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We are trading him for Hayward of course 

I'm good with Okongwu.  Huge dude that plays great defense immediately.

Interesting stuff.  Drafting BPA.   Schlenk said the team’s virtual draft meetings are progressing, but the Hawks have yet to interview any player projected inside the top 10. It’s not

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8 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said:

He is definitely the backup PF/C.  This gives the Hawks a nice defensive trio with Collins, Capella & Okongwu.  It’s clear we will target a pure shooter in FA.  Rumor has it it’s Galinnari.

A top 7 of Young, Galinnari, Reddish, Hunter, Collins, Capela and Okongwu is legit.  
 

Celtics got an absolute steal in Nesmith.  Great move

You beat me to this.  I wanted Okongwu up in Boston.  We need a banger in the middle like him, badly.  Nesmith is a great pick because of his three level scoring ability.  Toronto figured out that if you press our wings, you could shut down our offense. Nesmith will provide that three level scoring to break those types of presses along with Tatum and Brown.

As far as the Hawks go, if yall get Galinnari, yes, thats a legit playoff team IF Okongwu and Capela come back from injury full strength.  I wanna see Young play more off the ball OR shoot less.  The Hawks have to get a offensive cohesion going so that their young players can continue to develop.  If he does that, the Hawks are gonna be in good shape...

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I seriously doubt Mays makes the 15 unless he can walk into the extremely shortened camp and instantly bang 50% from 3 for the entire camp. The only other thing that might change that is we have a crazy amount of open positions at the end of the bench.

Jones, Lab, Teague, Bembry, Carter, Brown, and Graham are all gone at this point.  Maybe we bring back Graham, maybe Teague if he is open to coming back. The rest I'm not sure about.  With the super short camp (season starting in 4 weeks?), it might be smart to bring back guys who already know our system rather than trying to bring in several new FA's who have to get up to speed in a matter of weeks.

Either way it looks like we're going to be ridiculously heavy in FA.  We have like $50-60M to spend still.

I expect a large chunk of that will go towards a 3pt specialist guard, and then a well known veteran 1-4 (doesn't really matter who, but probably a backup wing or maybe PG), and then a few more defensive floor runners that are really just expiring contracts designed to eat up cap space for a year so we can have $$ to lock down JC.

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6 hours ago, blkbigdog35 said:

What groomed talent has left and went and won rings?  Facts are usually required when we are speaking of honesty??? 

I guess Dennis Schroder is who he is referring to? He thinks he will go off and win a ring? Maybe he's looking at Jason Terry and Pau Gasol who we drafted, but that was what, 20 years ago?

Or maybe he's salty about the Luka trade still. Gonna be beating that dead horse from now until the end of time

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46 minutes ago, Beef said:

Makes no sense in an understood complete rebuild to make this statement.  It's just not accurate at all.

Not every player in a rebuild is a keeper. The 76ers didn't keep Nerlens Noel nor Jalil Okafor. Collins is obviously better than both them, but he's in line for a significant raise and might not be worth it. 

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30 minutes ago, Summerhill said:

Not every player in a rebuild is a keeper. The 76ers didn't keep Nerlens Noel nor Jalil Okafor. Collins is obviously better than both them, but he's in line for a significant raise and might not be worth it. 

Right, because 22/10 guys in their 3rd year, who have displayed marked improvement year over year just grow on trees. Probably will end up a 24/12 guy this year, too, per his trajectory. And, he just happens to be the absolute perfect fit with what Trae and the rest of our system does... and in a shortened practice camp only 4 weeks before the season starts.

And I guess TS is lying when he says one of their top priorities is locking down JC and they have no intention of breaking up this core?

Dude just use your head and some logic, is all I'm saying.  TS doesn't mince words and play subterfuge games to troll fans and the media. He's only ever said something and then done what he said.  No reason to start acting like that's suddenly changed.

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Just leaving this here for those who think we are trading Collins, much less for Hayward 🤣

 

Also, according to sources, Okongwu’s selection does not impact Collins’ future in any way, and Collins’ value to the franchise hasn’t changed. Both sides are interested in getting a deal done, but it’s still to be determined if they’ll be able to agree on financials before the start of the season. It should be noted that while there’s some belief that Okongwu could end up playing some minutes at the four, that won’t happen immediately.

 

 

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what do you think?

Starters:

PG - Trae Young

SG - Kevin Huerter

SF - Danilo Gallinari

PF - John Collins

C -  Clint Capela (defense)

 

Bench:

SF/SG - SuperSub - Cam Reddish (defense)

PG - Rajon Rondo (predicted signing) (better defender than Trae)

SF - DeAndre Hunter (defense)

C - Onyeka Okonwu (defense)

another signing - need one more scorer off the bench

 

We now have at least 4 good defenders and Gallinari isn't a liability on defense.   Bench is starting to look much better as well.   Need another Shooting Guard.   I know we have Skylar Mays but who knows if he will translate at next level.

We can mix & match offense w/ defense now to hopefully at least be an average defensive team.

What say you?

 

 

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I think with the get of Gallo & Kris Dunn, the BB/Rondo deal is likely out.

If Dunn can stay healthy, I’m much happier with what we got.

1/PG: Trae , Dunn, Goodwin

2/SG/Wing: Huerter, Reddish, Snell, Hunter

3/F/Wing: Gallinari, Hunter, Snell, Reddish

4/PF: Collins, Gallinari, Okongwu

5/C: Capela, Collins, Fernando, Okongwu

 

Thats likely the starting 5, and then you can see who might combo where and what some of our packages might be.

The depth looks stellar and the defense should have significant improvement.  Not only because of the additions, but because of natural improvement of our young players.  

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IMO, Gallo is the backup. We basically overpaid him to come be a backup. Who else is paying 20mil a year for a 32yr old shooter that is a defensive liability to start. 

PG: Trae  /  Dunn / Goodwin

SG: Huerter / Reddish / Mays

SF: Hunter / Reddish  / Snell

PF:  Collins / Gallo. / Fernando

C :  Capela  / Okongwu / 

 

Reddish will eventually take the starting SG, which gives each group a nice mix of shooting and defense. 

We have an All D lineup of Dunn/ Reddish/Hunter/Okongwu/Capela.

An All O lineup of Trae/Huerter/Reddish/Gallo/Collins. 

We still have 26 mil in cap space. 

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23 minutes ago, GEORGIAfan said:

IMO, Gallo is the backup. We basically overpaid him to come be a backup. Who else is paying 20mil a year for a 32yr old shooter that is a defensive liability to start. 

PG: Trae  /  Dunn / Goodwin

SG: Huerter / Reddish / Mays

SF: Hunter / Reddish  / Snell

PF:  Collins / Gallo. / Fernando

C :  Capela  / Okongwu / 

 

Reddish will eventually take the starting SG, which gives each group a nice mix of shooting and defense. 

We have an All D lineup of Dunn/ Reddish/Hunter/Okongwu/Capela.

An All O lineup of Trae/Huerter/Reddish/Gallo/Collins. 

We still have 26 mil in cap space. 

A guy with ~5 OWS and ~2 DWS that plays almost exclusively on the wing and outside the paint is a backup 4 with poor defense?

Whatevs.

SMH 🤦🏼‍♂️ 

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2 hours ago, Beef said:

A guy with ~5 OWS and ~2 DWS that plays almost exclusively on the wing and outside the paint is a backup 4 with poor defense?

Whatevs.

SMH 🤦🏼‍♂️ 

They won more games, so of course his OWS and DWS are going to be higher than our guys. We are building for the future around our young core.  He is the backup. He is 32. He isn't our future. 

He had one of the worse Defensive ratings on the team.

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9 hours ago, g-dawg said:

what do you think?

Starters:

PG - Trae Young

SG - Kevin Huerter

SF - Danilo Gallinari

PF - John Collins

C -  Clint Capela (defense)

 

Bench:

SF/SG - SuperSub - Cam Reddish (defense)

PG - Rajon Rondo (predicted signing) (better defender than Trae)

SF - DeAndre Hunter (defense)

C - Onyeka Okonwu (defense)

another signing - need one more scorer off the bench

 

We now have at least 4 good defenders and Gallinari isn't a liability on defense.   Bench is starting to look much better as well.   Need another Shooting Guard.   I know we have Skylar Mays but who knows if he will translate at next level.

We can mix & match offense w/ defense now to hopefully at least be an average defensive team.

What say you?

 

 

Put Cam over Huerter and you got something.

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