chart points aren’t far off if you give him original draft slot value (26) but teams way overvalue these high picks on draft day, especially if there is a QB on the board. Throw in at least 47 or 2021 1st and they might talk back to you. i would say on the open trade market late 2 or 3rd is what you would get For CR...especially in a generational WR class. Vandy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wjcorner Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, FalconsIn2012 said: A proven, Pro Bowl caliber young receiver and 16th overall seems fair for 4th overall. You can’t say proven and follow it up with an accolade he has no proof of lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJisA-OK Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Should have fired him when they had the chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 2 hours ago, g-dawg said: Have you seen the Falcons New Jerseys? they aren’t trading Ridley. Lol good point g-dawg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 37 minutes ago, FalconsIn2012 said: A proven, Pro Bowl caliber young receiver and 16th overall seems fair for 4th overall. You’ve lost your mind, man lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lju713 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Romfal said: I think Simmons is a pipe dream but it seems more and more likely Okudah doesn't go before 7 to the Panthers and with the QB run likely to happen he might even drop to 9 That's what im thinking. I think Detroit will trade out of the top 10. The Giants will take Simmons or a OL. Then the QB,OL, and maybe a WR will push Okudah to 9. I think Jacksonville is the team we may need trade with. Carolina wants a CB too. But if Simmons or Brown are on the board at 7, they may pass on Henderson and Okudah. I think Okudah is the number 1 player on our board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted April 15, 2020 Author Share Posted April 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, lju713 said: That's what im thinking. I think Detroit will trade out of the top 10. The Giants will take Simmons or a OL. Then the QB,OL, and maybe a WR will push Okudah to 9. I think Jacksonville is the team we may need trade with. Carolina wants a CB too. But if Simmons or Brown are on the board at 7, they may pass on Henderson and Okudah. I think Okudah is the number 1 player on our board. Detroit traded away their #1 corner and there is an extremely highly rated one sitting their at #3 overall where the draft starts. If no one is moving up for Tua nor Herbert, then I don’t see anyone moving at all. Sometimes the most logical outcome actually happens. OKUDAH to Detroit at #3. RoddyWhite84 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoddyWhite84 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 54 minutes ago, g-dawg said: Detroit traded away their #1 corner and there is an extremely highly rated one sitting their at #3 overall where the draft starts. If no one is moving up for Tua nor Herbert, then I don’t see anyone moving at all. Sometimes the most logical outcome actually happens. OKUDAH to Detroit at #3. Agreed okudah is a pipe dream but I won't lie a big part of me wants the dream scenario..but Rivera recently said the only way they move the 2nd overall is for an impact player with whatever is traded so if what is said is true I'm not sure who the falcons could give up. g-dawg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 4 hours ago, 1989Fan said: You never know...Gil Brandt has Okudah as his 13th ranked prospect in his “Hot 150” list for 2020. (Henderson #14) http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001109120/article/hot-150-gil-brandts-topranked-prospects-for-2020-nfl-draft He also has K’Lavon Chaisson @17 man talking to some geniuses round here he’s a day 2 pick lol. Vandy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 1 minute ago, kiwifalcon said: He also has K’Lavon Chaisson @17 man talking to some geniuses round here he’s a day 2 pick lol. KLC should go top ~20. He is a great athlete and has potential. I have been outspoken that he isn’t the pick I am rooting for, but he is definitely a clear round 1 prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlrfalcon Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 You still cannot ignore the intangible human factor in this. This is why everyone does not go to the car dealership and pay the window sticker price. The Redskins really do not "need" Chase Young and would probably take a good offer for him. I agree it would take our 1st, 2nd and next year's 1st but that additional pick is really the bargaining point - maybe a 4th instead of a 3rd? I also really see TD and Quinn both seeing this as a must win pick that must start and produce its rookie season not a year from now. And, they really do not care about whether we have next year's 1st around or not. Young - expensive but 95% chance of success? Kinlaw - maybe a minor trade up but 75% chance of success? Chaisson - maybe at #16 but 60% chance of success? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, 1989Fan said: KLC should go top ~20. He is a great athlete and has potential. I have been outspoken that he isn’t the pick I am rooting for, but he is definitely a clear round 1 prospect. In saying that he has CJ Hendersen like you say @14 which I get with thee same athleticism.I really wonder how teams see either guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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