The James Caan Appreciation Thread

[thofin21 3,027]

16 minutes ago, Sn4ttBack said:

                                                                                                     

                                                  

 

[Corn Pop 4,299]

7 minutes ago, The Monarch said:

I agree those are probably the main issues driving those movements, but not necessarily the only ones. And yes, of course we should address those issues foremost, preferably with aggressive left/socialist policies, for myriad reasons. But if we wait on those policy fixes (which we both know are little more than a hopeful dream at this point) to fix the movements, we'll soon find the movements make those policies even more unlikely to be adopted.

It's a stupid ******* conundrum and there is no easy answer. We're not going to fix decades of societal and economic decline anytime soon, given the massive roadblocks from both major parties, and we still need to address the very real threat of right-wing fascist movements. Not sure what to do other than to say I fully agree we don't need new surveillance/counter-terrorism/policing laws.

[Jdrizzle 45,079]

Feels like people are trying to box folks into an either/or stance when a more nuanced opinion is being expressed.

[WOR 24,185]

No ones posted the Terry Fontenot stuff this morning?

 

Slackers 

[Mr. Hoopah! 79,423]

6 minutes ago, Corn Pop said:

Saban has built a recruiting operation unlike anything anyone's ever seen with the resources he's been given in a state and university where college football is the unquestioned number one priority, but if I need to bring someone in to turn a random program or team around and establish a culture I'd probably go with Urban.

Urban is no doubt a great coach, but he’s a dirt bag who has quit on multiple programs while blaming his health, only to come back a few years later every time. 

I don’t doubt for a second Alabama gives Saban more money and resources than Florida and OSU, but they are no slouches on spending and are both in recruiting hot beds. Saban’s sustained success has made nearly everyone, Bama fans most of all, forgot what poor shape that program was in when he took over. They were pathetic when I was at Auburn. 

[The Monarch 10,693]

2 minutes ago, Jdrizzle said:

Feels like people are trying to box folks into an either/or stance when a more nuanced opinion is being expressed.

Nuance schmuance.

[Mr. Hoopah! 79,423]

7 minutes ago, WOR said:

No ones posted the Terry Fontenot stuff this morning?

 

Slackers 

He and Rick Smith were my top choices. Like several here have pointed out, the Saints always seem headed for cap **** and then magically get out of it. Will absolutely welcome that, not to mention they have had some incredible drafts the past several years. 

[Corn Pop 4,299]

10 minutes ago, Mr. Hoopah! said:

Urban is no doubt a great coach, but he’s a dirt bag who has quit on multiple programs while blaming his health, only to come back a few years later every time. 

I don’t doubt for a second Alabama gives Saban more money and resources than Florida and OSU, but they are no slouches on spending and are both in recruiting hot beds. Saban’s sustained success has made nearly everyone, Bama fans most of all, forgot what poor shape that program was in when he took over. They were pathetic when I was at Auburn. 

Urban has been an immediate success everywhere he's been. He turned around Bowling Green and Utah, of all places.

Saban was pretty mediocre at Michigan State and he did turn LSU around but when I checked his record just now (8–4, 10–3, 8–5, 13–1, 9–3 in five years) I was kinda surprised because I thought he would've averaged fewer losses.

Saban's main thing is recruiting and Urban's is organization so I think Urban may be better suited for the NFL.

 

[The Monarch 10,693]

11 minutes ago, Corn Pop said:

 

I vacillate between hopelessness and unwarranted optimism. But honestly, without my kids there's a good chance i would have mustered the constitution by now.

[Corn Pop 4,299]

Urban also had power struggles with the administration at Florida and OSU that led to him quitting and blaming his health, whereas at Alabama there's no question who the most powerful man in the state is.

[Jdrizzle 45,079]

 

[Corn Pop 4,299]

1 minute ago, The Monarch said:

 

I vacillate between hopelessness and unwarranted optimism. But honestly, without my kids there's a good chance i would have mustered the constitution by now.

Numbing the pain with hedonism helps.

 

 

[Gritzblitz 2.0 25,968]

I have no idea what Nick Saban's politics are, but I would pay anything to see him run against Tuberville in six years. 

[Corn Pop 4,299]

 

[Corn Pop 4,299]

29 minutes ago, Jdrizzle said:

Feels like people are trying to box folks into an either/or stance when a more nuanced opinion is being expressed.

We should come together as a community and decide which is funnier:

Susan Collins, who sits on the Senate Intelligence Committee, stating that her first thought was that the Iranians had followed through on their threat to strike the Capitol

or @HolyMoses believing that North Korea had launched an attack on his neighborhood

[Sun Tzu 7 13,805]

1 hour ago, Corn Pop said:

I think going around the internet and trying to play whack a mole with wherever the right-wing fringe finds a place to congregate is a losing proposition.

I think the time would be better spent addressing the societal conditions that make these fringe groups seem appealing to growing numbers of people. Like to me Qanon is a symptom, not the disease.

I can’t remember if it was here or somewhere else, but last year I remember reading an article or study about how Q appeals to people who can’t make sense of the modern world. They’ve been fed lies about American exceptionalism and the American dream their whole life, such that when they see a society heading in a clear downward trajectory like our’s has been for the last 40 years, it doesn’t occur to them to do stuff like question our economic system and instead they reach for conspiracy theories to try to explain a country where we’re birthing generations who have a lower standard of living than their parents and the life expectancy of non college educated white males is in decline.

There have always been conspiracy theorists and anti-government elements in the country.

The difference is up until about 20 years ago you only knew about them if you were in physical proximity to them or the news did a story about them.

Now thanks to the internet those people are able to communicate with each other and organize in ways they never could.  Remember Ruby Ridge? What would that have been like now with the internet, twitter, face-book, and live streaming?

The issue is that in capitalism you have to have the haves and have nots. If everyone is rich then no one is going to pick up the garbage or clean up ****.

The problem is that even in communism and socialism you are still going to have the haves and have nots.... In the case of communism they're just in the military and government.

The thing about Qanon that makes it so dangerous is that it has changed so that instead of just 'Q' it allows for all kinds of conspiracy theories. One of the major issues is that, like dealing with someone who is schizophrenic, they are not necessarily thinking logically.

You have a point about people not being able to adjust to the changes in society brought on by advances in technology or unforeseen things like a pandemic.

My Qanon experience is with a doctor. She's very smart. Went to med-school. The American dream for success, right?

Well she's a natural path. When Covid started she started with the Anti-vaxx stuff which basically dominoed  into Qanon. But her vocal position on vaccines and COVID lead people to stop coming to her practice and attacking her on social media. She had also built a house with the idea that the casita would generate income to help them pay the mortage. After COVID tourism dried up.... her practice dwindled... and I get it. She did everything right. She went to med school. It should be the American dream and roadmap to riches, right? Nope. Even if you are a doctor or a lawyer it's like everything else... except your debt coming out of the starting gate is much worse.

 

[droopy1592 7,319]

18 minutes ago, Jdrizzle said:

 

That’s actually 405 lbs 

[Corn Pop 4,299]

6 minutes ago, Sun Tzu 7 said:

There have always been conspiracy theorists and anti-government elements in the country.

The difference is up until about 20 years ago you only knew about them if you were in physical proximity to them or the news did a story about them.

Now thanks to the internet those people are able to communicate with each other and organize in ways they never could.  Remember Ruby Ridge? What would that have been like now with the internet, twitter, face-book, and live streaming?

The issue is that in capitalism you have to have the haves and have nots. If everyone is rich then no one is going to pick up the garbage or clean up ****.

The problem is that even in communism and socialism you are still going to have the haves and have nots.... In the case of communism they're just in the military and government.

The thing about Qanon that makes it so dangerous is that it has changed so that instead of just 'Q' it allows for all kinds of conspiracy theories. One of the major issues is that, like dealing with someone who is schizophrenic, they are not necessarily thinking logically.

You have a point about people not being able to adjust to the changes in society brought on by advances in technology or unforeseen things like a pandemic.

My Qanon experience is with a doctor. She's very smart. Went to med-school. The American dream for success, right?

Well she's a natural path. When Covid started she started with the Anti-vaxx stuff which basically dominoed  into Qanon. But her vocal position on vaccines and COVID lead people to stop coming to her practice and attacking her on social media. She had also built a house with the idea that the casita would generate income to help them pay the mortage. After COVID tourism dried up.... her practice dwindled... and I get it. She did everything right. She went to med school. It should be the American dream and roadmap to riches, right? Nope. Even if you are a doctor or a lawyer it's like everything else... except your debt coming out of the starting gate is much worse.

 

Ruby Ridge probably wouldn't go over too well in the internet age given that federal agents tried really hard to entrap Randy Weaver before they murdered his boy, his dog, and his wife, while holding their infant child.

But egging people on and entrapping them is a big part of the job description for a lot of largely useless alphabet boys. That's another reason why it's important that we don't grant any more power and authority to law enforcement, intelligence & surveillance agencies.

[Sn4ttBack 3,740]

19 minutes ago, Corn Pop said:

Numbing the pain with hedonism helps.

 

 

That hair cut is hedonistic

[Mr. Hoopah! 79,423]

18 minutes ago, Gritzblitz 2.0 said:

I have no idea what Nick Saban's politics are, but I would pay anything to see him run against Tuberville in six years. 

I can’t see him having the patience for politics, even though he could probably be president. I think he and Ms. Terri will just ride around in the pontoon boat listening to the Beatles when he finally hangs it up. 

[Corn Pop 4,299]

1 minute ago, Mr. Hoopah! said:

I can’t see him having the patience for politics, even though he could probably be president. I think he and Ms. Terri will just ride around in the pontoon boat listening to the Beatles when he finally hangs it up. 

He could drop dead like the Bear because his life will no longer have any purpose.

[Corn Pop 4,299]

Alright I'm going to lunch.

 

Throw Away >>> Hurt

 

[Gritzblitz 2.0 25,968]

8 minutes ago, Corn Pop said:

Ruby Ridge probably wouldn't go over too well in the internet age given that federal agents tried really hard to entrap RandyWeaver before they killed his boy, his dog, and his wife, while holding their infant child.

But egging people on and entrapping them is a big part of the job description for a lot of largely useless alphabet boys. That's another reason why it's important that we don't grant any more power and authority to law enforcement, intelligence & surveillance agencies.

Same with Waco. 25 children being burned alive just because the Feds tried to make religious separatists into something they weren't would not have gone over well at all. 

In fact it was the fabrication of threats at Waco and Ruby Ridge that inspired a very real domestic terrorist to blow a federal building in half and kill 168 people. 

[Mr. Hoopah! 79,423]

[lostone 17,669]

16 minutes ago, droopy1592 said:

That’s actually 405 lbs 

Those are 55lb dumbbells they are red.  It’s 485