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2 minutes ago, thofin21 said:

I for one would like to see Trout vs Corn Pop fight  it out in a Waffle house parking lot.Trial by combat is the only thing that makes sense. 

It would be a tag team with PG and myself.  It would be tight until Trout tagged me and I start pummeling CP while he flails to tag the absent Psychic Gibbons.

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4 minutes ago, thofin21 said:

I for one would like to see Trout vs Corn Pop fight  it out in a Waffle house parking lot.Trial by combat is the only thing that makes sense. 

I’d settle for Corn Pop explaining why he supports the Venezuela dictatorship (Maduro) and why Durbin is bad for wanting to support the pro-democracy opposition (Guaido).  

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Also, sorry, but nazis in Camp Auschwitz hoodies and waving the confederate flag inside the Capitol that had plans to kidnap and/or execute members of Congress aren’t victims of the liberal agenda, they absolutely are a big deal, and the incoming Biden administration, which will no doubt be terrible in innumerable ways, does not excuse/minimize 1/6 and what’s been threatened for next week. Had they succeeded in violently overthrowing our government, we would be further away, not closer, to a democratic socialist utopia. 

We’re never going to agree on those things, so best to say my peace and move on. 

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6 minutes ago, HolyMoses said:

It would be a tag team with PG and myself.  It would be tight until Trout tagged me and I start pummeling CP while he flails to tag the absent Psychic Gibbons.

 

On 1/6/2021 at 2:54 PM, Corn Pop said:

We all here mostly agreed to view ABF as a sitcom. I always thought we worked better as a professional wrestling organization. Forming a tag team with JDave to go against you and Trout would be a great storyline, but I don’t think he’s up for it :(

It seems like the story angle where I team up with JDave may work after all:

 

On 1/4/2021 at 9:49 AM, Leon Troutsky said:

A lot of people in this country are supporting open authoritarianism because of abortion and guns.  There should be some things that transcend policy.  But unfortunately, there’s not for a lot of people

 

On 1/7/2021 at 10:04 AM, Leon Troutsky said:

 

This should be unforgivable.  Unfortunately, some people value things like abortion policy and guns and judicial nominees more than our Constitution. 

 

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1 minute ago, Mr. Hoopah! said:

Also, sorry, but nazis in Camp Auschwitz hoodies and waving the confederate flag inside the Capitol that had plans to kidnap and/or execute members of Congress aren’t victims of the liberal agenda, they absolutely are a big deal, and the incoming Biden administration, which will no doubt be terrible in innumerable ways, does not excuse/minimize 1/6 and what’s been threatened for next week. Had they succeeded in violently overthrowing our government, we would be further away, not closer, to a democratic socialist utopia. 

We’re never going to agree on those things, so best to say my peace and move on. 

I don't have parents on Facebook or friends who believe in Q so none of it's personal for me and my main priority is making sure state and corporate power isn't inflicted on my leftist allies.

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1 hour ago, Corn Pop said:

I think going around the internet and trying to play whack a mole with wherever the right-wing fringe finds a place to congregate is a losing proposition.

I think the time would be better spent addressing the societal conditions that make these fringe groups seem appealing to growing numbers of people. Like to me Qanon is a symptom, not the disease.

 

 

The bolded we need to do because it is the humane and equitable thing to do, generally. If that alleviates the problem of Qanon and the gathering momentum of the white supremacist movement, great, but I'm not assuming that is the only thing driving those movements, nor should they be the reason for doing the right thing. We should just work to make the world better for people, just because we should.

And, generally, you treat the symptoms as well as the disease when you want to heal someone.  I think we can treat the symptoms here without broad new laws that increase the police state and, indeed, white supremacy/right-wing violence in the police state is a huge part of the problem. But I also don't think we can ignore the symptoms thinking it is enough to focus on the disease because the symptoms, you know, can kill the host.

 

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2 minutes ago, The Monarch said:

 

The bolded we need to do because it is the humane and equitable thing to do, generally. If that alleviates the problem of Qanon and the gathering momentum of the white supremacist movement, great, but I'm not assuming that is the only thing driving those movements, nor should they be the reason for doing the right thing. We should just work to make the world better for people, just because we should.

And, generally, you treat the symptoms as well as the disease when you want to heal someone.  I think we can treat the symptoms here without broad new laws that increase the police state and, indeed, white supremacy/right-wing violence in the police state is a huge part of the problem. But I also don't think we can ignore the symptoms thinking it is enough to focus on the disease because the symptoms, you know, can kill the host.

 

I don't think we need any new laws, and I believe the main issues driving these movements are societal & economic decline coupled with changing demographics like I've talked about with America transitioning to a majority-minority population leading to further fears of loss of status and influence.

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5 minutes ago, Corn Pop said:

I don't think we need any new laws, and I believe the main issues driving these movements are societal & economic decline coupled with changing demographics like I've talked about with America transitioning to a majority-minority population leading to further fears of loss of status and influence.

On the other hand there were business owners flying in for that ****.  I'm not sure they fall under the umbrella of economic anxiety.

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22 minutes ago, Mr. Hoopah! said:

Also, sorry, but nazis in Camp Auschwitz hoodies and waving the confederate flag inside the Capitol that had plans to kidnap and/or execute members of Congress aren’t victims of the liberal agenda, they absolutely are a big deal, and the incoming Biden administration, which will no doubt be terrible in innumerable ways, does not excuse/minimize 1/6 and what’s been threatened for next week. Had they succeeded in violently overthrowing our government, we would be further away, not closer, to a democratic socialist utopia. 

We’re never going to agree on those things, so best to say my peace and move on. 

Let's think about that statement for a second... and realize you are not a fictional writer and that actually happened.

It's amazing to me this is even a discussion.... Domestic terrorists, right? It's that simple.

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5 minutes ago, Corn Pop said:

I don't think we need any new laws, and I believe the main issues driving these movements are societal & economic decline coupled with changing demographics like I've talked about with America transitioning to a majority-minority population leading to further fears of loss of status and influence.

I agree those are probably the main issues driving those movements, but not necessarily the only ones. And yes, of course we should address those issues foremost, preferably with aggressive left/socialist policies, for myriad reasons. But if we wait on those policy fixes (which we both know are little more than a hopeful dream at this point) to fix the movements, we'll soon find the movements make those policies even more unlikely to be adopted.

It's a stupid ******* conundrum and there is no easy answer. We're not going to fix decades of societal and economic decline anytime soon, given the massive roadblocks from both major parties, and we still need to address the very real threat of right-wing fascist movements. Not sure what to do other than to say I fully agree we don't need new surveillance/counter-terrorism/policing laws.

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8 minutes ago, Mr. Hoopah! said:

wat 

Saban has built a recruiting operation unlike anything anyone's ever seen with the resources he's been given in a state and university where college football is the unquestioned number one priority, but if I need to bring someone in to turn a random program or team around and establish a culture I'd probably go with Urban.

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