kiwifalcon Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Turned me off if you want that look like Tarzan play like Jane type player that’s an inkling I get when I see this guy playing. For me he’s like a light switch fully turned on or turned off. Personally I’d pass. Ovie_Lover, Charles Wright, Falcon from E and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cole World Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Not a fan. He gives me JA98 vibes. PokerSteve, Romfal, papachaz and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerSteve Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Agree with you, but of course you just never know how a player will turn out. He is supposed to have a very high ceiling. Being compared to JPP in terms of his potential, but I haven't been able to get hyped about him much either. Cole World and Atl Falcon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiruz Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Reminds me of that dolphins player we had Shelby Mustang. Great for the run game, but disappointing when rushing the passer. I'd rather have Epenesa or Okwara. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted March 7, 2020 Author Share Posted March 7, 2020 I’ll say it now outside of Young this DE class blows chunks. I’d rather invest all our resourcing somewhere else on the defense and just stop gap DE in FA with guys like Means Clayborn and Irvin types and live with Takk Larkin and Tuioti Mariner. Add talent at DB LBer or IDL but DE nope **** nooo it’s garbage. blkbigdog35, Francis York Morgan and Cole World 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconofShadows Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 I think he will be a good run stuffing LDE but I dont see more the a 6 sack a year from him as a pass rusher. Not a 1st round pick players but he wont be trash in the league PokerSteve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis York Morgan Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 45 minutes ago, kiwifalcon said: I’ll say it now outside of Young this DE class blows chunks. I’d rather invest all our resourcing somewhere else on the defense and just stop gap DE in FA with guys like Means Clayborn and Irvin types and live with Takk Larkin and Tuioti Mariner. Add talent at DB LBer or IDL but DE nope **** nooo it’s garbage. I like a few guys in specific roles - Strowbridge as an inside and out guy, Coe as a big 5-tech, Uche as a strong side LB and nickel DE, ditto Chaisson, Highsmith as a developmental pass rusher, Epenesa in the 2nd as a high floor guy with tools, Darrell Taylor in the 3rd or 4th as a guy with developmental potential...but yeah. This class really doesn't have much in the way of top end talent. Ergo Proxy, PokerSteve, Artys Arryn and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GATXBOI Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Been doing mock all day and I think if Chaisson Brown or Kinlaw is gone, then we should just take Swift at 16 and our draft should be smooth to fill defense picks and get mack replacement without reaching.. I think it would be good to have a running back on a 5th yr option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovie_Lover Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Osiruz said: Reminds me of that dolphins player we had Shelby Mustang. Great for the run game, but disappointing when rushing the passer. I'd rather have Epenesa or Okwara. Yeah that was his game. If you ever expected more idk why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtldirtybird Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 22 minutes ago, GATXBOI said: Been doing mock all day and I think if Chaisson Brown or Kinlaw is gone, then we should just take Swift at 16 and our draft should be smooth to fill defense picks and get mack replacement without reaching.. I think it would be good to have a running back on a 5th yr option I rather take Gallimore or a CB papachaz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 We shall see. One guys view. every edge guy outside of Young is gonna have some doubters for sure. Charles Wright, Refried Beans, Francis York Morgan and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artys Arryn Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 As rough as Epenesa's combine was I'd still rather have him over YGM. Ultimately though, I'm currently on the Kinlaw or Murray in the first. Would also be fine with Henderson, Blacklock, Chaisson as a LB, or Gallimore. If we somehow get Epenesa in the 2nd, I'd be stoked though. Ergo Proxy, GATXBOI and FA91 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiruz Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Ovie_Lover said: Yeah that was his game. If you ever expected more idk why. DQ and TATF hyped him up as the next big thing...turned out to be a polished turd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovie_Lover Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 13 minutes ago, Osiruz said: DQ and TATF hyped him up as the next big thing...turned out to be a polished turd. No dq didn't. He was a run stopper and got paid like it. Dukeduke211 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckhoa Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 After watching his game tape vs Ohio State.....I would be comfortable with taking him. 1989Fan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiruz Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Ovie_Lover said: No dq didn't. He was a run stopper and got paid like it. DQ said he has pass rush ability to him, and everyone here was hoping he'd be their pass rush hero using his Miami stats and stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherdome Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 4 hours ago, kiwifalcon said: I’ll say it now outside of Young this DE class blows chunks. I’d rather invest all our resourcing somewhere else on the defense and just stop gap DE in FA with guys like Means Clayborn and Irvin types and live with Takk Larkin and Tuioti Mariner. Add talent at DB LBer or IDL but DE nope **** nooo it’s garbage. Like every year, take what the draft offers. Don't buy into hype and judge every prospect with respect to every prospect from every year. This is not the year of DE's but it is the year of OT's, RB's, DT's and WR's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovie_Lover Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 33 minutes ago, Osiruz said: DQ said he has pass rush ability to him, and everyone here was hoping he'd be their pass rush hero using his Miami stats and stuff. The dude had a 3 sack season, what stats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiruz Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, Ovie_Lover said: The dude had a 3 sack season, what stats? Pressure rate, and how he wasnt frequently used as a pass rusher, but was coming on...the usual bs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The O.D.B Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 4 hours ago, Francis York Morgan said: I like a few guys in specific roles - Strowbridge as an inside and out guy, Coe as a big 5-tech, Uche as a strong side LB and nickel DE, ditto Chaisson, Highsmith as a developmental pass rusher, Epenesa in the 2nd as a high floor guy with tools, Darrell Taylor in the 3rd or 4th as a guy with developmental potential...but yeah. This class really doesn't have much in the way of top end talent. What's your take on Grenard and Weaver. I like these two and Taylor as the guys with the biggest upside in this draft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HASHBROWN3 Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 I guess I’m an idiot because I like him & his upside. but please carry on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis York Morgan Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, The O.D.B said: What's your take on Grenard and Weaver. I like these two and Taylor as the guys with the biggest upside in this draft? Greenard is a 4th round guy being treated like a 2nd round guy and Weaver is stiff as a brick. Depends when they go but since both are mocked in the 2nd and I don't think there's value taking em there, I've only watched enough to make an opinion. Just not interested. But if we took them later I'd watch more to see what they could bring/develop. I like Greenard just a little more. 4 minutes ago, HASHBROWN3 said: I guess I’m an idiot because I like him & his upside. but please carry on... He has athletic upside. What he doesn't have (imho) is dog. He isn't mean. The O.D.B 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The O.D.B Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Francis York Morgan said: Greenard is a 4th round guy being treated like a 2nd round guy and Weaver is stiff as a brick. Depends when they go but since both are mocked in the 2nd and I don't think there's value taking em there, I've only watched enough to make an opinion. Just not interested. But if we took them later I'd watch more to see what they could bring/develop. I like Greenard just a little more. He has athletic upside. What he doesn't have (imho) is dog. He isn't mean. Here's what I saw/or like about them. Weaver - yep stiff, also not a ton of pass rush moves. The place where he makes up for it is his closing speed. When he gets off a block and sees and window to the ball, he's covered that ground before the player holding the ball can blink. Taylor - You really have to pay attention to what down it is when watching his vids. If you do you'll notice eye popping get-off and a high level of pressure on the QB very consistently on 3rd down and when down/distance allow him to go all in. Grenard - best all around physical tools/physique for the position. Needs a lot of training but he really looks like a guy who could put it together. TNFalcon1 and Francis York Morgan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HASHBROWN3 Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Francis York Morgan said: Greenard is a 4th round guy being treated like a 2nd round guy and Weaver is stiff as a brick. Depends when they go but since both are mocked in the 2nd and I don't think there's value taking em there, I've only watched enough to make an opinion. Just not interested. But if we took them later I'd watch more to see what they could bring/develop. I like Greenard just a little more. He has athletic upside. What he doesn't have (imho) is dog. He isn't mean. I wouldn’t go judging the mans heart brother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis York Morgan Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 1 hour ago, HASHBROWN3 said: I wouldn’t go judging the mans heart brother. I'm just saying he doesn't play mean. Vic doesn't play mean either but dude has a good heart. It's not like I'm saying he's lazy, he isn't. kschreck and HASHBROWN3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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