Dirtybird56 5,266 Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 FalconsIn2012, bleedblackandred and NWFALCON 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francis York Morgan 24,668 Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Not a huge fan of Kazee but this guy saying he's a strong safety is off his rocker. Dude is just a backup with good hands. Serviceable in Cover 2. Was terrible at nickel. Glad the guy's at least getting at our safety issues though. jazzyburrell, Ergo Proxy, Cole World and 6 others 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cole World 5,796 Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Get this kid and move Allen to the slot. Stryka, mikeg272, PokerSteve and 10 others 13 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jazzyburrell 397 Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Why can’t we just admit the obvious: Rico is a better story than he is a FS. Y’all told me he would get us “lined-up” and he didn’t, Raheem Morris did! Kazee is not great, but he is our best current option at FS! Knight of God, OrthoPTSD, Spliff and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jazzyburrell 397 Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Cole World said: Get this kid and move Allen to the slot. I actually think Rico’s best fit for us Is Nickel! Edited April 5, 2020 by jazzyburrell Francis York Morgan, ShadyRef, Cole World and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hjerry 25,749 Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 28 minutes ago, Francis York Morgan said: Not a huge fan of Kazee but this guy saying he's a strong safety is off his rocker. Dude is just a backup with good hands. Serviceable in Cover 2. Was terrible at nickel. Glad the guy's at least getting at our safety issues though. He likes to hit. He loves contact, and loves to run in and make that hit It's the same reason so many wanted us to play Dunta Robinson at SS Cole World, falcons007, OrthoPTSD and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cole World 5,796 Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 32 minutes ago, Francis York Morgan said: Not a huge fan of Kazee but this guy saying he's a strong safety is off his rocker. Dude is just a backup with good hands. Serviceable in Cover 2. Was terrible at nickel. Glad the guy's at least getting at our safety issues though. Although he said he prefer to play corner he struggled at NCB last season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cole World 5,796 Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, hjerry said: He likes to hit. He loves contact, and loves to run in and make that hit It's the same reason so many wanted us to play Dunta Robinson at SS Yep falcons007, HASHBROWN3, Vandy and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vandy 38,889 Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, Cole World said: Yep That’s another thing with kazee though Cole...He does like to hit, but they often come with a dumb a$$ penalty. Yes? Cole World, blkbigdog35, jazzyburrell and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Iron-head falcon 20 Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 So I have a question does he have the athleticism to play the position? Or can he be coached? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ATLFalcons11 4,601 Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 10 minutes ago, Vandy said: That’s another thing with kazee though Cole...He does like to hit, but they often come with a dumb a$$ penalty. Yes? Idk about this one. I only remember maybe 2 hits that came with penalties. Neal and Rico were having issues with flags from what I recall. Could be wrong tho. Vandy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Iron-head falcon 20 Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, ATLFalcons11 said: Idk about this one. I only remember maybe 2 hits that came with penalties. Neal and Rico were having issues with flags from what I recall. Could be wrong tho. I can’t recall any last year. But the two years before there where a couple. ATLFalcons11 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vandy 38,889 Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 56 minutes ago, ATLFalcons11 said: Idk about this one. I only remember maybe 2 hits that came with penalties. Neal and Rico were having issues with flags from what I recall. Could be wrong tho. You’re right on Rico, who actually had a rough year overall. And Neal was awful before he got re-injured. When I bring up kazee, I’m speaking as to His penalties for late hits. There were a couple (although I may be confusing them in preseason rather than regular season?). He just needs to understand league Wont allow those type hits anymore. PokerSteve, ATLFalcons11, Knight of God and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ATLFalcons11 4,601 Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 17 minutes ago, Vandy said: You’re right on Rico, who actually had a rough year overall. And Neal was awful before he got re-injured. When I bring up kazee, I’m speaking to His penalties for late hits. There were a couple (although I may be confusing them in preseason rather than regular season?). He just needs to understand league Wont allow those type hits anymore. Yea I'm talking late hits too. I'll have to go back and watch but I didn't remember Kazee having a lot in the regular season. Preseason I don't remember as much. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CMarinoNFL 209 Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Need a true cover 1 and cover 3 FS for next year. Rico probably won't return, Keanu probably won't. Kazee might not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LightningDawg58 2,239 Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 The flags in general got cleaned up after a bad start to the season. Before the defense started to turn it around we had improved to less penalties but bleeding yards and big plays. I like Kazee better at free than nickel, but if he cant do either well then we may need keep it moving. Allen and Neal with Kazee as a backup only. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MSalmon 10,890 Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Dirtybird56 said: You could apply much of the same criticisms to Rico as well. His range is garbage. Better instincts? I’m not so sure about rico being great in that area we need a Delpit, McKinney or Winfield or even Ashyton Davis ASAP blkbigdog35, jazzyburrell, Da_Truth and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Knight of God 52,762 Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 I’ve been saying for years. It’s just time to cut crap ZoneOne01, Cole World, ATLSlobberKnockers and 8 others 11 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonOfThemBirds 17,460 Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 24 minutes ago, Knight of God said: I’ve been saying for years. It’s just time to cut crap Do you think Winfield may go quite a bit earlier than expected? I've heard reports that he has wowed many teams and scouts. Could he be a 1st round surprise pick for a team? FalconsIn2012, Cole World and Knight of God 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cole World 5,796 Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, DonOfThemBirds said: Do you think Winfield may go quite a bite early than expected? I've heard reports that he has wowed many teams and scouts. Could he be a 1st round surprise pick for a team. Don we are in a perfect position at 16 to get him. DonOfThemBirds 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lju713 1,188 Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 I'm hoping Dugger will slide into the 3rd. Heir apparent to Neal, then next season draft FS and CB. HASHBROWN3 and jazzyburrell 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hjerry 25,749 Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 30 minutes ago, MSalmon said: You could apply much of the same criticisms to Rico as well. His range is garbage. Better instincts? I’m not so sure about rico being great in that area we need a Delpit, McKinney or Winfield or even Ashyton Davis ASAP Allen is better at reading what's in front of him, while Kazee is better at playing what is happening right next to him. Neither have the athleticism to react quick enough Francis York Morgan, Clark Kent™, falcons007 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MSalmon 10,890 Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 12 minutes ago, hjerry said: Allen is better at reading what's in front of him, while Kazee is better at playing what is happening right next to him. Neither have the athleticism to react quick enough I can go with that. Allen is definitely smarter of the two. He has future NFL coaching traits. Kazee is a funky one to evaluate, even in college. He makes plays but he does boneheaded stuff and he does like athleticism. He’s almost a sub package guy that is depth type player in my opinion. I don’t mean this in a bad way btw Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MSalmon 10,890 Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 15 minutes ago, lju713 said: I'm hoping Dugger will slide into the 3rd. Heir apparent to Neal, then next season draft FS and CB. I’d take him in second without blinking an eye. Get Delpit/McKinney or Winfield in first and a Duggar or Chinn in second or third and that whole defense looks Sht ton better immediately Itll be interesting to see if Keke can return. He’s had back to back bad injuries and had trouble with his knees since his rookie year Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lju713 1,188 Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, MSalmon said: I’d take him in second without blinking an eye. Get Delpit/McKinney or Winfield in first and a Duggar or Chinn in second or third and that whole defense looks Sht ton better immediately Itll be interesting to see if Keke can return. He’s had back to back bad injuries and had trouble with his knees since his rookie year You think like me. Chinn could be our nickle backer next to Debo on 3rd down. KeKe could also play that role too. We are another pass rusher and playmaker in the secondary away from being a great D. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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