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Dirtybird3

Do we have a rough estimate of the cap now?

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no june 1sts

we saved about 5 mil for trufant, 3.5mil for freeman, 2.6 mil for stocker and 2 mil think on Sambrailo

 

we were 2 mil under so we have 11 mil or so right now. Save 4mil for rookies so 7mil for free agency.

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16 minutes ago, Dirtybird3 said:

So all that and we sit and just over 9mil?? 

If they did not designate any as post-6/1, they get to eat most of the dead money this year instead of limiting next years cap room due l rolling dead money in June and it allows them to sign players from UFA; IF they choose to, with BACK loaded contracts despite the relatively small cap space atm.

Carp, Tru or Free are all best post-6/1 candidates. Carp still on roster atm.

1) Top 51 contracts in effect at start of league year.

2) Means, Davison, and Smith alone eat $4M+ of the available space prior to UFA.

3) The one downside to the CBA is all vet minimum salaries growing; so top 51 and overall cap space is more limited...effectively curbing some of current year gains.

^Falcons can realistically still land a relatively big move; for themselves I’m not saying we are about to go for Clowney $20M+ per year average but more like Quinn or Griffen on a 3 years deal with manageable year 1 + closer to $15M average but more guaranteed or upfront cash...gives time to figure out future of DE but provides a clear upgrade to Beasley...leaving SLB and DB moves rest of FA and draft...

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5 minutes ago, Schwarzwald said:

If they did not designate any as post-6/1, they get to eat most of the dead money this year instead of limiting next years cap room due l rolling dead money in June and it allows them to sign players from UFA; IF they choose to, with BACK loaded contracts despite the relatively small cap space atm.

Carp, Tru or Free are all best post-6/1 candidates. Carp still on roster atm.

1) Top 51 contracts in effect at start of league year.

2) Means, Davison, and Smith alone eat $4M+ of the available space prior to UFA.

3) The one downside to the CBA is all vet minimum salaries growing; so top 51 and overall cap space is more limited...effectively curbing some of current year gains.

^Falcons can realistically still land a relatively big move; for themselves I’m not saying we are about to go for Clowney $20M+ per year average but more like Quinn or Griffen on a 3 years deal with manageable year 1 + closer to $15M average but more guaranteed or upfront cash...gives time to figure out future of DE but provides a clear upgrade to Beasley...leaving SLB and DB moves rest of FA and draft...

How many post June 1st cuts do we get tho? And not tryna be snarky, but again with all that we still don't even have 10 mil in cap? 

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8 minutes ago, Dirtybird3 said:

How many post June 1st cuts do we get tho? And not tryna be snarky, but again with all that we still don't even have 10 mil in cap? 

Up to 2. 

And no, I don’t know the exact cap number myself. Sometimes it comes out later if someone is a post-6/1 designation but that Lim it’s any immediate gains.

As stated, dead money ate all at once (if not 6/1’d) across all contracts; mainly Tru and Free, means less gains this year but you get some now instead of waiting until June

+ add that to the vet minimum salaries going up and the additions we have made? Negates those gains a bit.

Falcons can still:

Gain a significant amount ($5M+ for example) by extending Mack a year or two.

Re-structure Julio/Jake etc if needing more straight up cap space this year.

But again, it’s possible to back load on a big signing because the space gains next year are through the roof with new CBA + eating the dead money now.

tl;dr: The cap space available mainly limits 1 year contracts(such as franchise tags due to single year hit) and not necessarily long term contracts that can be structured around a low current year space; over-simplified.

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52 minutes ago, ⚡Slumerican⚡ said:

Idk if we have enough players atm to even field a roster.. Looks like we'll be playing alot of rookies and udfa's in 2020

And that's my point, yes we cleared some dead weight, but considering the cap freed up we created more holes in the short term. We can't keep waiting for the next year, julio ain't getting no younger 

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35 minutes ago, Dirtybird3 said:

And that's my point, yes we clearly d some dead weight, but considering the cap freed up we created more holes in the short term. We can't keep waiting for the next year, julio ain't getting no younger 

Ryan isnt either, we may become world beaters with a no name roster this season.. But odds are not in our favor.. 

Truth be known, this is looking like the end of the line for Quinn imo

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