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If all of Kazee's plays are so "lucky" why is he the only one able to get them? This team hasn't been able to force a turnover to save their lives for years, so of course we'd take a liking to somebody that actually has the ability. Now, can he be upgraded? Absolutely. I'm sick of seeing blown TO opportunities only for the other team to end up scoring at the end of the drive.

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1 hour ago, cwell1 said:

If all of Kazee's plays are so "lucky" why is he the only one able to get them? This team hasn't been able to force a turnover to save their lives for years, so of course we'd take a liking to somebody that actually has the ability. Now, can he be upgraded? Absolutely. I'm sick of seeing blown TO opportunities only for the other team to end up scoring at the end of the drive.

Yall always say stuff like this. This is not what anybody is saying. When we say some of his INTs are luck, it has nothing to do with ability.

Exhibit A:

Kazee does nothing to impact the play. He just happens to be in the area to catch a deflection. If the ball is deflected any other direction, Kazee can't make the play. So yes it's a turnover, but it's a turnover based on luck, not Kazee actively making the play. If Jordan Richards was on the field, he'd make that same play and he's terrible. 

Compare the above, to this play:

This is Kazee making the play. That's all Kazee, reading and breaking on the throw and taking it away. No deflection. No luck. Just him making a play. But you also notice, it's a two deep looking. 

Here's another INT:

From a two high safety look. These are half field reads and it cuts down on the amount of processing he has to do and maximizes his limited range. 

This was Kazee in preseason 2018 when he first went back to FS:

That's what we need at FS. Kazee does not do this to any degree of consistency. 

Getting INTs off deflection are nice, but a matter of the ball bouncing the right way, not the guy who happens to catch it making a play. There are fewer plays of Kazee just breaking on a route and taking the ball away from a single high alignment than the other. 

Another example:

If Blidi Wreh doesn't deflect the pass, Kazee has no play to make. He's late getting over there. But because he catches a deflection, yall ignore him actually being late to do his job. He's over five yards away when the deflection is made. If that ball is deflected down or behind Blidi, Kazee has no play to make. But because the ball bounces the right way, Kazee makes the catch. 

Or is it this play:

A cross field throw from a RB? Come on. That's not impressive. It's him capitalizing on a stupid play from a player who shouldn't even be throwing a pass. Stop looking at the end result. INTs are nice. But how did they happen? It's like looking at Vic's sacks in a vacuum after 2016 and thinking he's a legit All Pro talent. Kazee isn't a bad player. He's severely miscast as a single high FS. 

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.....still why is he the only player to get them? Lol

we’ve went a whole season where both of our starting corners had zero ints a piece. Yet there’s this much effort to tear down a guy that’s only played safety for a year and some change? Weird

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6 minutes ago, kiwifalcon said:

@vel your making a very convincing argument for a FS and basically are describing what @Knight of God has been saying for years.

I mean what’s stopping the Falcons from going safety & corner in the first 2 rounds.Theres plenty of guys at corner who can be had in that 2nd round and good ones at that.

For years man. Safety isn't just some throw away position. Fans just think "Well at least we haven't allowed a 50 yard bomb". They're only looking at end results (i.e. ints), ignoring the process and context. If that's the case, Kazee was a better FS in 2018 than Earl Thomas because interceptions.... No context. 

All those plays I showed, are examples. Take the RPO one. I showed three examples of that play. The Falcons gave up a 16 yard play, Delpit forced an incompletion, and the Ravens got an interception. But because we didn't give up points, fans accept it. 

If they go CB and S with the first two picks, you'll see a massive upgrade in our defense. If they go CB, it won't matter. 

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One of the greatest fails on the MB is the lack of context. Seeing that an upgrade is needed, isn’t hate for a player. It’s not even dislike. 
 

Kazee is a back up. A good to great one, but a back up. Rico is a stop gap. A good to great one, but a stop gap.

To make this engine run, we need a threat at the safety position. @vel has shown exactly what is missing. This is probably the first time it’s been illustrated so well. Thanks dude.

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