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To those who hope that Dimitroff will trade-down in the first-round

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2 minutes ago, athell said:

Thanks for reminding me we traded UP for Baker and Takk...

 

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The trade up for Baker was actually a stroke of genius on TD's part

He traded 2 seconds and a 4th and got a 1st, 3rd and 5th round pick.

He just could not stay healthy.

 

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Just now, falconsd56 said:

The trade up for Baker was actually a stroke of genius on TD's part

He traded 2 seconds and a 4th and got a 1st, 3rd and 5th round pick.

He just could not stay healthy.

 

Yup, which is how I'm judging it.  Huge potential never realized.

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2 minutes ago, falconsd56 said:

The trade up for Baker was actually a stroke of genius on TD's part

He traded 2 seconds and a 4th and got a 1st, 3rd and 5th round pick.

He just could not stay healthy.

 

Was actually a decent LT too before his back went out

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Here is another thing to consider.

We have talked a lot bout the potential comp picks that we should get next year... as it sits now we are set to get 3.

TD  may look at that and  use some of our regular picks  as  trade chips if he truly wants to  go up and get a guy.

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1 hour ago, g-dawg said:

No.  Lamar Holmes - same Draft.

moved down in 3rd round.   Horrible.

Yep, the Falcons moved down seven picks in the 3rd-round to get Puddin, then they selected Jonathon Massequoi with the added 5th-round pick from that trade-down.

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Just now, theProf said:

Yep, the Falcons moved down seven picks in the 3rd-round to get Puddin, then they selected Jonathon Massequoi with the added 5th-round pick from that trade-down.

Dimitroff would have been better off calling in sick to that draft and letting a monkey throw darts at a board to pick players in 2012.

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The only thing I am rather confident of is that the Falcons will end up trading their 2021 1st round pick (or more) for either additional 2020 picks or a better 2020 pick.

TD and Quinn cannot afford to have a bad 2020 season and need ready-to-play players this year from the draft.

Note they have already dumped their 5th and 6th picks this year (picks usually that end up on practice squad) and acquired an extra 4th.  They also are not relying on rookies for their starter holes, hence they have acquired an experienced TE, RB and DE through FA rather than depending on a draft pick to be a starter.

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2 minutes ago, g-dawg said:

Dimitroff would have been better off calling in sick to that draft and letting a monkey throw darts at a board to pick players in 2012.

Yep, the 2012 draft was Dimitroff's weakest by far:

Round 2 (55): Peter Konz, C, Wisconsin

Round 3 (91)(from Baltimore): Lamar Holmes, OT, Southern Miss

Round 5 (157): Bradie Ewing, FB, Wisconsin

Round 5 (164)(from Baltimore): Jonathan Massaquoi, DE, Troy

Round 6 (192): Charles Mitchell, S, Mississippi State

Round 7 (249): Travian Robertson, DT, South Carolina

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35 minutes ago, theProf said:

Yep, the 2012 draft was Dimitroff's weakest by far:

Round 2 (55): Peter Konz, C, Wisconsin

Round 3 (91)(from Baltimore): Lamar Holmes, OT, Southern Miss

Round 5 (157): Bradie Ewing, FB, Wisconsin

Round 5 (164)(from Baltimore): Jonathan Massaquoi, DE, Troy

Round 6 (192): Charles Mitchell, S, Mississippi State

Round 7 (249): Travian Robertson, DT, South Carolina

OMG that's burning my eyes

 :flush:

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Please no trade ups. We aren't one player away. And currently have two linebackers. Trade down, grab K9 and use the additional pick to draft Jaylon Johnson. 

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10 minutes ago, Hurry_Up_And_Buy said:

Ironic that the LT drafted right after him to Houston both played better and lasted longer... I forget his name tho

Duane Brown from VT. He ended up better due to  being healthier, but started slower. IMO Bakers only downfall was injuries. But he had these problems when he was at USC too, and RD rolled the dice. Had he stayed healthy he would have been a solid 10+ year player for us.

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1 hour ago, theProf said:

Yep, the Falcons moved down seven picks in the 3rd-round to get Puddin, then they selected Jonathon Massequoi with the added 5th-round pick from that trade-down.

A frustrating few years our drafts were to say the least that period was... Yeesh

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1 hour ago, theProf said:

Yep, the 2012 draft was Dimitroff's weakest by far:

Round 2 (55): Peter Konz, C, Wisconsin

Round 3 (91)(from Baltimore): Lamar Holmes, OT, Southern Miss

Round 5 (157): Bradie Ewing, FB, Wisconsin

Round 5 (164)(from Baltimore): Jonathan Massaquoi, DE, Troy

Round 6 (192): Charles Mitchell, S, Mississippi State

Round 7 (249): Travian Robertson, DT, South Carolina

To bad this draft class was zero help for that 2012 team

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4 hours ago, Dirtier Bird said:

To those that hope the Falcons will win a Super Bowl, we never have.

1966 we finished 3-11 (My Dad told me to give them a few years to build a good team)

1967 we finished 1-12-1 (Dad said maybe next year)

1968 we finished 2-12 (Started to realize Dad wasn't always right)

etc.

A lot can change in 60 years man. I mean I've only been around 30, but I'm sure you've had your fair share of high expectations and subtle or not so subtle let downs.

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32 minutes ago, OrthoPTSD said:

To bad this draft class was zero help for that 2012 team

Actually Konz started 12 games as a rookie including both playoff games and played well as a rookie when between 2 vets in Mclure and Clabo.

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I say trade up and get Derrick Brown! They could sign me to play CB and I’ll have 6 picks if Brown, Jarrett, Fowler Jr, & Takk are rushing the QB!!!

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Although Dimitroff has never traded-down in the first-round, he has been active in trading on draft day. Dimi has made at least one trade on draft day since he's been Atlanta's GM. A specific recap of all these draft-day trades as follows:

2019:  Traded back-up into the first-round to select Kaleb McGary at pick #31 by trading a second-round pick #45, and a third-round pick #79. The Rams also gave Atlanta a sixth-round pick #203 in this trade. With the #203 pick, Atlanta selected Marcus Green, WR/RB/Returner, who did not make the 2019 Falcons team.

 

The remainder of these draft day trades from a decent article by Ledbetter as follows:

"A look at Dimitroff’s draft-day trading record 

When the Falcons are on the clock, you have to keep your head on a draft-day swivel.

 

But there’s going to be a trade.

Here’s a look at Dimitroff’s draft-day trades over the years.

2018: The Falcons traded with the Rams to move up to get a sixth-round pick No. 194 (Russell Gage) and gave up two seventh-round picks, 244 (Justin Lawler, DE, SMU) and 256 (traded to Redskins).  

2017: The Falcons traded up with Seattle to get the 26th pick overall (Takkarist McKinley) and gave up the 31st pick (traded to 49ers), third round No. 95 (Delano Hill, S, Michigan), seventh round No. 249 (Chris Carson, RB, Oklahoma State, Parkview High). The Falcons traded down with the Buffalo Bills, dealing their No. 63 overall pick (Deion Dawkins, G, Temple) for Buffalo’s No. 75 (Duke Riley, LB, LSU), No. 149 (Damontae Kazee, CB, San Diego State) and No. 156 picks (Brian Hill, RB, Wyoming). 

2016: The Falcons traded back into the second round with the Texans. The moved from 50 to 52 (Deion Jones) and picked up a sixth-round pick (195th), which turned into Wes Schweitzer. The Texans took offensive lineman Nick Martin with the 50th pick. The Falcons gave up their sixth-round pick to Tennessee as part of the Andy Levitre trade. 

2015: The Falcons traded up nine spots to land defensive tackle Grady Jarrett in the fifth round with the 137th overall pick. They traded with the Minnesota Vikings and gave up their fifth-round pick (146) and sixth-round pick (185). The Vikings used the 146th pick to select wide receiver Stefon Diggs and the 185rh pick to select Oklahoma tackle Tyrus Thompson. Diggs made the PFWA All-Rookie team.

2014: The Falcons traded their sixth-round pick (182 overall) and one of their three seventh-round picks (220) for the Vikings’ fifth-round pick (168). They selected Syracuse linebacker Marquis Spruill with the pick.

2013: The Falcons traded from 30 to 22 in the first round to land cornerback Desmond Trufant. The Falcons traded with the St. Louis Rams They gave up a third- and a sixth-round pick. In the fifth round, the Falcons traded up 10 picks to get TCU defensive end Stansly Maponga. They sent a seventh-round pick (236) to the Chicago Bears.pick

2012: The Falcons made a trade with Baltimore to move down seven spots in the third round to take tackle Lamar Holmes. They picked up a fifth-round pick and selected defensive end Jonathan Massaquoi with the 164th overall pick. The Ravens picked up running back Bernard Pierce with the 84th pick, which the Falcons sent them. The Falcons gave up a seventh-rounder (229 overall) to the Eagles in the Asante Samuel trade. The Eagles used that pick to select running back Bryce Brown.

2011: There was the 5-for-1 mega-deal with Cleveland to move up 21 spots to land wide receiver Julio Jones. Later, in the fifth round after the spotlight was off the Falcons, Dimitroff sent two picks to St. Louis to move up 10 spots to scoop up running back Jacquizz Rodgers.

2010: Oklahoma cornerback Dominique Franks, who left school a year early, was slipping in the draft. Dimitroff sent two picks to St. Louis to move up 14 spots to acquire Franks.

2009: Dimitroff felt he could get his guy by going back 13 spots in the fifth round. The Falcons made a deal to send their fifth-round pick to Dallas. They moved back 13 spots and picked up a seventh-round pick for their troubles. They drafted offensive lineman Garrett Reynolds in the fifth and Vance Walker in the seventh.

2008: There was a run on left tackles. With the Falcons needing protection for Matt Ryan, Dimitroff sent two second-round picks and a fourth-round pick to Washington to move back into the first round and pick Sam Baker with the 21st overall pick. They also received third- and fifth-round picks. The Falcons used those picks to select wide receiver Harry Douglas (84th overall) and defensive end Kroy Biermann (154th).

https://www.ajc.com/sports/football/look-dimitroff-draft-day-trading-record/9OdJojY6ypKuajgHPItzdP/

 

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