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Seems like rescuing dogs during lockdown is a thing around here. It happened to us this past week. This guy wandered up dirty and skinny, playing with my daughter in the front yard. After a few days o

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50 minutes ago, ya_boi_j said:

For $500k a year, you gotta learn to lie a little better sweet cheeks

 

Like she EVER cared about lying. 

The best way to tell that everyone is lying is when they get under oath. 

All of the sudden everything everyone else but the Trump’ettes were saying turns out to be true.  
 

Go Figure... 🤔

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And one more article, this time talking about the disinformation campaign on social media targeting Latino voters.  The “socialism” stuff got a lot of heavy play...

https://www.vox.com/recode/21574293/social-media-latino-voters-2020-election

One thing that should work in Biden’s (or more likely Harris’) favor in 2024 is that there will be a policy record and the whole “socialism” thing won’t carry as much weight.  It shouldn’t have carried much weight given Biden’s actual record with Obama, but the public has the memory of a gold fish.  

But it’s still something that Democrats are going to have to address and deal with given how reckless social media companies are.

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2 hours ago, Leon Troutsky said:

From the National Review, of all places...

And what we are seeing now, in the twilight of Trump’s kookery, is the merger of QAnon, the Republican Party, and the large part of the conservative movement that earns its bread by peddling miracle veggie pills to gullible elderly people on the radio. When I first starting writing about QAnon, some conservatives scoffed that it wasn’t a significant phenomenon, that it had no real influence on the Republican Party or conservative politics. That is obviously untrue. Rather than ask whether conspiracy kookery is relevant to Republican politics at this moment, it would be better to ask if there is anything else to Republican politics at this moment. And maybe there is, but not much.

This raises some uncomfortable questions for conservatives. One of those questions is: How long are we going to keep pretending that this madness isn’t madness? Another is: How long will we continue to pretend that what’s being broadcast by Fox News and talk radio is political commentary rather than the most shameful, irresponsible, and unpatriotic kind of sycophantic for-profit propaganda? A third is: What exactly is the benefit — for our ideas, and for the country — of making common cause with these lunatics and hucksters?

The answer the Trumpists used to give was: winning. But Trump didn’t win. He lost to Joe Biden, who hardly even bothered to campaign against him. He may very well end up costing Republicans control of the Senate. He has a better chance of being indicted on criminal charges and/or returning once more to bankruptcy court than he does of serving a second term as president.

Ronald Reagan spoke of “a time for choosing.” It’s that time again.

But only Mdra......I mean Mr Hoopah pays attention to QAnon

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I'm starting to look through the data on Latino votes and won't really have any real insight for awhile because we're still waiting on all of the votes to get counted.

However, holy **** Miami-Dade county is a disaster for Democrats...not just on the vote shares but the actual votes themselves.

Vote Share:

2016:  Clinton 63.2% || Trump: 33.8%

2020:  Biden: 53.4% || Trump: 46.1%

But look at the vote totals...

Democrats:  2016: 624,146 || 2020: 617,864

Republicans:  2016: 333,999 || 2020: 532,833

****!  Trump picked up almost 200,000 additional votes in that area while Dems stayed about the same (lost a few thousand).  

At least in this area, the leftwing argument does not make any sense.  Some Dems might have stayed home because of lack of enthusiasm.  But a ****load others showed up and voted for Trump in Miami-Dade.  They didn't vote for Trump because Biden wasn't progressive enough.  That's obviously driven in large part by the "SOCIALISM!" scary narrative from the GOP.

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On 11/10/2020 at 11:13 AM, Mr. Hoopah! said:

In the end though, I think my point is that (even though I've tagged her post numerous times), @marla_mulder will be technically correct that Trump isn't "having his personal lawyers steal the election." He never could, and they obviously have no valid legal arguments that are going to change things.  Again, these people had a press conference at a landscaping company with a registered sex offender and failed to properly file an appeal in Michigan the other day. Trump didn't send us his best and brightest.

Welp 

 

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1 hour ago, Leon Troutsky said:

And one more article, this time talking about the disinformation campaign on social media targeting Latino voters.  The “socialism” stuff got a lot of heavy play...

https://www.vox.com/recode/21574293/social-media-latino-voters-2020-election

One thing that should work in Biden’s (or more likely Harris’) favor in 2024 is that there will be a policy record and the whole “socialism” thing won’t carry as much weight.  It shouldn’t have carried much weight given Biden’s actual record with Obama, but the public has the memory of a gold fish.  

But it’s still something that Democrats are going to have to address and deal with given how reckless social media companies are.

Anything from a source that has less of a bias?

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IMO, Gallo is the backup. We basically overpaid him to come be a backup. Who else is paying 20mil a year for a 32yr old shooter that is a defensive liability to start. 

PG: Trae  /  Dunn / Goodwin

SG: Huerter / Reddish / Mays

SF: Hunter / Reddish  / Snell

PF:  Collins / Gallo. / Fernando

C :  Capela  / Okongwu / 

 

Reddish will eventually take the starting SG, which gives each group a nice mix of shooting and defense. 

We have an All D lineup of Dunn/ Reddish/Hunter/Okongwu/Capela.

An All O lineup of Trae/Huerter/Reddish/Gallo/Collins. 

We still have 26 mil in cap space. 

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2 hours ago, Leon Troutsky said:

An interesting breakdown of Latino voting patterns.  I thought the stuff about “LatinX” and the Goya controversy was really interesting.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/21/culture-wars-latinos-trump-438932

Et tu, Trout?  
Isn’t this analysis entirely based on Edison?

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Just now, duckettpleaze said:

Et tu, Trout?  
Isn’t this analysis entirely based on Edison?Isn’t this analysis entirely based on Edison?

It’s not based entirely on Edison.  It’s also based on the election results in border counties in TX and south FL.  I’m not convinced that nationally Trump did better this year because of issues with Edison’s exit poll.  But it’s undeniable that Trump got huge gains in south FL and border counties in TX.  

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10 minutes ago, duckettpleaze said:

Anything from a source that has less of a bias?

It’s being pretty widely reported, especially the comments of local officials and candidates.  I think there’s enough evidence to say that something went awry for Dems in particular parts of the country.  Trump even did better in hispanic communities in PA this year (again, actual results, not Edison).

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On outstanding question about Miami-Dade is how many mail-in ballots were not delivered on time to be counted?  I read one report where it could have been around 150,000 in Miami-Dade alone that were held up until past the deadline.  If that’s true, then the “damage” doesn’t look as great.  I’m hoping at some point we can get a definitive answer to that.  

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5 minutes ago, Leon Troutsky said:

How much of this do people need to see before they come to the realization that this is an openly authoritarian power grab?  His lawyers are literally saying it in a court of law.

It’s pretty clear nothing they do is going to give his supporters pause. wfw even accepted the results of the election, but this week his rhetoric changed to support this stuff. If you ever want to informally gauge which way the boot licking tongues are waving, just look to his gross old tongue. He’s a classic opportunist. 

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1 hour ago, GEORGIAfan said:

Gallo and Dunn is a nice offseason. 

 

 

20 minutes ago, GEORGIAfan said:

IMO, Gallo is the backup. We basically overpaid him to come be a backup. Who else is paying 20mil a year for a 32yr old shooter that is a defensive liability to start. 

PG: Trae  /  Dunn / Goodwin

SG: Huerter / Reddish / Mays

SF: Hunter / Reddish  / Snell

PF:  Collins / Gallo. / Fernando

C :  Capela  / Okongwu / 

 

Reddish will eventually take the starting SG, which gives each group a nice mix of shooting and defense. 

We have an All D lineup of Dunn/ Reddish/Hunter/Okongwu/Capela.

An All O lineup of Trae/Huerter/Reddish/Gallo/Collins. 

We still have 26 mil in cap space. 

It’s a great off-season, and Gallo is definitely the back up. And, he’s really not all that overpaid either, when you look at some of the contracts out there and how versatile a scorer he is. He will be an easily movable contract if we need to in a year or two (as will be Capela), and despite everyone freaking out, it in no way means we need to move John Collins.

Now, Gallo, who is getting older, can save his body a bit more, and give us a huge offensive weapon off the bench. And, there’s plenty of various lineups we could run with him and the starters, and he may finish a number of games.

Our bench now looks so much stronger, as does our starting lineup. And I suspect there’s at least one more decent size move left before the off-season is over. Love what we’ve done.

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